Child Safety Bill Could Cripple Anime Industry

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Requx

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Well lolicons gone wich imo is fantastic....but come on Berserk that shouldnt be classified AND WHAT ABOUT ELFEN LIED...that was an awesome anime. They totally blew someting good out of porportion to make it bad.
 

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FredTheUndead said:
Trivun said:
For example, the anime of Fate/stay Night doesn't have any of the sex scenes or anything like that, that were in the original games the series was based on. Yet because the games do have such scenes in them (not even anything really bad or explicit, either), they could be reclassified, and by association the relatively safe-for-work anime could potentially be affected and reclassified too, causing more problems further down the line.
I would call the part where Sakura and Shirou fuck like animals for three nights in a row, or Rin and Shirou going to down on Saber fairly explicit.
Hmmmm, okay, I'll give you that one. The rest of my point still stands, though :p. And after all, I've seen worse than that in both anime and video games (don't ask...).
 

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cthulhumythos said:
the anti-homosexuality was the only thing to make me think "that's a little close-minded" but that's 'cause i live in Massachusetts.
BTW the term is "closed-minded." I know everyone on the Internet writes it "close-minded" (like, pretty much literally everyone), but they're all wrong.
 

Soviet Heavy

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I'm not against anime, but I am gonna enjoy watching the weeaboos work themselves into a frenzy.
 

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Trivun said:
FredTheUndead said:
Trivun said:
For example, the anime of Fate/stay Night doesn't have any of the sex scenes or anything like that, that were in the original games the series was based on. Yet because the games do have such scenes in them (not even anything really bad or explicit, either), they could be reclassified, and by association the relatively safe-for-work anime could potentially be affected and reclassified too, causing more problems further down the line.
I would call the part where Sakura and Shirou fuck like animals for three nights in a row, or Rin and Shirou going to down on Saber fairly explicit.
Hmmmm, okay, I'll give you that one. The rest of my point still stands, though :p. And after all, I've seen worse than that in both anime and media (don't ask...).
Oh so have I don't get me wrong. The average Nitro+ game alone has about 12 times the nightmarish violence than Nasu could come up with (although with less first person descriptions of being devoured). I'm just saying.
 

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Steve the Pocket said:
cthulhumythos said:
the anti-homosexuality was the only thing to make me think "that's a little close-minded" but that's 'cause i live in Massachusetts.
BTW the term is "closed-minded." I know everyone on the Internet writes it "close-minded" (like, pretty much literally everyone), but they're all wrong.
oh. that makes sense now that i think about it, as the opposite phrase is "open-minded" and not"far apart-minded".
 

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What would Japanese anime and manga be without the immeasurable levels of fanservice and violence?
Pokemon and things like it.

If anyone whos reading this can speak coherent Japanese and is an manga-anime fan I would go vouch support against that bill on Japanese sites while theres still time.

vortexgods said:
When Germany fell to the Nazi's there was a brain drain of artists who created "degenerate" art or who were Jewish to the United States.

I hear Hawaii is lovely this time of year.
America (specifically Marvel and DC comics) did it before the Nazis thought of it.

And yes Hawaii is lovely, but I've played it stupid safe and moved to Egypt for the winter holidays.
 

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Has anybody other than me considered that kids just aren't worth it? They're going to have to find out eventually, and the more you shelter them the more difficult it will be to explain to them later on.
 

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kikon9 said:
Has anybody other than me considered that kids just aren't worth it? They're going to have to find out eventually, and the more you shelter them the more difficult it will be to explain to them later on.
I believe it, but i also believe the bill will extend to something worse than itself
 

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I'm so sick of governments jumping the gun and attacking things they just don't understand. It's insane, just a touch more research before jumping in with your stamps of disapproval for media that non of these people have even glanced over.
 

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Jarrid said:
Golem239 said:
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The major publishers in the "Big 10" including media giant boycott the Tokyo Anime Fair [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadokawa_Shoten] (link NSFW)
anyone else find this just weird it just seems off I mean looking at some of the stuff they produced you think they would be hurt by this bill (even though manga would get hit harder than anime but still)
That's kind of the point. The bill would enable the Tokyo gov't to label anything they don't like as "harmful to minors." This isn't a fight over smut, it's about censorship.
hmmm...oh wait mis-read hehe sorry guys for that that was embarrassing
 

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So... they're trying to kill one of the biggest cultural exports?

I'm not a fan of anime or manga but even I think this is downright absurd if it can "cripple" an industry.
 

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dancinginfernal said:
I'm getting tired of the Government trying to do parents' jobs for them.

Parents need to start taking responsibility, and stop blaming the media, tv, video games, etc. for their failures.
100% agree, its not the governments job to raise kids(thats what parents are for)
 

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Golem239 said:
Jarrid said:
Golem239 said:
John Funk said:
The major publishers in the "Big 10" including media giant boycott the Tokyo Anime Fair [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadokawa_Shoten] (link NSFW)
anyone else find this just weird it just seems off I mean looking at some of the stuff they produced you think they would be hurt by this bill (even though manga would get hit harder than anime but still)
That's kind of the point. The bill would enable the Tokyo gov't to label anything they don't like as "harmful to minors." This isn't a fight over smut, it's about censorship.
hmmm...oh wait mis-read hehe sorry guys for that that was embarrassing
Its probably worth mentioning that there has been international pressure about this sort of thing scince japanese rape games and various flavors of NSFC doujins and anime started to filter out of japan via the internet.
 

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Stabby Joe said:
So... they're trying to kill one of the biggest cultural exports?

I'm not a fan of anime or manga but even I think this is downright absurd if it can "cripple" an industry.
Their largest exports are cars and electronics. This won't phase their economy in the slightest.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Stabby Joe said:
So... they're trying to kill one of the biggest cultural exports?

I'm not a fan of anime or manga but even I think this is downright absurd if it can "cripple" an industry.
Their largest exports are cars and electronics. This won't phase their economy in the slightest.
I would suggest you re-read that post and try again. the Anime industry is definitely one of Japan's largest cultural exports.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Stabby Joe said:
So... they're trying to kill one of the biggest cultural exports?

I'm not a fan of anime or manga but even I think this is downright absurd if it can "cripple" an industry.
Their largest exports are cars and electronics. This won't phase their economy in the slightest.
Do note a small, ignored problem will become a worse one and if found out, it will be at the stage that it doesn't be solved anymore

Whats the worse case scenario if this bill has passed aside from those mention in the article?
 

TheRealCJ

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Wow, I'm seeing a lot of ignorant outrage over this.

"OH NOES, NOW how will I get my fix of ultraviolent Manga and weird fetish Anime?! Nanny state think of the childrens personal freedoms rargh"

You don't like how the government is running things? Protest!Oh wait, you probably don't live in japan and so protesting their government to change a law is both stupid and pointless.
 

Stabby Joe

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Soviet Heavy said:
Stabby Joe said:
So... they're trying to kill one of the biggest cultural exports?

I'm not a fan of anime or manga but even I think this is downright absurd if it can "cripple" an industry.
Their largest exports are cars and electronics. This won't phase their economy in the slightest.
CULTURAL export. Their cars and electronics look and function like other nations'. This however is distinctly Japanese, it's an image.