Classic film moments ruined by logic

[matrix3509]

Lightsabers...

Dammit, why do those beams of light not just pass THROUGH each other?

Sorry I can't resist. Nerd-mode activated:

Lightsabre beams are of essentially the same composition as blasterbolt. That is, plasma. The difference is how the sabre beam is actually tied to a power source continually, and as such will immedialy die when the power is cut.

[Disengaging Nerd-mode]

But unless the plasma is contained, as it is a higher form of matter than gas, it would either dissipate into the surrounding area, or continue on forever. Also, the intense heat needed to create plasma would fry anything within a huge radius.

Blasterbolts are more logical, however.

The plasma in a sabre beam wouldn't dissapate because as I said, it is forever linked to the power source in the hilt. Thats why, when a sabre is destroyed (by , say, another sabre) it doesn't explode and kill everything. Even if you don't believe that, I can always say that its constrained by some magic apparatus the keeps the heat at bay while still being able to have the energy to cut into things, which would violate every law of thermodynamics.

Even blasterbolts are pretty amazing though. From the gas, its energized into plasma, then turned into a coherent beam that actually has momentum, all in the space of a few milliseconds after the trigger is pulled.

EDIT: I would mostly guess, though its never covered in anything, that throughout the 25,000 some odd years of the Jedi's existance, they have found a super effecient way for converting and storing plasma, such that none of the energy is lost through heat dissapation.

 

[TheTygerfire]

Like how Eagle Eye had such a godawfully complicated plot to deliver a bomb into the Capitol Building when the computer could have just hijacked a jet and blew the place up.

Actually I heard that the White House and other buildings were plane proof, and had reinforced walls that could lessen the impact from a plane. Or maybe that was all BS, not sure.

 

[psijac]

Absolute Power

One of my favorite Clint Eastwood movies. Sadly the existence of Viagra destroys the entire premise. Although the book was written before the stuff come out

 

[Pseudonym2]

No one was standing near Charles Foster Kane when he died. No one could have heard him say "Rosebud" either time.

In Casablanca,

Spoiler

they don't use the tickets they spent the whole movie worrying about

 

[Raven28256]

Like how Eagle Eye had such a godawfully complicated plot to deliver a bomb into the Capitol Building when the computer could have just hijacked a jet and blew the place up.

This. So many spy movies and similar such thrillers have such convoluted, overly complicated plots and schemes to do something that COULD be done in a much simpler manner, given the resources at hand. The computer in Eagle Eye is shown to be capable of doing almost ANYTHING...Why go through all that crap to assassinate the President? It seems that the writers realized this halfway through the film and thought "Well, the computer needs that guy because his brother put some sort of lock on it!" ...Why? The computer seemed more than capable of doing just about anything without his help...

I mean come on, if the computer can simultaneously call everyone in a crowded train or steal all these top secret technologies and get them shipped to wherever it wants and all these other absurd, over the top things...Why not just hijack a plane and crash it into the White House like you said? Hell, couldn't it just hijack Air Force One and crash it into the ground while the President is on it? It is shown doing everything from controlling cars to hijacking MQ-9 Reaper UAVs...The computer could do practically EVERYTHING in that movie! And yet...It somehow thinks the best option is this overly complex, utterly contrived plot.

 

[theultimateend]

One of the curses of being an overthinking is finding yourself watching a movie and suddenly thinking 'yes, this is an awesome sounding space battle but space is a vacuum there shouldn't be any noise at all' or watching the Bourne Identity and thinking 'the assassin in Paris killed the landlady in the lobby so he obviously came in that way, so why did he go to the trouble of swinging through a window with a machine gun?'

Basically what I'm trying to ask in a rambling way is do you end up sabotaging films for yourself too? if so what moments have been ruined?

Try not to confuse logic with breaking laws of physics. (in reference to your space comment I 'think' your bourne point is spot on)

Logically you can explain anything that isn't a contradiction. For instance you can create a logically sound argument that says you can jump to the moon, you couldn't however say that you can jump to the moon and not jump to the moon.

Logically any movie can justify its more wild incidents by simply establishing that the physical laws of the universe it is in are different in some manner or another to that of the real world.

Anywho I'm bound to put a foot in my mouth (metaphorically speaking) but I just wanted to point out that logic is kind of like irony. People misuse it tons and tons . Perhaps I did too...who knows...I think I'll go have another otter pop.

Like how Eagle Eye had such a godawfully complicated plot to deliver a bomb into the Capitol Building when the computer could have just hijacked a jet and blew the place up.

Actually I heard that the White House and other buildings were plane proof, and had reinforced walls that could lessen the impact from a plane. Or maybe that was all BS, not sure.

The white house has (AFAIK) manned surface to air missile launchers on the rooftop. If not that they have some sort of anti-aircraft system, I just remember hearing about this multiple tims . Might be complete and utter propaganda but frankly it sounds neat so I figured I'd tell ya.

 

[Epifols]

Anytime someone flies 10 feet in the air from a shotgun. What the hell is that about?! For every action there in an equal and opposite reaction, we learned that in junior high. So if the person can hold the shotgun in their arms, absorbing the counter reaction, why does the equal reaction send the other guy into the air.

And to make it extra stupid, why do they fly up if shot horizontally?

...And for super extra director stupidity, why does the person's body break the glass behind them? Surely not every single shotgun pellet hits their body, some have to go behind to break the glass. (I've never seen them using slugs or sabot rounds)

 

[[Gavo]]

In Superman II, when Superman threw a cellophane "S" at one of the villans. That probably goes under a "WTF" moment, though.

Three words: nuking the fridge.

Not a classic movie to be sure, but that moment pretty much ruined any chance of taking it seriously. The worst part for me was thinking "Well, it's lead-lined, so that might actually..." and then having to pinch myself for giving it more credit than it deserved.

Yeah, my friends and I had a huge argument about that, I argued that even if it was radiation proof and somehow flew away instead of getting disintegrated and had padding inside, he would still die from the blunt trauma. My friend somehow thought that the padded inside would save him. Nonsense.

 

[Rock Avich]

Star Trek.

Because space doesn't work like you think it does.

 

[TLMG]

The extreeeeeeeeeme long shots in Wanted.

They're freakin' impossible. Especially the last one in the movie where the bullet travels past like half the characters in the film.

geez

 

[Curtmiester]

Lightsabers...

Dammit, why do those beams of light not just pass THROUGH each other?

I don't think their actually light. Their more like a laser beam that can only go so far. But I get where your coming from.

 

[Dragon_of_red]

Lightsabers...

Dammit, why do those beams of light not just pass THROUGH each other?

Sorry I can't resist. Nerd-mode activated:

Lightsabre beams are of essentially the same composition as blasterbolt. That is, plasma. The difference is how the sabre beam is actually tied to a power source continually, and as such will immedialy die when the power is cut.

[Disengaging Nerd-mode]

But unless the plasma is contained, as it is a higher form of matter than gas, it would either dissipate into the surrounding area, or continue on forever. Also, the intense heat needed to create plasma would fry anything within a huge radius.

Blasterbolts are more logical, however.

The plasma in a sabre beam wouldn't dissapate because as I said, it is forever linked to the power source in the hilt. Thats why, when a sabre is destroyed (by , say, another sabre) it doesn't explode and kill everything. Even if you don't believe that, I can always say that its constrained by some magic apparatus the keeps the heat at bay while still being able to have the energy to cut into things, which would violate every law of thermodynamics.

Even blasterbolts are pretty amazing though. From the gas, its energized into plasma, then turned into a coherent beam that actually has momentum, all in the space of a few milliseconds after the trigger is pulled.

EDIT: I would mostly guess, though its never covered in anything, that throughout the 25,000 some odd years of the Jedi's existance, they have found a super effecient way for converting and storing plasma, such that none of the energy is lost through heat dissapation.

Dont forget, they do have the force, which should help with the heat reduction...

 

[theultimateend]

Lightsabers...

Dammit, why do those beams of light not just pass THROUGH each other?

I don't think their actually light. Their more like a laser beam that can only go so far. But I get where your coming from.

They are plasma.

You got yourself solids, gases, liquids, and plasma.

Now mind you I don't KNOW how plasma works entirely but as I stated before its more star wars breaking the laws of physics then logic.

 

[matrix3509]

Dont forget, they do have the force, which should help with the heat reduction...

To further the proof of force powered heat reduction, just watch Anakin and Kenobi battling of Mustafar. I know for a fact that being that close to lava would make anyone else burst into flame immediately, which was further evidenced when Anakin acutally did burst into flame when Kenobi incapacitated him. But thats another rant for another day.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Now mind you I don't KNOW how plasma works entirely but as I stated before its more star wars breaking the laws of physics then logic.

Plasma is simple, it's like gas but the electrons have so much energy that they've broke orbit with their nuclei. The really neat thing about this is plasma can easily be contained by a magnetic field.