eventually they'll run out of token concessions and may have to do something really important.Looking forward to how much this will not actually matter.
U.K., Canada and Australia formally recognize a Palestinian state, breaking with the U.S.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused Britain and other Western allies of giving Hamas a "prize," saying: "It will not happen. A Palestinian state will not be established west of the Jordan River."www.nbcnews.com
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Problem is Israel will feel like they will be backed into a corner and might resort to using the nuclear option
while they do seem intent on committing national suicide, I think that they would rather flee elsewhere than spitefully die. and their leadership has that option.
Doesn't even have to do that, just tone down the genocide a bit and stay conventional. Though, the leaders risk political issues from less killing.
it depends. if world opinion turns against them so much that no prominent governments support them, then the efforts of Ansarallah, Hezbollah, the various Palestinian resistance groups including Hamas, and anyone else who wants to join in should be able to defeat them one way or another, leading to a dismantling of the state and perhaps some atrocities in reprisal. But I agree that there is a large risk of returning to the slower burning pre-2023 status quo.
Honestly I don't know how much more blatant they can be about this while still fooling everyone that Israel isn't just another western colonial outpost (designed and supplied from ground up to maintain destabilisation campaigns in the middle east for long term total control of political and local resource extraction - gotta find a way to abbreviate this lol). The demons are maskless now proudly feeding upon their prey. Look at this shit, seriously look very fucking long and carefully. This is not moral, not ethical, not anywhere barely close to justifiable. It's pure uncut villain ideology. Is this not enough to care , to be angry?
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Tony Blair ‘seeking to play key role’ in running postwar Gaza under Trump peace plan
Trump administration wants former British prime minister to be involved in transitional postwar arrangement
Also I'm kinda confused why conservatives hate Blair as much as progressives do anyway cos he pretty much does everything they want to do, whether they're honest about it or not. His actions and ideology are deeply entrenched in Reaganism/Thatcherite goals. If it were the other way around, I'd welcome any conservative leader who'd embrace progressive policies.Tony Blair ‘seeking to play key role’ in running postwar Gaza under Trump peace plan
Trump administration wants former British prime minister to be involved in transitional postwar arrangement
Former British prime minister Tony Blair has been proposed as chair of a Gaza international transitional authority. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images
George Parker in London and Andrew England and Abigail Hauslohner in New York
Fri Sept 26 2025 - 10:02
Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, is seeking to play a senior role in running postwar Gaza under a peace plan being developed by the Trump administration, according to people briefed on the proposal.
Mr Blair has been discussing postconflict plans with US president Donald Trump, who this week presented his latest proposals for a ceasefire in Gaza and how the strip would be governed in a transitional period after the fighting stops, during a meeting of Arab and Muslim leaders.
Mr Trump’s proposals included establishing a Palestinian committee to administer the war devastated strip, which would be overseen by an international supervisory board.
One of the people briefed on the plans said Mr Blair would like to be on the supervisory board. Another person familiar with the matter said he had been proposed as the chair of the board of a “Gaza International Transitional Authority”. Mr Blair’s office declined to comment.
Mr Blair, who served as Middle East envoy after leaving Downing Street, has been working in an individual capacity for months touting a plan for an international trusteeship to govern Gaza once Israel’s near two-year war against Hamas ends.
He attended a meeting at the White House last month to discuss postwar plans for the besieged strip along with Jared Kushner, Mr Trump’s son-in-law and Middle East adviser during the president’s first term.
US president Donald Trump and Jared Kushner. Photograph: Getty Images/Chip Somodevilla
European and Arab states have opposed the idea of an international trusteeship, believing it would marginalise the Palestinians and lack legitimacy in the eyes of Gazans.
They argue that Gaza should be run by a committee of Palestinian technocrats, endorsed by the Palestinian Authority, the western-backed body that administers limited parts of the occupied West Bank.
Mr Trump’s proposals include elements of various European and Arab plans, including a Palestinian committee to administer the strip with international oversight and the deployment of an international stabilisation force to help manage security.
The president’s plan also states there would be no forced displacement of Gazans.
Arab officials said they were optimistic about the plan after their meeting Mr Trump on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York on Tuesday. Those attending included leaders and senior officials from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Qatar, Pakistan and Indonesia.
One person briefed on the discussions about a potential role for Mr Blair said the US was looking to have him play a part in a transitional arrangement in Gaza.
Under Trump’s proposals, the US would push for a permanent ceasefire, with all the remaining hostages held by Hamas — about 20 of whom are believed to be alive — released together.
Israeli forces in Gaza would redeploy to positions they held during a temporary ceasefire between January and March and fully withdraw from the strip once a stabilisation force is in place, the people said.
Hamas, which triggered the war with its October 7th, 2023, attack on Israel that killed 1,200 people, would have no role in governance. The Palestinian Authority would be involved in the transition, but Arab and Muslim states would like its role to be expanded, people briefed on Trump’s plan said.
A big test of the plan’s success will be the reaction of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu when he meets the US president in Washington on Monday.
Netanyahu has repeatedly vowed to “destroy” Hamas. He broke the last ceasefire in March and in recent weeks has launched a fresh offensive on Gaza City, the strip’s largest urban centre. He has also repeatedly rejected any role for the Palestinian Authority.
His response to Mr Trump’s plan may test the president’s resolve to pressure Israel to end its offensive in Gaza, which has killed more than 65,000 people, according to Palestinian health officials.
Mr Trump told reporters in the Oval Office earlier on Thursday that he had a “very good conversation” with Mr Netanyahu and other Middle East leaders, and was “getting pretty close to having a deal on Gaza”. He also said, “I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank” and had relayed this to Mr Netanyahu.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Mr Blair’s role. - Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2025
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Offended by everything; ashamed of nothing.
Curious at this point how that would play out -
Latest episode of the "self hating Jewish" comedians with Palestinian director woman guest, this and stuff like majority report may be helpful for non Jewish ppls to understand the clarity of diffence between the actions of a violent colonial state and a religion that has existed for millennia before it was even created by British (and American) empire, may help not only find the best language for accuracy but also identify bad faith actors who may be trying to sneak actual antisemetism into your influence spheres...
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Full text of Trump's '20-point peace plan" is here.
Most importantly:
* Hamas can have no role in government. Must decommission its weaponry. Its agreeing members then receive amnesty.
* Gaza to be run by a Palestinian transitional committee, overseen by an international "Board of Peace" chaired by Trump and including Tony Blair.
* Internal security under a new "International Stabilisation Force" created by the US and Arab partners. It works through vetted Palestinian police forces.
* IDF withdraws to the perimeter, but not immediately; it hands areas to the ISF piecemeal over an unspecified timescale.
* Gazans do not have to leave, and those that do have the right to return (unlike under the "riviera" plan).
So, uhrm, it seems to require the Palestinians to take a hell of a lot on faith. They have to decommission their weapons before the occupiers even have to leave?
Most importantly:
* Hamas can have no role in government. Must decommission its weaponry. Its agreeing members then receive amnesty.
* Gaza to be run by a Palestinian transitional committee, overseen by an international "Board of Peace" chaired by Trump and including Tony Blair.
* Internal security under a new "International Stabilisation Force" created by the US and Arab partners. It works through vetted Palestinian police forces.
* IDF withdraws to the perimeter, but not immediately; it hands areas to the ISF piecemeal over an unspecified timescale.
* Gazans do not have to leave, and those that do have the right to return (unlike under the "riviera" plan).
So, uhrm, it seems to require the Palestinians to take a hell of a lot on faith. They have to decommission their weapons before the occupiers even have to leave?
He wouldn't be the worst person to do it, but this guy loves Rupert Murdoch to the point where he was able to get close enough to Murdoch's wife to have an affair with her.
Tony Blair and Rupert Murdoch: the deconstruction of a friendship
Even if untrue, rumours of Blair's alleged affair with Wendi Deng mean there is no fixing the former intimacy of the two godfathers
www.theguardian.com
Hamas has agreed to parts of the Trump plan, subject to others being further negotiated. Specifically they agreed to the release of the hostages in exchange for the release of Palestinian prisoners.
Yesterday evening Trump welcomed their decision and posted on social media that Israel must cease bombing.
Of course, they did not, and a further bombing raid on Gaza was conducted this morning, killing 6 (2 children). However reports are that the IDF has since been instructed to end offensive operations.
Yesterday evening Trump welcomed their decision and posted on social media that Israel must cease bombing.
Of course, they did not, and a further bombing raid on Gaza was conducted this morning, killing 6 (2 children). However reports are that the IDF has since been instructed to end offensive operations.
Maybe read your own statement again Congressman and try again
250.000 went to the streets in the Netherlands today in support of Palestine. Beyond the obvious reasons that this is good, it also helps someone like me who is surrounded day in and day out by people who are at best apathetic and at worst aggressive toward the Palestinians for daring to get in Israel's way and making them look bad on the world stage. And also being subjected to Vandaag Insight and Nieuws van de Dag on almost a daily basis. If you know those "news" programs than you know.
Won't be long before Israel starts murdering people or forcibly removing them again, especially now that the "spotlight" has been taken off.