Climate Nearing “Point of No Return”

[Silvanus]

Sultan Al Jaber claims there's "no science" supporting the idea that a phase-out of fossil fuels is necessary to keep warming at or below 1.5c. Also repeats the old nonsense trope that phasing out fossil fuels would take us "back into caves".

Cop28 president says there is ‘no science’ behind demands for phase-out of fossil fuels

Exclusive: UAE’s Sultan Al Jaber says phase-out of coal, oil and gas would take world ‘back into caves’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Thaluikhain]

Well, he does seem like someone we should listen to, with no personal motives for such a stance.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Sultan Al Jaber claims there's "no science" supporting the idea that a phase-out of fossil fuels is necessary to keep warming at or below 1.5c. Also repeats the old nonsense trope that phasing out fossil fuels would take is "back into caves".

Cop28 president says there is ‘no science’ behind demands for phase-out of fossil fuels

Exclusive: UAE’s Sultan Al Jaber says phase-out of coal, oil and gas would take world ‘back into caves’

www.theguardian.com

There's one teeny-tiny problem with his argument: The world's supply of coal, oil and gas are limited. So not weaning ourselves off of them while we can will "send us back to the caves", permanently.

 

[Ag3ma]

Sultan Al Jaber claims there's "no science" supporting the idea that a phase-out of fossil fuels is necessary to keep warming at or below 1.5c. Also repeats the old nonsense trope that phasing out fossil fuels would take is "back into caves".

Cop28 president says there is ‘no science’ behind demands for phase-out of fossil fuels

Exclusive: UAE’s Sultan Al Jaber says phase-out of coal, oil and gas would take world ‘back into caves’

www.theguardian.com

What a surprise! It was sheer aburdity to put a guy running a massive oil firm in charge of Cop. How else did anyone think this was going to turn out? The thing is, I think this suited a great deal of international leaders, because why not subvert and embarrass Cop from the inside by simply installing a fossil fuel stooge to run it? Western leaders would have done it themselves, were it not for the fact it would be a little too publicly embarrassing.

Oil producers can earn vast billions from fossil fuels, spend a thousandth of that on PR campaigns to mitigate the reputational damage, and a hundredth of it on a "loss and damage fund" that will never come close to compensating countries for the actual loss and damage they experience from climate change.

 

[Gergar12]

Cop28 host UAE has world’s biggest climate-busting oil plans, data indicates

State oil company’s huge expansion plans make its CEO’s role as president of UN climate summit ‘ridiculous’, say researchers

www.theguardian.com

So, COP28 will be kicking off, hosted by the UAE. ADNOC, the UAE's state oil company, is the company with the single most harmful expansion plan in the world to the net-zero goal. It was also leaked that the hosts had planned to use COP28 to promote oil deals-- it's unclear if those deals will still receive promotion now the hosts have been pressured into denials.

...but another big polluting industry aiming to have a huge presence is meat & dairy. JBS, the largest food processing company in the world, aims to lobby hard on behalf of meat & dairy. The dairy industry remains one of the biggest polluters, above even aviation.

Big Meat Unveils Battle Plans for COP28

Major meat companies and industry lobby groups are planning a large presence at COP28, equipped with a communications plan to get a pro-meat message heard by policymakers throughout the summit, DeSmog can reveal. Documents seen by DeSmog and the Guardian show that the meat industry is poised to...

www.desmog.com

No wonder people have dwindling faith in the political initiatives to tackle climate change. The UAE hosting COP28 strikes me as a bit like appointing Harold Shipman as Chief Medical Officer.

WEF politics as usual.

 

[Gergar12]

Know This About Net Zero - JSTOR Daily

The term "net zero" remains ill-defined among the public. So what is it? Why is it necessary, and how does it fall short of solving all our climate woes?

daily.jstor.org

Carbon taxes > carbon credits.

 

[Chimpzy]

Exxon CEO blames public for failure to fix climate change

The world isn’t on track to meet its climate goals — and it’s the public’s fault, a leading oil company CEO told journalists. Exxon Mobil Corp. CEO Darren Woods told editors from …

thehill.com

Also

Revealed: Exxon made ‘breathtakingly’ accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s

Oil company drove some of the leading science of the era only to publicly dismiss global heating

www.theguardian.com

Someone toss this suit into a wood chipper

 

[Gergar12]

Global warming in the pipeline

Abstract. Improved knowledge of glacial-to-interglacial global temperature change yields Charney (fast-feedback) equilibrium climate sensitivity 1.2 ± 0.3°

academic.oup.com

Horror show.

 

[Gergar12]

FML.

Edit:

 

[Bedinsis]

Record reduction of 2023 ETS emissions due largely to boost in renewable energy

Last year’s emissions under the EU’s Emission Trading System (ETS) show the most significant annual emissions reductions since the ETS was launched in 2005. The main driver is the power sector’s significant progress in decarbonisation.

climate.ec.europa.eu

Switching from fossil fuel to solar and wind power in the EU has reduced the power generation section's emission by 24 % since 2022. At least some positive news.

 

[Gergar12]

I want to remind everyone that even the yellow line means we are fucked.

 

[PsychedelicDiamond]

I want to remind everyone that even the yellow line means we are fucked.

I really hope Americans will do the right thing and vote for Target in the upcoming election.

 

[hanselthecaretaker2]

I want to remind everyone that even the yellow line means we are fucked.

^ Actually kinda surprised she didn’t label it “Clinton”.

 

[tippy2k2]

I really hope Americans will do the right thing and vote for Target in the upcoming election.

The 5% Target Red Discount alone will save us billions!

 

[Gergar12]

We are so fucked.

How is climate change not above gun violence, if you want to see real deaths, and horror imagine millions dead every summer at a bare minimum.

47th Edition - Spring 2024

A national poll released today by the Institute of Politics (IOP) at Harvard Kennedy School indicates that among 18-to-29-year-olds nationwide, more than half of young Americans say they will definitely be voting in the Presidential election this Fall. But findings show that among those likely...

iop.harvard.edu

 

[tstorm823]

How is climate change not above gun violence, if you want to see real deaths, and horror imagine millions dead every summer at a bare minimum.

I appreciate the acknowledgement that your doomsday scenario is imaginary.

 

[Bedinsis]

How is climate change not above gun violence, if you want to see real deaths, and horror imagine millions dead every summer at a bare minimum.

The WHO estimates an additional 250 000 deaths per year due to climate change, from 2030 to 2050. Where did you get "millions" from?

Are you talking of effects that the WHO did not account for? Like the polar ice melting and the resulting additional climate refugees or if failing harvests lead to war?

 

[Gergar12]

The WHO estimates an additional 250 000 deaths per year due to climate change, from 2030 to 2050. Where did you get "millions" from?

Are you talking of effects that the WHO did not account for? Like the polar ice melting and the resulting additional climate refugees or if failing harvests lead to war?

Yes I am geopolitics is a thing. And I am basing it on the Hansen report/the worst case scenario.

 

[Thaluikhain]

How is climate change not above gun violence, if you want to see real deaths, and horror imagine

Well, you have to imagine. We aren't seeing deaths that we can point at and say this is due to climate change. Sure, the numbers of people dying from various things will increase, but mostly in the future, and difficult to say this person died from climate change, this person would have died anyway.

Gun violence is a more obvious, more now problem.

But yeah, climate change will be much worse.

 

[Elijin]

Also at this point, most individuals cannot see or feel the impact of climate change in a way which something like gun violence or cost of living impacts them.

It's still a bit abstract.