Where I live, assisted suicide is legal and I totally support it. If I am in extreme pain for the rest of my life, then I hope to have that option. I'm not sure if I would do it, but I still want the choice.
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I'd like to look at the facts, but you didn't give any.Douk said:
Not everything is black and white, and your perception of the world and the people around you is hardly the be-all and end-all view. Sure, at the end of the day, it's their decision, but to just shrug off all responsibility and say 'let them' is incredibly selfish. Why should you need any sort of emotional attatchment to someone to have to help them when they're in need?
I'm lucky enough not to have been affected by suicide myself, but I can at least empathise with those who have found themselves in such a difficult position. Your categorisation of different types of suicides (and the fact that you subsequently only produced two categories) showcases just how naive you are in this respect.
I'll attempt to defend my weird views heh heh. If someone is being bullied then suicide is not a rational choice, there's so much more that can be done, but when someone is overly emotional they see suicide is a valid choice. I'm going to help someone fight bullies and try to convince them not to kill themselves, like tell their parents/siblings, but I'm not going to watch them 24/7 to make sure they don't shoot their head. I'm not responsible for someone else if they are that determined to throw their life away.Superfly CJ said:
Those categorizations are there because I feel differently on a case by case basis, but I tried to generalize it, I had like 5 different types but I shortened it to two for time saving. But the two I put are completely different in what could be going on in someones life, you can't deny that.
"Suicide is the question yes is the answer."-Unknown. Well I have strong opinions on it, and I'm torn by it. My religion keeps me from doing it, but my heart wants me to.
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Thank you sir, this is the second cookie I have received tonight along with cannibalistic cats...PoisonUnagi said:You are a fucking WIN.Iron Criterion said:
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Euthanasia is fine. Its humanely ending a life when its too physically painful to be enjoyed.
Suicide is bullshit. There are people without homes or any money, starving and suffering, looked down upon by the rest of humanity, treated like scum. If they can manage to find the will to live, then how is being bullied or being left by your girlfriend/wife a valid reason to off yourself.
I'm not however saying that people are selfish or cowards when they do commit suicide. They're just people who need more help dealing with adversity than most.
Suicide is bullshit. There are people without homes or any money, starving and suffering, looked down upon by the rest of humanity, treated like scum. If they can manage to find the will to live, then how is being bullied or being left by your girlfriend/wife a valid reason to off yourself.
I'm not however saying that people are selfish or cowards when they do commit suicide. They're just people who need more help dealing with adversity than most.
While I understand that people who consider suicide often consider it the best option for themselves and others at the time, 99% of the time they are completely wrong. I sympathize with people who have gone through that kind of ordeal whether as a first or third party. That being said, I think suicide is also a very stupid thing to do unless your only other choice is a slow and painful death.
I can say I have thought about it more than once, its complicated issue I hate when people say that "well they should have got over it!"
And I have to ask do YOU know what they were feeling or going through? Do you know what its like to have two people argue about you who dont really want you?
So beore making any snide comments think about it, please..
And I have to ask do YOU know what they were feeling or going through? Do you know what its like to have two people argue about you who dont really want you?
So beore making any snide comments think about it, please..
I've had thoughts about it, but I've never attempted it. And if somebody really wants to do it, nobody should stop them. Of course, they are allowed to try to convince them, but they're not allowed to literally stop them.
People honestly will never understand what it takes to consider suicide until they reach such a low that they themselves have considered it.
Most people never reach that low.
I've been there and though I never would take my own life, at one point I didn't have much left to live for and I finally understood why people consider suicide.
Most people never reach that low.
I've been there and though I never would take my own life, at one point I didn't have much left to live for and I finally understood why people consider suicide.
Talk to some one who cuts and ask them why, its a release, you might not like it but it works for us...
Immanuel Kant would say that suicide is never acceptable because the act treats a human being as a means to an end rather than an end in and of themself, so from an ethical standpoint, it is wrong. By completing suicide, a human being devalues their existance for the sake of a problem that may very well not be life ending. Really, is there anything out there that is really worth killing yourself over?
Only when faced with the certainty of a slow and painful death by some other means would killing oneself be a viable option, and even philosophers like Kant would probably disagree there too.
Suicide is wrong, and it is not victimless.
Only when faced with the certainty of a slow and painful death by some other means would killing oneself be a viable option, and even philosophers like Kant would probably disagree there too.
Suicide is wrong, and it is not victimless.
I've always thought that if someone wants to die it's their choice to make, but if you feel the need to help a stranger, or really care about the person obviously you should try to talk them out of it.
I think about suicide all the time, but it's become so common that I know I just need to go to sleep and then all is better in the morning. Of course, sleep doesn't always help either.
In the end if there is anything keeping me from killing myself, it is the my addiction. There is always one more game I need to play. Hitman 5 won't be out for awhile!
I think about suicide all the time, but it's become so common that I know I just need to go to sleep and then all is better in the morning. Of course, sleep doesn't always help either.
In the end if there is anything keeping me from killing myself, it is the my addiction. There is always one more game I need to play. Hitman 5 won't be out for awhile!
Okay... BonsaiK, how can you commit suicide and it be unselfish? My ex-girlfriend's best friend shot himself yesterday leaving his friends and family to wonder how they could have prevented it. With death, there is always "survivor's guilt"... with suicide you put the people through a worse version.
I have considered it... even tried it, but thankfully I could not do that to those I love. I figure, if I am not meant for greatness in anyway, my life will end of its own accord when the time's "right". My mother died 2 years ago suddenly and without warning. Her story was finished and she could do even more with her death than life. She did not cause anything, simply had an allergic reaction that caused an athesma attack. She could not breathe...
That night was what sealed it... I would not commit suicide. I could not make my family suffer like that. Anyone that chooses the easy-out and kill themselves prove to all how weak they are.
I have considered it... even tried it, but thankfully I could not do that to those I love. I figure, if I am not meant for greatness in anyway, my life will end of its own accord when the time's "right". My mother died 2 years ago suddenly and without warning. Her story was finished and she could do even more with her death than life. She did not cause anything, simply had an allergic reaction that caused an athesma attack. She could not breathe...
That night was what sealed it... I would not commit suicide. I could not make my family suffer like that. Anyone that chooses the easy-out and kill themselves prove to all how weak they are.
Yeah, I personally hate the whole 'lol emo' thing, although of course if you're cutting yourself as a fashion statement, you're an idiot, I somehow think that kind of thing is a lot rarer than people make out.
I've had mental troubles myself and I've known others with similar problems, and while I've never tried anything, I think if we had Futurama style suicide booths, there'd be a lot less people in the world, and I'm not going to go any further on that train of thought...
I've certainly thought about it, but the pain and the thought of it going wrong, combined with the idea of leaving a bloated week old corpse slowly bonding with my carpet to be found by my mother certainly helps keep the thoughts away, as if there is an afterlife, I don't want to go there with even more guilt than I carry in this one.
I should state that I'm 37, don't have dyed black hair, and don't own any MCR albums, although I'm pleased to see how decent most posters have been here,staying away from the stereotypes far more than I have ,even in my attempts to pre-empt those comments.
I've had mental troubles myself and I've known others with similar problems, and while I've never tried anything, I think if we had Futurama style suicide booths, there'd be a lot less people in the world, and I'm not going to go any further on that train of thought...
I've certainly thought about it, but the pain and the thought of it going wrong, combined with the idea of leaving a bloated week old corpse slowly bonding with my carpet to be found by my mother certainly helps keep the thoughts away, as if there is an afterlife, I don't want to go there with even more guilt than I carry in this one.
I should state that I'm 37, don't have dyed black hair, and don't own any MCR albums, although I'm pleased to see how decent most posters have been here,staying away from the stereotypes far more than I have ,even in my attempts to pre-empt those comments.