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Iran gets political capital just from a "draw". It would be a global embarrassment and weakening for the USA, just like Russia's invasion of Ukraine has been an embarrassment and weakening for Russia, even if it ends up keeping a few oblasts of Ukrainian land.
The fact that this seems a semi recuring problem for America makes it extra unflattering. Vietnam, Afghanistan and now Iran. For a Hegemon the US seems very poor in translating their massive power into lasting victories.
 
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The fact that this seems a semi recuring problem for America makes it extra unflattering. Vietnam, Afghanistan and now Iran. For a Hegemon the US seems very poor in translating their massive power into lasting victories.
I think it's in large part because a lot of people involved actually weren't/aren't particularly interested in a victory, lasting or otherwise, and whose personal power just relied on going through the motions.

OTOH, there's plenty of short, sharp, not over-reaching operations that just kill a lot of people without inconveniencing the US too much. Panama, Granada, etc.
 

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The fact that this seems a semi recuring problem for America makes it extra unflattering. Vietnam, Afghanistan and now Iran. For a Hegemon the US seems very poor in translating their massive power into lasting victories.
Yes and no. I'm not sure it's that unusual. Name any great empire in history, and it's got it's fair share of dud campaigns and disasters.

For instance, the trick of the century of British dominance was not for the UK to actually beat anyone in a fight, it was to make the prospect of challenging British naval power - and thus trade control - so daunting that no-one would even try. Along the way, the British could carry out a whole load of underwhelming military campaigns (e.g. Crimean War, Boer War) without changing the fundamental reality that no-one was going to take on the RN. (Until WWI, and even then the RN won.)
 

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Yet again just sharing someone doesn't imply a shared 100% philosophical agreement with every single noise they made since birth. Purity tests serve to self-soothe while aiding the blatant creeping fash greedily clawing more power and resources from the rest of humanity (aside any obvious moral lines being crossed of course)
 

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3 + hours of appropriate background content to leave playing at your child's birthday party. Lots of info ,input, data, squeeze it all in, take an Adderall or substitute substance. We've no way but forward. into pitch black fog, no power to stop or slow or change direction ,but what we can affect is our knowledge and understanding, figuring out solidarity through multiple layers of misinformation and propaganda, and not leave ppl like tucker and candace to reframe and resurrect their classic favoured scapegoats so they can wall out any avenue that'll compromise that juicy blind patriotism so integral for long term support - yes it might not look like it ,but tucker is kinda serving as a lifeboat for the gop suppot, - dripfeeding soy-face questions, ("wot is gay??? "how did russel brand get so cooool and based?") to redirect their hatred and distrust elsewhere like a persistently blunt stasis (is his bread and butta1er, after all), ready to haul them slowly back after coast clears: meaning either the psychos have left/died in power and new plans are weaved, or the genocide is accelerated up to "better tot ask forgiveness than permission" ;state where the tact changes to a sorts "flood and forget" strategy: keep flooding zone with emotionally charged news stories of escalating intensity till all that silly mass murder seems like an awkward blip on the horizon distant enough they can blame progressives merely bringing it and causing them to feel less comfortable within the reality they cocoon for themselves. Cos if there's anything worth internalising from last few years....it's that people forget. Eventually. Inevitably. And especially after a little classic anxiety stirring. They always forget.
We’re joined by Abdel Razzaq Takriti for a wide-ranging discussion about the political forces and parties of the Palestinian revolution. You can check out Abdel’s project with the Dig, the Thawra Project, here: https://thawraproject.com/
Lack of sleep may affect quality of communication attempt, apologies - the relief just then of seeing a simple small cut n paste job cannot be overstated
 
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Counterpoint: the right kind of wealthy are about to make a lot of money from this.
I wouldn't buy Exxon right now. It just makes people want EVs, nuclear, and renewables.

So Tesla to 500 it is.
 

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(This is relevant because the Zionist terror regime just released "a report" which basically replays all their greatest lies about Oct. 7)

In order to distract from this:
 

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Stock Market goes down -> "Negotiations" -> Stock Market Goes up -> Freedom to bomb Iran to torpedo Negotiations -> Rinse and repeat.


What think will happen is that Trump, and Iran are in a holding pattern until the next US president is elected. Then President Democrat will tried to get a peace deal called the totally not JCPOA 2.
 

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Has been 8 months (?) since the ceasefire was agreed between Israel and Hamas. The demarcation line in the ceasefire was to leave ~50% of Gaza under IDF occupation.

In those 8 months, the IDF have advanced well past the agreed demarcation line, and have been shooting Palestinians in sight of wherever they establish. Netanyahu now says he has ordered the IDF to occupy 70% of Gaza. 900 Palestinians have been killed by the IDF since the 'ceasefire'.

 
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A Gay Palestinian Fled to Israel’s “Safe Haven.” Israel Tried to Exploit Him for Intelligence.


Kareem, whose name has been changed to protect his safety, had lived in the close-knit West Bank city for years, but he’d long known he would one day need to leave. It was March 2024, and the Tel Aviv Court for Administrative Affairs had recently ruled that LGBTQ+ Palestinians can petition for asylum in Israel — upending years of precedent that considered them ineligible. The following month, Kareem crossed into Israel, a country that has occupied the West Bank for more than twice as long as he’d been alive.

Supporters of Israel have long pointed to the “only democracy in the Middle East” as a purported safe haven for the LGBTQ+ community. While detractors say the argument amounts to “pinkwashing,” the use of LGBTQ+ inclusion to distract from moral and legal violations in other spheres, the Israeli government has doubled down on the concept, invoking it often to distract from violations of international law. In a speech before the United States Congress on July 24, 2024, for example, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu mocked protesters holding “Gays for Gaza” signs, saying they “might as well hold up signs saying ‘Chickens for KFC.’”

As Netanyahu spoke, Kareem was living legally in Israel, believing his status secure while an administrative storm was brewing behind the scenes. Palestinians like Kareem might be safer by virtue of the distance from their families, but the bureaucratic process of seeking asylum imposes its own dangers. In interviews with The Intercept, Kareem and multiple advocates and lawyers for Palestinian asylum-seekers described how Israeli authorities put asylum-seekers through permit revocations, instability, and, in many cases, coerce them into sharing information with Israel’s internal intelligence agency.

Kareem felt this pressure, he told The Intercept.

At a processing facility at Sha’ar Ephraim, a crossing point in the separation wall west of Tulkarm in the northern West Bank, Kareem recalled, Israeli authorities repeatedly pressed him for information on friends and family still living in the West Bank, anything that might be of use. The implication was a quid pro quo: intelligence in exchange for an easier permit approval process.

“When you are in such a fragile situation, you cannot be in the territories [the West Bank], and you don’t have status in Israel, the security bodies like the police … use this weakness and they try to get information or get someone’s cooperation from those people,” Kareem’s attorney, Tamir Blank, told The Intercept. “They promise them that they will not deport them or put them in jail.”

Kareem didn’t have the kind of information necessary to secure such a process. He found himself, like so many Palestinian asylum-seekers in Israel, in a series of cascading double binds. After they flee, they find themselves trapped: Leaving the West Bank for Israel carries with it the stigma, true or not, of having collaborated with Israeli authorities, making it even more difficult to return, and leaving nowhere else to go.
 

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Interesting choice of snippet. Hard to say you're trying to hide anything with the link posted, but odd you decided that his family sending in tips that he's a terrorist with Hamas wasn't relevant context to the questioning, or that he's still living in Tel Aviv safely isn't an outcome worth including.
Oh you mean this part:

His family appeared to have worked to sabotage his legal status through multiple channels. In June, they had filed a report with Israeli social services claiming Kareem was a Hamas member planning to attack civilians. When a security flag appeared in his file, triggering the revocation of his welfare permit, his lawyers raised the possibility in court that it too had been planted by his family to engineer his deportation. The Intercept attempted to reach Kareem’s father for comment but was unable to get in touch.
 

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Ok, now why did you bold that specific sentence? Was it to imply that it is speculative that his family interfered? The author says, in no uncertain terms, that they filed the report on him.
The author does not in anyway shape or form state with absolute certainty that he is a member of Hamas. All it says is the family filed a report on him. The article also points out that his father pulled a gun on him just because of rumors he was gay.
 

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The author does not in anyway shape or form state with absolute certainty that he is a member of Hamas. All it says is the family filed a report on him. The article also points out that his father pulled a gun on him just because of rumors he was gay.
Correct. His father threatened to kill him, and Israel took him in.
He was then accused of being a terror cell for Hamas, and Israel asked him for information on Hamas.
He's still living in Tel Aviv, with intention for him to find asylum in another nation further from the threats on his life.

Why is the story phrased as though Israel is hurting and exploiting him?
 

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Correct. His father threatened to kill him, and Israel took him in.
He was then accused of being a terror cell for Hamas, and Israel asked him for information on Hamas.
He's still living in Tel Aviv, with intention for him to find asylum in another nation further from the threats on his life.

Why is the story phrased as though Israel is hurting and exploiting him?
Just so we are all clear. You think a gay Palestinian could be part of Hamas