Copyright Lawyers Sue Lawyer Who Helped Copyright Defendants
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And if anyone objects to polluting existing oceans with lawyers, fuck it, I´ll dig you a new one.One of Many said:
Totally worth the effort.
LOL! That actually IS disturbing...that was Uwe Boll again, wasnt it? And Till Schweiger...*gross*Agiel7 said:
OT: I find it pretty disgusting what the USCG/their lawyers are trying to do. Sue people for illegal downloads, ok...not my choice of action, not the amount of money I would sue for, but I guess its in their rights to do so. But actively trying to prevent people from defending themselves? Thats just a real *****-move...
If the reviews are to be believed, they punished themselves by watching it.zombie711 said:
OT: The most laughable part of this to me is that this lawyer is pretty much giving information to throw doubt into the Copyright lawyer's cases, which means they were built on shaky ground to begin with. This isn't justice, it's a scam, and this lawyer is being a bro by showing everyone the scam before they get hurt by it.
It's like having actual cons suing that one show I watched (forgot its name) where they show how con artists work.
I admire this man's balls and money making skills.
I also admire him for standing up to somewhat wrongheaded bullying tactics. Sending letters to people saying 'you owe us $2500 and we'll take you to court if you don't pay,' is going to do bugger all about piracy. It doesn't sound like a very viable method to start a court case by either, especially if the evidence they intend to file is as bad as their diplomacy.
Threatening the people at the end of the chain is utterly pointless, they should be tracking down the ones in charge of the sites, which of course they won't do because these people have enough money to defend themselves or are well out of the USCG's reach.
That a $10 mail order pack can foil a lawsuit says far more about the people filing the suit than the dude selling the pack. Which is a shame, I can't help but feel I'm rooting for the bad guys here.
I also admire him for standing up to somewhat wrongheaded bullying tactics. Sending letters to people saying 'you owe us $2500 and we'll take you to court if you don't pay,' is going to do bugger all about piracy. It doesn't sound like a very viable method to start a court case by either, especially if the evidence they intend to file is as bad as their diplomacy.
Threatening the people at the end of the chain is utterly pointless, they should be tracking down the ones in charge of the sites, which of course they won't do because these people have enough money to defend themselves or are well out of the USCG's reach.
That a $10 mail order pack can foil a lawsuit says far more about the people filing the suit than the dude selling the pack. Which is a shame, I can't help but feel I'm rooting for the bad guys here.
Woah, he's like Atticus Finch.
I can't imagine how they think they can sue him for looking out for his clients best interests, without ripping them off.
"This is completely insane," he told TorrentFreak. "If 19 cases costs them $5000 in attorney time, I wonder how many cases it'd take before their business model crumbles. That is unless they are going to actually work for a living."
That sounds about right. He's dealing with crooks, they want to scare money out of people.
I can't imagine how they think they can sue him for looking out for his clients best interests, without ripping them off.
"This is completely insane," he told TorrentFreak. "If 19 cases costs them $5000 in attorney time, I wonder how many cases it'd take before their business model crumbles. That is unless they are going to actually work for a living."
That sounds about right. He's dealing with crooks, they want to scare money out of people.
wow and here i was thinking lawyers couldn't be bigger douchefucks. Now as someone (electrical enginner) who is completely oblivious to [copyright] laws i think this probably all a bunch of bullshit and if a sane person would be handling that case, he should laugh in their douchefuck attorney faces
This is why there aren't any good lawyers left. As soon as one shows up, the other lawyers sue him/her out of existence.
Almost. USCG is one of those "companies" that make money by "speculative invoicing". Which basically means sending messages saying "We can convince a judge that you pirated XYZ, Pay us $5000 or we'll have a court destroy your life." to random people, guilty or not. So then you either pay them or spend 10 times as much on court fees getting the charges dropped.TMAN10112 said:
So they're blackmailing people at random(figures range from 20% to 3% amount of pirates total, let alone people who specifically downloaded the content named in the letter) and they're suing somebody who's educating people on how to prove their innocence with a $20 book instead of $200000 in lawyer fees.
I don't get this one overall, fundementally what this guy did was charge for legal advice/consultation. He just put the information down on paper and sold that, rather than arranging a face to face meeting. Lawyers charge for legal advice and consultation all the time, it's what they do. I fail to see how a case could be made out of this at all, and I'm usually pretty good at looking at things from all kinds of wierd angles and perspectives.
The best precedent I could come up with is that they are argueing that he's acting as a representitive without being on record/comissioned as one. There are tons of problems with an arguement like that however.
The best precedent I could come up with is that they are argueing that he's acting as a representitive without being on record/comissioned as one. There are tons of problems with an arguement like that however.