Yes, I understand the phrasing isn't an exact match to the question you asked, but that is the root of this current argument.
Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates
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A holy site is burning. They can see it. Rather than concern or respectful quiet, the response is ecstatic dancing to booming music.
A tree caught fire uphill from their annual dancing and booming music celebration.
Like, there are so many valid criticisms you can make. The escalating clashes between protestors and police started this time from Israel putting covid restrictions on Ramadan celebrations. There's plenty of room for criticism there. Like, Israel has been very aggressive with covid policies, and even more aggressive with vaccinations, so limiting an event to vaccinated people is consistent with that, but comparing vaccination rates in the regions given how much the groups share space, it's absolutely condemnable that Israel lets Palestinians suffer the pandemic and then says "sorry guys, your pilgrimage is cancelled if you're not vaccinated". That's cruel. I'm not gonna argue about that. There, I made a point for you. And it wasn't "a tree burned near their 4th of July celebration, they must be genocidal".
Would you care to try again? One person says you can't understand anything about Jewish-Arab enmity without understand western imperialism. You personally called the groups' hatred for each other a "byproduct" of British and French actions in the region. And you're suggesting I made up those positions for you.
You are more than welcome to say "I don't think you're arguing with what I intended to say" and then explain what I'm apparently missing here.
Get owned, try to reverse the exact own, fail miserably because I was exceptionally clear in what I meant and it isn’t that.
Edit: let’s have some fun, when and why did Arab become a nationality rather than a language?
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I'm not trying to own you. I know people here like to take cheap shots and then aggressively like each other's posts, but that's not what I'm trying to do. Trunkage asked "who said that", so I pointed to the root of what I was responding to before Trunkage engaged with me so that the conversation can continue from your "exceptionally clear" statement rather than mine or anyone else's.
If you want to take cheap shots and then duck out of the conversation, that's your prerogative, don't project that onto me.
I ducked out because your argument was a non-sequitur pushing the argument into nonsense you feel comfortable arguing about because the entire framework of it is dumb, wherein I must either believe Arabs and Jews must always be adversaries as if the same argument couldn’t have been made about Jews and any European nationality as recently as half a century ago or I must believe that the British created all world-conflict. But of course, both of those are dumb conclusions rooted in the idea that history only occurs through the intentional acts of powerful leaders managing the sinful children of this world, and if I accepted either or even dismissed both as “over-simplifying” I’d be rapidly descending a staircase of pointless arguments to entertain a man I hate, so instead I did something I consider entertaining and therefore a better use of my time.
a) Me arguing with you is not telling you what you must believe. I don't know why you would take part in any argument if you see opposing opinions in that light.
b) There are a thousand reasonable positions between those options and outside of them, that include the possibility that Arabs and Jews need not always be adversaries but they might still be even if Europe hadn't drawn dumb borders for the world.
Get a better hobby
Edit: I phrased that poorly, my apologies. I meant something more along the lines of “get a hobby you are better at.”
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Well, it's Revnak I think you've misinterpreted. But you can do that all you like. I've made my decision based on the evidence you provided. Ive learnt a long time ago that people who are misinterpretings arent going to respond well to having that pointed out. There are bigger things to worry about and Renvak is big enough to defend themselves. I dont like speaking for others, because that's a good way to misinterpret others and I'll only step in if it gets stupid
Isrealis: Directly say they hate Palestinians and want to kill them for fun
Conservatives: "This is complicated."
Conservatives: "This is complicated."
Lefties point out what Israelis have said
Conservatives: You're antisemitic. You're pro-Hamas and love terrorist
Man, it's been a fun week
Well that, and (really fucking ironically) all the terrorism;
Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia
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It’s not terrorism if it’s against the British.Well that, and (really fucking ironically) all the terrorism;
Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia
I'm guessing this is based on personal experience, but be sure you're pointing out things that were actually said, and not just maliciously bad twitter translations. There's a lot of those going around.
As it happens, the IRA lost almost all of their US support more or less overnight in late 2001, when the US decided that terrorism was serious business.