Echo3Delta said:
Normally, I'd dismiss you as useless, but I'm feeling confrontational so I'll bite.
This is a prime example of a pretty intriguing trend I've noticed among liberals/hippies/16-year-old internet users: the need to lower us men to the status of animals. Your absolute crippling dread of accepting any responsibility for your actions is such that you hide behind the manufactured excuse that we are not above our animal instincts. I can see how this is a comforting way to look at the world. The absence of right and wrong brings with it the absence of consequence. And if you yearn for purpose, you can take up environmentalism and drum yourself into a fever of self-righteousness and hatred for mankind (from which stems these nasty little rules of society that you so fear).
1. I am none of the three things you listed (way to take your own advice and not make generalisations!)
2. It's not a need to lower us to animals, it's simply a fact that we are animals and have animal instincts-if this is something you disagree with then you really don't have any ground to stand on.
3. I am very responsible, I've no need to proove this to you. How is my "manufactured excuse" any more manufactured than your manufactured ideals and beliefs?
4. I despise filthy hippies and things like PETA. My purpose in life is to enjoy myself as much as I can without being a total dick, and I'm doing alright.
5. I don't have any fear of societies rules and I abide by them, and if I come off as hating mankind it has nothing to do with the environment-though I dont recall saying I hated mankind-it has more to do with most people being out for their own gains.
Echo3Delta said:
Unfortunately, this being the real world where actions have consequences, and us being forced to live with people such as you, I'm compelled to set you straight.
You and Alex both seem to agree that worrying about sex is evidence of some abnormal insecurity. I can't believe I'm explaining this to (presumably) grown men, but CONDOMS DON'T WORK. A little fun fact: I'm a U.S. Marine. Normally I wouldn't advertise that, but that gives you an idea of the kind of people I hang out with, and boy do I hear some stories. I know a guy who's had a hard probe shoved up his dick, because he was scared to death of STDs after a drunken one-night-stand and made the mistake of going to the free clinic to get tested. I know a guy who's had an unplanned daughter that he was not ready for. He was wearing a condom. She was on birth control. Now he's on active duty, cause he couldn't support his new family being only a reservist. And I myself was an unplanned child. Being raised by a single mom for 18 years, never once meeting my dad, and constantly flirting with the poverty line have taught me (would you believe it?) that sex is something to be taken seriously.
You children (I don't care if you're 35 - your views are those of adolescents) are everything that's wrong with America, and I tire of your company.
6. I am already straight.
7. Condoms work in almost all cases. 98% I think is about right, and I'm sure the 2% has a fair portion of idiots adding to it (using expired condoms etc.). 98% is not a small percentage. This small chance should not stop you enjoying yourself. I truely believe that if you are afraid of sex WITH a condom, then you have an irrational fear. Of that 2% of condoms that do not work you also must take into account that unless you only screw scummy women, STD's are not a huge risk anyhow-though I always use a condom anyway.
8. First example chose to get a stick put up his urethra because he had a great fear of STD's; He chose to get this done, could he not have had a blood test for a few bucks more? In fact, this should be more advice to you-avoid the god damn penal probe by not worrying irrationally about STD's when you have worn a condom....
9. If your friend was not ready for a daughter perhaps he should have invested in an abortion, and if he believes that they are wrong, also drop his silly sense of morals. I struggle to believe his little guys managed to make it through two very safe forms of birth control, but in any event it sounds like they didn't want a baby and they are fucking idiots for having it when they couldn't support it.
10. Sex doesn't mean you are poor. My parents also split up and my mum took custody of me-sex didnt do it, my parents not being in love did it-theres your problem, not sex.
Now, thanks for an interesting rant and lecture, but what you said doesn't apply to me at all. I live in the real world, where most people aren't afraid of sex, and they all do it regularly and for the most part without consequence. I'm not saying all young girls should go out and have sex to be normal, but I don't believe it is something to be scared of and it is an irrational fear. Just like fear of bungie jumping unless a freak accident occurs no adverse effects with become of it, and unlike bungie jumping-abortion and medication is always an option.