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brodie21

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if there IS a direct neural interface, then we will have an inception-like problem, with people not able to tell that they are in a game or not....
 

deth2munkies

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I like this concept a lot, I was only able to skim it at the moment, but I'll definitely come back and read and I hope there's a lot more.
 

shogunblade

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This is actually really interesting, not to mention...fun?

I guess my only issue I am having is that I have no idea who James (Portnow) is. I know who his little character is from the show, but otherwise it was a very interesting roundtable.

Plus... Yahtzee Croshaw of 'Zero Punctuation'... using punctuation? It's funny how easy it is to amuse me. I don't know why, but it's kind of jarring.

Anyways, I will definitely come back to read more. This amuses me.
 

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brodie21 said:
if there IS a direct neural interface, then we will have an inception-like problem, with people not able to tell that they are in a game or not....
That's why you would have to have a hud.
 

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More! A thoroughly enjoyable read by some of my favourite and intelligent men about a topic I am passionate about. What is not to like?

Also, a PC gaming topic would be most appreciated. Or as it's said, some discussion on the "sequel machine" like CoD.
 

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good read, does this mean we're getting more of this..?
If some good topics are found I am all for seeing these three have some other 'chats'.
 

Nocta-Aeterna

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Oh, I'd love to read more of these!

As for James Portnow's last point on the immersion of games thorugh motion controls: Ive said it once, and I'll say it again: Upgrade the Kinect's precision so we can use non-tiring combinations of simple hand gestures for spell-casting.
 

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I was just thinking last week that it would be great to see more Escapist crossovers, kinda like Doomsday Acade and the ZP/Unskippable "visit" episodes did back in the day. I look forward to reading more, and seeing if anyone else will add contributions.

That actually brings up an interesting thought: for the occasional episode, could you have an industry guest that Yahtzee, MovieBob, and James could discuss/debate with? I'd love it if we could get Tim Schafer or Jason West in a chat with the Escapist crew....

Actually my dream would be if Bobby Kotick would sit down with them for a video episode, but in the interest of civil discourse, perhaps that should held off for a while. :D
 

MrPrecocious

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My three favourite escapist contributors, Yahtzee, James and Moviebob, together at least. Can't wait for the next installment.
 

Susan Arendt

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Fr said:
anc[is]Dear Escapist, what would you consider your best source of positive reinforcement? Because I want you to continue this behavior.

Yeah, you know, oddly that doesn't really do much for me. So you might want to rethink your approach.
 

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It's interesting how sci-fi gaming is divided between super-active holodecks and super-static gaming matrix style...
 

DarthFennec

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I approve of this and I would like to see more please ^.^
I mostly agree with Yahtzee, we're taking steps backwards from immersive gaming with motion controls. I don't really care for the `finishing move' thing that Bob brought up, I mean when that kind of thing is in a game it just gets in the way for me. I understand what you mean though Bob, I've seen what you're talking about. Specifically, in the Silent Hill games you can always do that final kick or stomp, and watching that has always brought me satisfaction after having trouble with a monster (especially in 3, Heather's stomp is bitchin) but I think if they turned that into a controller shake (or even if they had both the visual stomp and the controller shake together) it would be less immersive for me and therefore less satisfying. On the other hand, I agree with Bob that the mouse-like pointer in the Wii is a very nice addition. I don't like it much when it's used as a camera stick in shooting games etc, because it's easy to go too far or too fast and that becomes a problem, but when integrated into a menu system it's always a great touch.
 

Sonicron

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And this is one of the main reasons why I love The Escapist: Just when you think you've seen it all, they wheel out something new and incredibly shiny to tickle your brain.

Moar pleeze.
 

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ROFL

I was reading this, and though "w00t, they're agreeing! Unbelievable!". Then i click on next page, and what i see? "Blimey, we're agreeing with each other a lot."
 

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I think what I just saw was three very different personalities running full-tilt into one of those walls that they won't surmount. Yahtzee said something about how getting physical pulls him out of the experience, while Bob was pointing out that it drew him further in. Somehow, that doesn't surprise me.

I've seen pictures of both of these Internet personalities (I'm sure you all have too), and I've noticed that Yahtzee is kind of small. He's thin, almost frail looking. Whereas Bob (much like myself) is just a big dude. Not really overweight, at least not medically (please note that I'm projecting, he may well have more than simple cosmetic weight problems, but he doesn't seem to, at least to me), but just big.

Over-generalization inbound: small guys tend to be less physical than big guys. Yahtzee reminds me of one of my close friends in terms of body type and this friend hates doing physical stuff, prefers mental stimulation. I'm much bigger than he is (taller, heavier, all around bigger) and I tend to prefer physical stimulation to mental.

Perhaps this is where the conversation falls apart, when people fail to take into account purely physical features and body types. Something I've noticed is that I love the Wii. I don't necessarily prefer it to my PS2, per se, but I seek a different kind of stimulation from it. My friend, the one who reminds me of Yahtzee, hates the Wii. He can't stand it, he complains that it's less immersive and less interesting.

I don't know if I'm making a point here, but it just kind of struck me as interesting that these two people who are so very, very different physically hold such very, very different views on something physical.

On a completely unrelated note, it kind of felt like the conversation was really just between Bob and Yahtzee, and James was kind of just....there. This makes me a sad panda. :<