Classic film moments ruined by logic

[theultimateend]

http://www.cracked.com/article_16625_8-classic-movies-that-got-away-with-gaping-plot-holes.html

Also, The Thing. And Alien. And every sci-fi movie that works on suspense of an unknown terror. Way I see it, it could have attacked all of them within the space of a minute, and yet chooses to play around with them, leading to its own demise. The Thing especially, since it only has to chop itself up to be able to infect them all simultaneously.

Cats do the same thing they play with prey for shits and giggles.

Now mind you I don't KNOW how plasma works entirely but as I stated before its more star wars breaking the laws of physics then logic.

Plasma is simple, it's like gas but the electrons have so much energy that they've broke orbit with their nuclei. The really neat thing about this is plasma can easily be contained by a magnetic field.

Ah had no idea . But yeah I think it falls under physics.

I've been reading lots of Neil DeGrasse Tyson books >_>...forgive me...

Damn good books though.

 

[hippo24]

Every horror film in existence.
I mean really, the horror genera (few exceptions) seems to be based around Impossible situations happening, and the main characters being to dense to comprehend whats going on, or even just run away from the haunted house.

Now one may argue thats the Whole point of "Horror" but I can assure you that the closer a horror film stays to reality, the scarier it is.

 

[theultimateend]

http://www.cracked.com/article_16625_8-classic-movies-that-got-away-with-gaping-plot-holes.html

Also, The Thing. And Alien. And every sci-fi movie that works on suspense of an unknown terror. Way I see it, it could have attacked all of them within the space of a minute, and yet chooses to play around with them, leading to its own demise. The Thing especially, since it only has to chop itself up to be able to infect them all simultaneously.

Cats do the same thing they play with prey for shits and giggles.

We're talking about things slightly more sophisticated than a cat. Besides, The Thing was scared - it was the hunted.

I was more talking about the Aliens from Aliens.

I hardly thing they were more sophisticated than a cat . Unless you take into account genetic advantages and that's not really a cats fault. The only Alien to ever show some sort of "I understand" was that one that was a hybrid-human-alien thing.

 

[R Man]

LoTR, end scene. Also, part of the beginning.

SPOILER LALALALA. *Seriously, if this is actually a spoiler for you, I hope you die in a ditch cold and unloved. KIDDING. Wait, actually I'm not.


When Frodo is whining about needing the ring when he should toss it into the lava, why doesn't Sam just tackle him or something and just throw it in himself?

And when Elrond and that human F*G who wouldn't throw it in the beginning, why doesn't he Elrond just knock the ***** into the fire?

Wait. If I thought too much about LoTR, I would have an implosion from all the little things that could have been done so much better.


Also, why do spies in ANY film keep fitting perfectly into the clothes of people they knocked out? I mean, like with the Stormtroopers in the original star wars! WTF!? (Yes, I know that isn't a spy movie, I'm dumb but not THAT dumb.

Wait..
First of are you suggesting that Elrond should murder Isildor? Wouldn't that like...start a war or something? Isildor was a powerful leader and a great warrior, killing him would not be easy, not to mention morally reprehensible, probably exactly what the ring wants and not to mention... START A FUCKING WAR WITH THE HUMANS!

I'm glad you wern't at Yalta. You probably would have shot Molotov in the face and started World War 3.

And Sam. Sam had just walked across a burning wasteland, and before that a swamp and before that rocks and such, and you expect him to spear tackle his best buddy to a horrific death in molten rock. First of all, he's tired. Second of all Frodo is his friend. Not everybody thinks murder is an appropriate response to a problem.

You've completely missed the point of the ring and the entire story. The point was that powerful people, the kind who decide who lives and dies, were the kind of people the ring could corrupt. Thats the whole reason why hobbits could carry the ring in the first place, because they were modest.

 

[FallenPrism]

Anyone coming into this thread unprepared for spoilers probably deserves what they get, but I've never put a spoiler in a post before, and now is as good a time as any.

Independence Day (ID4):

Spoiler

There's a lot in this film that gets the back of my head going, but there is one bit that actually unlocks the door and lets it all rush out: At the end, when they blow up the city-ship over Area 51...I'm willing to accept that these aliens obviously have some anti-gravity device that lets something that big float. But clearly, when the entire thing explodes from the inside out, that device is going to lose power and/or structural integrity. At that point, the whole thing would just fall. Straight down. It would not glide peacefully into a mountain.

P.S. This may have been mentioned already, but for awesome cinematics in noise-less space see Firefly. Especially the pilot episode. They sadly don't make as much a point of it in the movie Serenity. The one scene I remember with action in space, rather than atmosphere, seemingly takes the sound perspective from inside a suit, where contact with the ship provides some sound transfer. It slightly overpowers the fact that you still don't actually hear things that aren't in direct contact with the ship.

 

[InifniteWit]

Lasers are light bro.


My actual answer: The part in chronicles of Narnia where it's all surreal near the end of the battle and the dud is there with his sword and not a drop of blood on it at all. Yeah my kid dragged my off to see it.

 

[captainwillies]

The extreeeeeeeeeme long shots in Wanted.

They're freakin' impossible. Especially the last one in the movie where the bullet travels past like half the characters in the film.

geez

actually the last world record for shooting (with a hand gun) some guy hit a target 600 meters away. the wanted may be possible but very unlikely.

 

[InifniteWit]

No. Anything in Wanted is bullshit plain and simple. I don't care how it comes out of the barrel something moving at 800 feet per second is not going to make a full 360 degree turn. Oh and wanted sucked!

 

[the_tramp]

The entire Wanted movie

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When I saw that film I spent more time throwing my hand up in the air (a weird thing I do when a character does something or an event happens that is illogical) than actually watching the film. I started laughing towards the end.

 

[Fronken]

The Shawshank Redemption

Spoiler

So, you've just reached the climax of the movie. Andy has broken out of prison, where he didn't belong, and the warden and Hadley are getting what they deserve. It's an ultimate moment in film. He "crawls through shit-smelling foulness and comes out clean on the other side." But there's always a nagging thought in the back of my head: how did Andy, a man at least 2 or 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier than the warden fit into a suit fitted for the warden? Even if you ignore the fact that Andy fit in the smaller man's shoes with no problem (some people do have small feet; Andy could be one of them) the suit doesn't make any sense. So, I choose just to ignore this.

Now that you mention it, that doesnt really make sense, but i'm gonna choose to ignore that fact seeing as The Shawshank Redemption is one of the best movies ever created, atleast one of the best i've ever seen.

 

[Caliostro]

The Shawshank Redemption

Spoiler

So, you've just reached the climax of the movie. Andy has broken out of prison, where he didn't belong, and the warden and Hadley are getting what they deserve. It's an ultimate moment in film. He "crawls through shit-smelling foulness and comes out clean on the other side." But there's always a nagging thought in the back of my head: how did Andy, a man at least 2 or 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier than the warden fit into a suit fitted for the warden? Even if you ignore the fact that Andy fit in the smaller man's shoes with no problem (some people do have small feet; Andy could be one of them) the suit doesn't make any sense. So, I choose just to ignore this.

Spoiler

If I remember the movie correctly, Andy altered the measures in the taylor's notes to fit him or something like that...if I remember correctly...

 

[SomeUnregPunk]

Die Harder .. When John MacClaine lights airplane fuel with a lighter and the fire travels up the line of fuel, up into the air and blow up the plane as it is flying off.

Airplane fuel needs to be atomized ( tiny little droplets or mist form ) before it can ignite. Even if you can lite it on fire, it will not hold the flame for more than a few seconds. It's like diesel.You can lite it but it just won't stay lit. Now normal gasoline can do it... but airplane especially jetliners does not use normal automobile gasoline.

Cars blow up when someone shoots the fuel tank.
People using a car doors to stop bullets.

In the Wanted film when the dude use an Adrenaline rush to propel himself across a building.
Why couldn't they have said that they had mutant powers or something closer to the source material. As soon as they said Adrenaline, it made the bunch of medical students in front of me start groaning in fake agony.

When in gun fights people use more bullets than the gun or pistol can possibly hold before a reload.

The Hero getting the equivalent of being tossed into a thresher and still take on people with out a loss in accuracy in guns, punches, or hell even just plain walking.

 

[Vigormortis]

For me, I almost always manage to find some plot hole or "Hollywood" physics moment in pretty much every film I've ever seen. In some cases, it has ruined some aspects of the film in which it occurs, but for the most part I just let it slip by. However, plot-hole or no, most films out there really aren't that great. It's unfortunate that over 99% of the movies that have ever been made really do, well, suck, when scrutinized logically.

Um the sound in space thing is fine. Its been done since space battles found their way to film. Even a physics enthusiast like myself is willing to let it slide because watching things pass by in space without sound is boring. About the only movie that has done no sound well was 2001: A Space Odyessy. Even then, the had the silence covered up with the Blue Danube and surprisingly poinant breathing.

I apologize, but I have to disagree. Serenity (and the series from which it was based, Firefly) did the whole "no sound in space" thing exquisitely.

when superman makes time go backwards... it cant happen!

Yeah it can, if he's exceeding the speed of light.

In dark knight, that "two-face" guy should of died when his other half of his face melted or something.

Amazingly, people with burns don't simply die of ugliness. That sort of scarring isn't as rare as you'd think.

On the first part, yes time can (in theory) be traveled through in "reverse", but it's not done simply by traveling faster than light.

On the second part, too true. I've seen even worse scarring on burn victims that managed to survive for a period of time. However, when it's that extensive, they don't live long. Infections and the shear amount of pain usually do them in. I suspect that's part of the reason Two Face is offed so quickly in The Dark Knight.

 

[zombi2989]

Fight Club.
Brad Pitt's character flashed on the screen for one frame a couple of times and I immediately figured he was Edward Norton's imagination or something like that. It didn't really ruin the movie for me, but it did kind of ruin the scene where Edward Norton figures it out.

 

[BasicMojo]

Um the sound in space thing is fine. Its been done since space battles found their way to film. Even a physics enthusiast like myself is willing to let it slide because watching things pass by in space without sound is boring. About the only movie that has done no sound well was 2001: A Space Odyessy. Even then, the had the silence covered up with the Blue Danube and surprisingly poinant breathing.

Joss Whedon's Firefly is a perfect example of scenes in space done well with no sound. Though that's more of a series than a movie...but Serenity did it too. I try not to ruin my movies with logic until after I've seen them at least once or twice. And I think that movies based off of comic books shouldn't necessarily conform to logical thought.

 

[far_wanderer]

At the beginning of Star Wars: A New Hope, at the line "hold your fire, there's no life-forms aboard." Since when did the Empire start rationing laser fire?

Also, Star Wars expanded universe books have explained the whole sound-in-space thing (and spaceship maneuverability) by saying that in that universe there's a lot more stuff in space, as evidenced by a time when Lando flies through an exceptionally empty spot and the engines almost burn out because they have nothing to push against.
That's not to say that an explanation like that actually makes sense, but you should at least be upset by the explanation itself, rather than the fact that they have sound in space.

Regarding lightsabers: I think I remember magnets being the magic answer that explains everything. But I'm not sure how or why.

 

[paiged]

I can't think of anything too exciting, but I remember watching Titanic when I was younger, and the part right after Jack "saves" Rose from suicide and is invited to dinner, he meets her at the stairs and kisses her hand, proclaiming "I saw that on a nickelodeon once and I always wanted to do it".

It's 1912. There's no Nickelodeon. There's not even TV. Not to mention, Jack was supposedly "living under a bridge" a week before he won his ticket for this trip in a poker match.

And I still want to know how after spending 84 years underwater, you can just rinse a sketchbook off and see the drawings the artist made in it.