Cop Tasers Fleeing Handcuffed Girl, Head injuries put her in vegetative state
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
i got 99 problems but a twitchy ***** aint one!
dont run from the cops ***** and you wont end up in a comma and wake up to a court hearing for trying to resist arrest.
i got 99 problems but a twitchy ***** aint one!
dont run from the cops ***** and you wont end up in a comma and wake up to a court hearing for trying to resist arrest.
It isn't a police officers job to catch people that are running? Police have been catching criminals for decades without tasers, and people respected them for it. Once tasers became part of their armament, so many of them have just become fat, lazy slobs who rely on it for every single thing that happens. They don't have jobs anymore, they have tasers.Aris Khandr said:
As for having the tool to stop someone immediately, rather than burning some donuts and chasing, that also applies to their handguns. Why chase them when you can fire a bullet into the back of their head for significantly less effort? Money wouldn't even have to be spent on incarceration.
/facepalmPyro Paul said:
Have you ever tried to grab someone running away from you? I see that you didn't. I have grabbed and was grabbed while on run in quite few different ways(It's called growing up without video games). You can't just twist your torso to break free when you are grabbed above your elbow while RUNNING. Add that she was handcuffed. Explanation - in grab weakest point is thumb. Grab her left arm above elbow with your right hand. Are you saying your hand will slip because it's hard to hold on something round and fat? Have you seen woman that weights 45kg? SKINNY. That huge cop would have gotten perfect grip on her hand. BUT! If his hand would have slipped somehow and he released her - she would not have escaped custody - she would have fallen on ground (My guess she would have gotten less injuries from such fall because - well tazer kinda paralyses you muscles for a second and you cant prepare for a fall. On the other hand she was on drugs.).
"idiotic statement" I just like when someone knows that he/she/it have no knowledge on subject and goes straight for insults. Are you american by any chance?
Except for the part where she was outrunning him, very clearly, and heading for a busy interstate...FamoFunk said:
Whatever. Anything to hate the cops, I guess.
I don't hate the cops, actually. I did say people, not me.SickBritKid said:
I just agree with him being a stupid, lazy one who has now ruined a life, because you know, a lot of people run from the cops when they're in trouble without needing to be tasered or even shot.
What?! A cop used excessive force because no one took the time to explain to them that tazers are dangerous weapons and not toys?! NOOOO!! Next you'll be telling me the sky is blue!
Sorry. It's just that this isn't anywhere near the worst instance of abuse with those fucking things i've heard. I remember one story about a cop in Oklahoma tazing someone in diabetic shock, a story about police tazing a grandparent who didn't want to take meds, and of course the infamous BART cop who murdered someone but got away with it because he was "Reaching for his tazer."
Lets face it, between our police and our politicians, America is totally fucked.
Sorry. It's just that this isn't anywhere near the worst instance of abuse with those fucking things i've heard. I remember one story about a cop in Oklahoma tazing someone in diabetic shock, a story about police tazing a grandparent who didn't want to take meds, and of course the infamous BART cop who murdered someone but got away with it because he was "Reaching for his tazer."
Lets face it, between our police and our politicians, America is totally fucked.
the problem with your statement is that you're basing it off the assumption that the clasp of his hand can fully encase her upper arm. Much like an Adult grabbing a childs arm. But she is a full grown adult. The average Upper arm circumfrance for a female of her body type (less then 100 lbs) would be 23-25 cm. The average maximal grip circumfrance of an adult male of his size (+200 lbs) is aproximatly 18-20 cm and thats being Generious because many other factors come into play.Arkaniack said:
His hand will slip because it is impossible for him to lock his hand completely around her arm. This coupled with the fact that with loose skin tissue and muscle (the arm is in a relaxed position) it will be impossible to keep his grip on that arm even if he did grab it as any force applied to free it would most likely do just that.
The individual is Handcuffed in the Front.
No one would of been able to get a 'perfect grip on her hand'...
And no she wouldn't of 'fallen on the ground' from having her arm gripped.
You see, the Upper arm really isn't a good target if you're trying to manipulate some one. A rather solid bone surrounded by muscle tissue which only controls the lower arm. It isn't like the Wrist which if manipulated properly can control the Entire arm and most of the back. And because it is mostly skeletal muscle, it is generally hard to apply a suggnificant amount of pain to incapacitate them.
The most you could hope for is pinching nerves, but that only deminishes an individuals capacity to fight because it only effects the lower arm (and not all that much mind you). Even with nerve pinching, you would only really do it to free yourself from some type of grapple or hold.
What would of happened is that she would of twisted her torso away, pulling her arm forward. This would hyperextend the hand and arm gripping her. This action would send him off balance and provide enough torque to free her arm from his grip. Even if she did fall, she would of stumbled several feet before acctually falling. The distance between the two would be larger and she would be in a better position to stand up and run again then he would be.
In those situations, the cops are chasing criminals across open spans, where his better stamina(even the fattest cops generally have excellent stamina, on the whole) would outlast her coked-up adrenaline that was pushing her to outrun him.FamoFunk said:
However, he had to act immediately because she was running for a busy interstate, where she would've most definitely wound up decorating some motorist's hood. So he chose the option that had the LOWEST CHANCE of any lasting harm.
Unfortunately, it was one of those 2% instances of a taser actually having near-lethal effect.
1. Braindead =/= dead.Blablahb said:
2. You have no fuckin' idea what you're talking about. "Sociopath?" "Kill?" A cop DOING HIS GODDAMN JOB is murder to you!?
3. What rules? The guy followed procedure by the book: When you in a situation where you might lose a suspect, the safest option is to draw your taser and incapacitate them. Tasers have a VERY small margin of error. 2% chance of horrible injury by them. This, simply, was one of those times, and it sucks but it's true.
4. "Got away"? SHE WAS RUNNING FOR A BUSY INTERSTATE! Had it not been for the cop tasing her, the woman would've wound up like the dude in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB81_CoOjsY&t=1m16s
But dead. And not braindead either, which has a chance for recovery. D-E-A-D dead.
I understand the points you're bringing up, but you're making your debate less accessible by jumping to such extremes all the time.Blablahb said:
You act as if this cop's intent was to murder this woman. If that were the case, he would have reached for his gun. The fact that he used the tazer gives me a good glimpse into his decision making.
Second, the part I bolded, he didn't imply she was suicidal. From what I can gather, she was coked up and her decision making would clearly have been impaired in that case. I'm sure the cop saw this a potential threat to anyone driving on the highway, as I would have.