Comicon and similar events tend to attract people who are very vocal about their opinions. especially negative opinions. It might not be enough to bomb a movie entirely, but if the first unveiling is at comicon, and the highly critical nerds there don't like it and get vocal about not liking it, that's not a good start to your marketing campaign.Jesus Phish said:
Comic-Con Loses Hollywood Support
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... This is a bad thing? Am I supposed to feel like not having Hollywood turn the place into a giant ad for their next disappointing shitfest is a bad thing?
Maybe it can actually be about comics and the good stuff now. Apparently executives only figured all this out now.
If you make a shit movie, expect people to not like it. Especially when it's a hardcore fan base you're trying to sell a mainstream movie to.
I mean really, Twilight? Get the fuck out of here.
Maybe it can actually be about comics and the good stuff now. Apparently executives only figured all this out now.
If you make a shit movie, expect people to not like it. Especially when it's a hardcore fan base you're trying to sell a mainstream movie to.
I mean really, Twilight? Get the fuck out of here.
Comic fans wouldn't be so sour on comic book adaptations if the movies were faithful to the source material.
So because they call them out on what they do wrong, they got upset? If you dont want say, Wolverine Origins to fail, then make Deadpool Deadpool. Its really quite simple. There was no excuse for whatever that thing was that they called "Deadpool".
Nothing will earn more scorn and hate than something a nerd loves being altered or not living up to said nerd's expectations. It's a pity, because we constantly demand new stuff and innovation, but the moment some tries this, we burn them at the stake. I think Hollywood has made the right call. You just can't please some people, so it's best to just not deal with them. A little cold, I know, but it's the truth.
What do you expect? It's not really the fans' fault completely because a big studio wanting easy, safe money is taking something niche fans are passionate about and completely changing some things around or away from the source material.
Of course people are going to nerd-rage about their loved characters translated into a mass-appeal, watered down bro-show.
I don't read comics, but I get where they're coming from
Of course people are going to nerd-rage about their loved characters translated into a mass-appeal, watered down bro-show.
I don't read comics, but I get where they're coming from
"marketing people realize they have less of a chance to be weasels when they actually have to show their work"
Last movie I paid to watch in the theater was Tron Legacy and it was a STINKER that completely failed to capture what made the original magical. And the 3D sucked.
I suspect the studios see the writing on the wall, comics are going the way of newspapers into long tail obscurity life support. The fans are getting older, the meatspace product isn't getting any better, and electronic distribution eliminates the need for the value sucking middlemen in between creators and their fans.
IMO comics really peaked with the 90s Image bubble and have been going downhill ever since. I do like the idea of graphic novels to tell stories that require a specific image density and would be either too expensive or too controversial, to tell with a movie. Transmetropolitan comes to mind.
I'm fine with hollywood stealing ideas from comics and adapting them to movies. A comic is a great, low budget way to "test market" an idea or concept and see what holds people's interest.
Last movie I paid to watch in the theater was Tron Legacy and it was a STINKER that completely failed to capture what made the original magical. And the 3D sucked.
I suspect the studios see the writing on the wall, comics are going the way of newspapers into long tail obscurity life support. The fans are getting older, the meatspace product isn't getting any better, and electronic distribution eliminates the need for the value sucking middlemen in between creators and their fans.
IMO comics really peaked with the 90s Image bubble and have been going downhill ever since. I do like the idea of graphic novels to tell stories that require a specific image density and would be either too expensive or too controversial, to tell with a movie. Transmetropolitan comes to mind.
I'm fine with hollywood stealing ideas from comics and adapting them to movies. A comic is a great, low budget way to "test market" an idea or concept and see what holds people's interest.
I reckon most of it comes from Hollywood forcing their same old tired cliches in to a format that doesn't need or use them.Snowy Rainbow said:
Fans are a treacherous, emotional and often irrational lot.
In regards to video games, rather than movies, I've seen the unfortunate decline of a few fine video games over time because the developers decided to listen to their outspoken fans instead of their sense as designers.
In regards to video games, rather than movies, I've seen the unfortunate decline of a few fine video games over time because the developers decided to listen to their outspoken fans instead of their sense as designers.
Me: What is all this talk of Twilight at Comic Con? That can't possibly be true.
*goes to youtube*
I'm so emotionally upset I don't even know how to cry right now... I just don't know how to describe what I just saw, and I stopped the clip at 30 seconds... I couldn't do it... I literally cannot come up with any thought about this, it just confuses me. I guess I'm just lucky enough to not have been there live... My condolences...
*goes to youtube*
I'm so emotionally upset I don't even know how to cry right now... I just don't know how to describe what I just saw, and I stopped the clip at 30 seconds... I couldn't do it... I literally cannot come up with any thought about this, it just confuses me. I guess I'm just lucky enough to not have been there live... My condolences...
So Hollywood discovered the horrible, vicious beast known as the fanboy/fangirl in their natural habitat, and decided they didn't want to tangle with them...
I don't blame them one bit. With the way so-called "fans" react to things nowadays, you wonder why producers just don't give up on making things altogether when they know the only reaction they will ever get is people whining that it's shit. Last week's South Park and MovieBob in the Big Picture video someone linked really have said all I need to say on that particular subject.
So can we PLEASE tone down the nerdrage, just a bit? Before we lose something we really do love because the producer just doesn't want to put up with the bitching anymore? Pleeeeeeeeeeeze?
I don't blame them one bit. With the way so-called "fans" react to things nowadays, you wonder why producers just don't give up on making things altogether when they know the only reaction they will ever get is people whining that it's shit. Last week's South Park and MovieBob in the Big Picture video someone linked really have said all I need to say on that particular subject.
Jumwa said:
These two posts are also quite nice summaries of it. And to repeat that age-old line (that someone else has also already said), this is why we can't have nice things...Sniper Team 4 said:
So can we PLEASE tone down the nerdrage, just a bit? Before we lose something we really do love because the producer just doesn't want to put up with the bitching anymore? Pleeeeeeeeeeeze?
because every single fan who goes goes to see movies also shows up at CC, right?
Don't piss on CC because humanity in general didn't deem your movie worth wasting already tight money on.
Don't piss on CC because humanity in general didn't deem your movie worth wasting already tight money on.
I can understand why not having movie advertisements everywhere could be a good thing.
But still, I don't understand this decision.
The worlds biggest convention of geeks and comic book fans isn't a good place to premiere the AVENGERS? Either someone in the company has no brain inside their skull, or it's simply a matter they don't want the movie to be seen 'connecting' with geeks.
But still, I don't understand this decision.
The worlds biggest convention of geeks and comic book fans isn't a good place to premiere the AVENGERS? Either someone in the company has no brain inside their skull, or it's simply a matter they don't want the movie to be seen 'connecting' with geeks.
