Console games have lost the advantage.

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CrysisMcGee

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What I mean is the advantages console games had over PC games, is not so prevalent.

Such as bugs. Console games had to make a finished product, because there was no way to release a patch. Or release an unfinished game, and get poor sales. Superman 64, anyone? PC games have always, and still suffer from this problem. Mostly It is due to the large differences in hardware the game needs to work with. Consoles have, and still have, one set of hardware it needs to work with. But it seems lately that they are relying too much on the internet. Updating the game, patching it, waiting half an hour to play your game.

Seems we are trying to bridge the gap. I don't like it.

Load Times. Okay, this went out the window ever since disc-based media became the norm. PC will always dominate here.

Plug-and-play. This seems to still be an advantage with consoles, if you like longer load times. I heard a couple years back they tried to make this available for the PC. Seems people will stand up with an installation to get much shorter load times. Actually, I'd rather install my games on a console to get shorter load times.

Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.



Okay, it seems I need some clarification. What I'm saying is the advantages Consoles had over PC games are lessened. Not as Prevalent.
 

A Weary Exile

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CrysisMcGee said:
Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.
You sir, are a PC elitist.

PCs have the constant updates, what I find to be very akward and boring control scheme, and bugs coming out the ass. The few PC games I have lag like no tomorrow (And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop) and most games available on PCs are available on consoles. The controller of a console had more heft and all the buttons are much closer together for quicker reactions (On a PC you can easily hit the wrong button since the keys are all so small and so close together). One argument I hear for PCs is the mouse being extremley accurate in an FPS but I much prefer the control sticks.

People have different preferences about what systems they wish to play their games on, so just keep in mind that everyone does not think like you.
 

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CrysisMcGee said:
Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.
I'm not convinced you understand the purpose of a game, so I'll say it real slow.
They...are...supposed...to...be...fun.
Yes, fun. Not lengthy,intelligent or rewarding. Fun.
 

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This is a pretty elitist statement. You're saying PC games are more intelligent, longer, and highly immersive, yet I bet most of your examples will be multi platform games. Oblivion, Mass Effect, KotOR, Fallout, all of these games are your things and also on consoles. It works the other way around, too. Starcraft, Plants vs. Zombies, Peggle, and many other games are games that were mainly on the PC, and guess what? They're still fun. I don't see why PC gamers should feel any different from console gamers. They are still gamers, and they still strive to have fun with their games.

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JenXXXJen

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The main disadvantage PC's have is that most people just don't have the money for good gaming PC's.
 

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wouldyoukindly99 said:
CrysisMcGee said:
Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.
You sir, are a PC elitist.
Was the first thing to come to my mind when I read that.
 

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You sound like a true old school Gamer. Perhaps, like myself, you grew up in a time when there was a world of difference between P.C and consoles (Worms on P.C in a friends house then back round home for some MGS on the PlayStation). That was when you had you Civilization type intelligent games on the P.C and your more simple fun games on your console, like RainbowSix.
 

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wouldyoukindly99 said:
(And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop)
First off, nice laptop != good at playing games.
wouldyoukindly99 said:
The controller of a console had more heft and all the buttons are much closer together for quicker reactions (On a PC you can easily hit the wrong button since the keys are all so small and so close together).
Logic fail.

Now that I have pointed out those little niggles, I understand where you are coming from. However, I tend to disagree. I prefer a mouse and keyboard for RTS and FPS gaming, however I prefer a joypad or suchlike for flying, fighting or racing games. Most consoles don't give me the option of having both for easy switching. For example, Warhawk on the PS3. I love flying the Warhawk with the Dualshock/Sixaxis, but when it comes to the third person shooting? I would prefer if I could switch to my keyboard and mouse instantly.

This is all personal preference, however.
 

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I never really though that Consoles had an advantage. Yes, they got games earlier than PC users but that's it. PC users have the same access to DLCs, patches and updates plus we make do with the superior mouse rather than the crappy sixaxisdualshockcrapofplastic. Also PC's have a keyboard making it elitist among text dependent games.

Peace people!
 

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wouldyoukindly99 said:
CrysisMcGee said:
Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.
You sir, are a PC elitist.

PCs have the constant updates, what I find to be very akward and boring control scheme, and bugs coming out the ass. The few PC games I have lag like no tomorrow (And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop) and most games available on PCs are available on consoles. The controller of a console had more heft and all the buttons are much closer together for quicker reactions (On a PC you can easily hit the wrong button since the keys are all so small and so close together). One argument I hear for PCs is the mouse being extremley accurate in an FPS but I much prefer the control sticks.

People have different preferences about what systems they wish to play their games on, so just keep in mind that everyone does not think like you.
You sir, are a console elitist. You obviously don't know jack shit about PC's because you claim to have a 'good' laptop...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...


See where this gets us?
 

A Weary Exile

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JTLW said:
wouldyoukindly99 said:
(And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop)
First off, nice laptop != good at playing games.
wouldyoukindly99 said:
The controller of a console had more heft and all the buttons are much closer together for quicker reactions (On a PC you can easily hit the wrong button since the keys are all so small and so close together).
Logic fail.

Now that I have pointed out those little niggles, I understand where you are coming from. However, I tend to disagree. I prefer a mouse and keyboard for RTS and FPS gaming, however I prefer a joypad or suchlike for flying, fighting or racing games. Most consoles don't give me the option of having both for easy switching. For example, Warhawk on the PS3. I love flying the Warhawk with the Dualshock/Sixaxis, but when it comes to the third person shooting? I would prefer if I could switch to my keyboard and mouse instantly.

This is all personal preference, however.
Well I don't play flight sims and RTSs are the only games I have on my PC, but it seems to me that using a mouse waters things down to 'Click that to kill it.'
 

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L33tsauce_Marty said:
wouldyoukindly99 said:
CrysisMcGee said:
Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.
You sir, are a PC elitist.

PCs have the constant updates, what I find to be very akward and boring control scheme, and bugs coming out the ass. The few PC games I have lag like no tomorrow (And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop) and most games available on PCs are available on consoles. The controller of a console had more heft and all the buttons are much closer together for quicker reactions (On a PC you can easily hit the wrong button since the keys are all so small and so close together). One argument I hear for PCs is the mouse being extremley accurate in an FPS but I much prefer the control sticks.

People have different preferences about what systems they wish to play their games on, so just keep in mind that everyone does not think like you.
You sir, are a console elitist. You obviously don't know jack shit about PC's because you claim to have a 'good' laptop...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...


See where this gets us?
Not the most articulate response.

I was merely showing the drawbacks to a PC because the OP unfairly and inaccurately depicted consoles as game systems for caveman, he wrote why he thought PCs were better and I merely offered a counterpoint to show that both systems have their drawbacks and he shouldn't be so quick to raise the PC player master race banner.

And my laptop is 'Good' in fact it's great.
 

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wouldyoukindly99 said:
CrysisMcGee said:
Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.
You sir, are a PC elitist.

PCs have the constant updates, what I find to be very akward and boring control scheme, and bugs coming out the ass. The few PC games I have lag like no tomorrow (And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop) and most games available on PCs are available on consoles. The controller of a console had more heft and all the buttons are much closer together for quicker reactions (On a PC you can easily hit the wrong button since the keys are all so small and so close together). One argument I hear for PCs is the mouse being extremley accurate in an FPS but I much prefer the control sticks.

People have different preferences about what systems they wish to play their games on, so just keep in mind that everyone does not think like you.
You do see the irony or at least the severe humor in your accusation to the original poster and your response right?

If not I'd be fine with explaining. Otherwise I don't want to ruin the joke for anyone else who reads your post.

Note: I saw your response. Apparently you saw the joke, perhaps it was intentional.

Either way making a bunch of unfounded counterpoints to someone elses unfounded points is pretty 24 hour newsy of you.
 

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wouldyoukindly99 said:
The few PC games I have lag like no tomorrow (And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop) and most games available on PCs are available on consoles.
>>And keep in mind that I have an extremley[sic] nice laptop

>>I have an extremley nice laptop

>>nice laptop

>>laptop

Well there's your problem right there, I don't care how extremely 'nice' it is laptops are not meant for gaming. Portability and power don't jive.
 

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Haha, you couldn't be more wrong. You seem like a PC fanboy and you obviously don't own a console.
 

theultimateend

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Heathrow said:
wouldyoukindly99 said:
The few PC games I have lag like no tomorrow (And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop) and most games available on PCs are available on consoles.
>>And keep in mind that I have an extremley[sic] nice laptop

>>I have an extremley nice laptop

>>nice laptop

>>laptop

Well there's your problem right there, I don't care how extremely 'nice' it is laptops are not meant for gaming. Portability and power don't jive.
Well they do but they jive for about 5 to 10 thousand dollars.

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Oh, great. I do so enjoy these threads. They are original and inspiring.
Your sarcasm is OVER 9K!
 

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wouldyoukindly99 said:
L33tsauce_Marty said:
wouldyoukindly99 said:
CrysisMcGee said:
Personally, i think console and PC games need to stay far away from each other. If I want intelligent, lenghty, highly immersive, and very rewarding, I will go with PC.
If I want a game that is just plain fun, I will go with Console.
You sir, are a PC elitist.

PCs have the constant updates, what I find to be very akward and boring control scheme, and bugs coming out the ass. The few PC games I have lag like no tomorrow (And keep in mind that I have an extremley nice laptop) and most games available on PCs are available on consoles. The controller of a console had more heft and all the buttons are much closer together for quicker reactions (On a PC you can easily hit the wrong button since the keys are all so small and so close together). One argument I hear for PCs is the mouse being extremley accurate in an FPS but I much prefer the control sticks.

People have different preferences about what systems they wish to play their games on, so just keep in mind that everyone does not think like you.
You sir, are a console elitist. You obviously don't know jack shit about PC's because you claim to have a 'good' laptop...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...


See where this gets us?
Not the most articulate response.

I was merely showing the drawbacks to a PC because the OP unfairly and inaccurately depicted consoles as game systems for caveman, he wrote why he thought PCs were better and I merely offered a counterpoint to show that both systems have their drawbacks and he shouldn't be so quick to raise the PC player master race banner.

And my laptop is 'Good' in fact it's great.
I was explaining (poorly) that arguing about such things is trivial.
 

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Well since my PC starts to cry if Oblivion is in the same room as it and I reeeally dont want to upgrade my rig every 9.2 seconds i'll stick with my bricky companion the Constant Console.