This is the part where I bring up your previous comment about pregnant women drinking at home. How do you stop kids form stealing their parent alcohol when they are not looking?Hazy992 said:
Cigarettes should be illegal.
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The government is not an omnipotent force. If the government tries to get that involved with people's lives, people will get pissed, revolt, and cause all the problems therein.
The government has no moral right to get on it's high horse on this issue either. The government does have a duty to help it's people, but only if those people are willing to help themselves. This is why prohibition has never, and will never work. If anything, you will make it a "forbidden fruit" and INCREASE it's popularity, like the U.S.A. did in the 1920s.
But I guess learning from mistakes is overrated, why don't we just repeat them and watch the cycle start all over again?
The government has no moral right to get on it's high horse on this issue either. The government does have a duty to help it's people, but only if those people are willing to help themselves. This is why prohibition has never, and will never work. If anything, you will make it a "forbidden fruit" and INCREASE it's popularity, like the U.S.A. did in the 1920s.
But I guess learning from mistakes is overrated, why don't we just repeat them and watch the cycle start all over again?
Eh, people want to smoke cigarettes that's their business.
And weed isn't without its own harmful qualities; neither is booze, and booze is much more harmful than cigarettes and yet that's legal.
If you don't like cigarettes, it's easy enough to avoid. Just stay away from people while they're smoking.
And weed isn't without its own harmful qualities; neither is booze, and booze is much more harmful than cigarettes and yet that's legal.
If you don't like cigarettes, it's easy enough to avoid. Just stay away from people while they're smoking.
No. We have enough goddamn nannying going on with government. I don't smoke, I don't give a fuck if other smoke. The laws in place now are strict enough (too strict in my opinion) and we don;t need ot give the government more control and to waste money with trying to enforce this.Link55 said:
THANK YOU! People need to stop using emotion as a guideline and go back to logic. Every second of every day someone is doing things they should not: there is no stopping it.TheYellowCellPhone said:
Did you know a town just banned cussing? With no word list or anything, just allowing officers to discern what they think is bad. I could've sworn we had these Amendment things on some piece of parchment. Now soda is in talks of being limited in NYC. Prohibition has never worked and social engineering does not either. Stop being concerned about anothers actions and amplify your own happiness on account of the ideal. Laws exist to deter crime, not stop it. Behavior is inevitable...and that is a very good, and bad, thing.
I don't do either tobacco or weed, but at least someone can have a few cigarettes and still be pleasant to talk to.
When I hear people throwing around the word "natural" and misusing chemical, I want to just want to chuck my computer out a window.Link55 said:
Chemicals is matter that has a chemical composition, water is a god damn chemical.
And just because something is found naturally in the world and not composed in a lab doesn't make it magically better for you. Hell go take the natural form of asprin, have fun with those stomach ulcers.
Hell, many drugs that have origins from plants and whatnot are refined in a lab, and are better for you when compared to the "natural" form. It's because scientists know wtf they're doing.
Oh and here's a big hint, the "chemicals" in cigarettes are found in nature too, carbon monoxide, ammonia, acetone, butane...etc are all "natural" compounds.
sigh... so wrong...Link55 said:
Cigarettes are acctually more natural then Weed, as the cigarette only has tobacco grown from diffrent places in their mixtures while most forms of marijuanna has several diffrent plants or chemicals mixed into it to give it a diffrent flavor or provide a diffrent/deeper high.
As to helping.
Weed doesn't help.
it causes brain damage. While the depth and severity of this brain damage is largely arguable, the fact remains that THC harms brain cells and causes a noticably suggnificant change in mood, emotions, and cognative capability.
Cigarettes on the other hand do acctually provide some advantages as it is a stimulant.
A person drinking is more likely to make poor decisions. Such as getting into a car. Which can then hit someone. And kill them. Or severely injure them. Cause destruction of property when they run it into a building.Riki Darnell said:
And on the topic of second hand smoke, considering that most places ban smoking and you can only do it outside or in your own home now, it's fairly easy to just like... move away from the smoker. Although it is pretty shitty for children who have to live with smokers.
Swear words before 9 are also less harmful than cigarettes, but that doesn't mean they should be banned. Weed isn't traditional, cigarettes are. Millions of people smoke cigarettes, masses of money come in from cigarettes in the forms of tax on the product, tax on the company and income tax. Not only would the government lose out on all that cash, thousands upon thousands of people would lose their jobs in a time where there aren't enough jobs to go around already.Link55 said:
Jumping off cliffs is pretty harmful, and messy, but it isn't banned. Just because cigarettes cause health problems doesn't make them evil or mean that people shouldn't be allowed to smoke them.
Implying that cigarettes aren't natural?Link55 said:
Let me introduce you to the tobacco plant.
I don't care, frankly. People can kill themselves in whatever way they wish, who am I to tell them it's illegal to damage their own health? Y'know, suicide isn't illegal either? Maybe we should make that illegal too. It's damaging your own health after all.
99% of people I know, smoke weed in combination with tobacco, probably different in other countries but the argument is pretty much invalid. And yes alcohol kills more people even though cigarettes are are always harmful.. bla bla bla.
You know what the real point is, government can't afford to ban cigarettes, they depend too much on the taxes gained from them. Seriously it would create a huge gap in their finances plus another criminal circuit which law enforcers must adress.
You know what the real point is, government can't afford to ban cigarettes, they depend too much on the taxes gained from them. Seriously it would create a huge gap in their finances plus another criminal circuit which law enforcers must adress.
It used to be illegal. Attempted suicide was punishable. I'm not sure if it still is... I think at that point, though they make you take counciling, now. It's definitely illegal to help someone off themselves.Elate said:Implying that cigarettes aren't natural?Link55 said:
Let me introduce you to the tobacco plant.
I don't care, frankly. People can kill themselves in whatever way they wish, who am I to tell them it's illegal to damage their own health? Y'know, suicide isn't illegal either? Maybe we should make that illegal too. It's damaging your own health after all.