That didn't occur to me, actually! But I am reading The Fault In Our Stars right now, so maybe it was subconscious.Quaxar said:
Corvo Is Not An Honorable Man
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So it seems that Arkane did a lot more research than I thought. Thanks for the read 
NinjaDeathSlap said:
Considering Emily's the heir to the throne, the only options Corvo had after killing the loyalists was to either kill her or letting her rule. If we take into account the close relationship Corvo had with Emily (not to mention the fact that she might be his daughter), killing her is something he would never think of doing. The best course of action was to act as a councelor for her. Judging by The Outsider's narration, it's possible that Corvo never saw himself as anything as her advisor an guardian, and never thought of using her to rule the country. It may not sound heroic under normal circumstances, but it was the best course of action given the decaying state of Dunwall
Never mind the underhanded murdering or the knocking unconciousing, what kind of bastard waltzes into someone else's house and eats all the jellied eels?
I want to finish Dishonored without stealing anything, on top of not killing anyone or being spotted. But I think that's impossible, due to the way the game auto loots certain people that you have to pick up.
I want to finish Dishonored without stealing anything, on top of not killing anyone or being spotted. But I think that's impossible, due to the way the game auto loots certain people that you have to pick up.
I imagine they excused that with a lovely bit of circular logic. One doesnt need to be a gentleman to someone who isnt a gentleman. Corvo lost his status as a gentleman and further ruined it by doing our dirty work. If a slave spits at them they would execute them, not duel them or offer them gentlemanly rights. The honor aspect as another side, and that is how FAR below you is the person who implied you have no honor or offended you. Do they matter? Is it even worth respecting their right to a duel? Of COURSE your slaves and servants hate you. It doesnt offend you because they are never, even for a second, meant to feel like your equal and should they offend you it doesnt matter since you own total power anyway, their symbolic resistance means nothing since it has no social status behind it. However should another gentleman imply they look down on you that is offensive because the insult comes from someone who matters and youre meant to be equals.NinjaDeathSlap said:
By poisoning corvo i think they imply that he has fallen SO far he no longer merits gentlemanly honors. He is a mere servant or slave.
The circular logic is that they dump all the dishonorable actions onto corvo THEN damn him and remove his rights as a gentleman because he commited said dishonorable actions.
Hm. Interesting. I like it particularly because it does fit very well with pretty much everything that happens in the game... but then the loyalists poison you. Hard to be more dishonourable than that. Then again, it's only dishonourable if people find out, which I guess was not the intention.
3 pages? TL;DR
Ah, subjective tie-ins of real-life/history to games. Wonderfully done, in this case. It's been said above, but it's a rare treat to get an article like this when most of what we read is simply news bulletins and purely editorial content.
I wonder how this reflects on Emily's ensuing reign. Is she a trail-blazer, doing away with the caste system? Or is she (more likely from her in-game dialogue) merely ignoring Corvo's actions out of congeniality?
Ah, subjective tie-ins of real-life/history to games. Wonderfully done, in this case. It's been said above, but it's a rare treat to get an article like this when most of what we read is simply news bulletins and purely editorial content.
I wonder how this reflects on Emily's ensuing reign. Is she a trail-blazer, doing away with the caste system? Or is she (more likely from her in-game dialogue) merely ignoring Corvo's actions out of congeniality?
I had to skip portions of the article, as I have only finished a few levels of Dishonored and didn't want to spoil anything (which sadly happened anyway by going through these posts), but it was an excellent read. I loved seeing these cultural aspects used in the game (whether intended or just a magical lucky fit, I don't know).
I figured Corvo to be a type of nobility or upper-class as well. An empress wouldn't just send a random servant on an important courier mission unless it was something of the utmost secrecy, in which case a trusted servant may be used to deliver correspondence. But everyone seemed to know Corvo was gone and it appeared to me that he had the authority to speak for the Empress during negotiations with the foreign rulers.
It was also very interesting to see the ins and outs of the English gentleman honor system, which I knew a little bit about from other reading, but did not fully know the depths of it. Hope to see more articles like this.
I figured Corvo to be a type of nobility or upper-class as well. An empress wouldn't just send a random servant on an important courier mission unless it was something of the utmost secrecy, in which case a trusted servant may be used to deliver correspondence. But everyone seemed to know Corvo was gone and it appeared to me that he had the authority to speak for the Empress during negotiations with the foreign rulers.
It was also very interesting to see the ins and outs of the English gentleman honor system, which I knew a little bit about from other reading, but did not fully know the depths of it. Hope to see more articles like this.
Maybe it was a joke. If it is, then ignore the following. "TL;DR" is a very rude thing to do, even if it's your own text, but moreso when it's someone else's work. One that on the next sentence you praise and highlight above buffer content. This and all of Mr. Cath's articles are essays well worth reading in full, and we should not incite cliff-notes mentality of them. Don't be that guy.RobfromtheGulag said:
Aristocrats? The hedonistic weirdos? Of course they have no honor!
http://youtu.be/tw10xa_xtNg?t=1m33s
http://youtu.be/tw10xa_xtNg?t=1m33s
Corvo is not an honourable man....and PROUD!
Although it may be because I myself have Mediterranean background, I think the vendetta preserves honour far better than the English duel. Why? Because a man who wrongs your family, and challenged to a duel only fails if he is beaten. See, within the system, you dying in the duel is still more honourable than vengeance/justice for your family, which I can disagree with. A man of honour does put his honour above all else, yes, but a man who allows himself to die before paying his enemy back, rightly so I might add, has lost his honour, because he leaves a family that depends on him to perish without him, solely to preserve his image.
And that's the point isn't it? Image and Honour are not so akin as the English "Gentlemen" say it is, though what else would you expect from Elitist aristocrats who considered themselves above everyone, not just commoners, but the Gentlemen of other cultures....seriously...
Although it may be because I myself have Mediterranean background, I think the vendetta preserves honour far better than the English duel. Why? Because a man who wrongs your family, and challenged to a duel only fails if he is beaten. See, within the system, you dying in the duel is still more honourable than vengeance/justice for your family, which I can disagree with. A man of honour does put his honour above all else, yes, but a man who allows himself to die before paying his enemy back, rightly so I might add, has lost his honour, because he leaves a family that depends on him to perish without him, solely to preserve his image.
And that's the point isn't it? Image and Honour are not so akin as the English "Gentlemen" say it is, though what else would you expect from Elitist aristocrats who considered themselves above everyone, not just commoners, but the Gentlemen of other cultures....seriously...
An excellent article and a very interesting comparison.
It's also always nice to see Thomas Plunkett and the 95th Rifles crop up.
It's also always nice to see Thomas Plunkett and the 95th Rifles crop up.
This article caught my eye and caused me to stray away from my usual corner of the Escapist and I'm rather pleased it did. Fair play to you for the well thought out and evidently well researched article. While I picked up on a few of the things you mentioned it seems I overlooked quite a bit.
Had you approached the topic with the opinion that your interpretation was perfect I would have been somewhat reluctant in my embracing of the piece, but your acknowledgement of your interpretations limitations is rather refreshing. I'll be sure to loiter around the Critical Intel section more often.
Had you approached the topic with the opinion that your interpretation was perfect I would have been somewhat reluctant in my embracing of the piece, but your acknowledgement of your interpretations limitations is rather refreshing. I'll be sure to loiter around the Critical Intel section more often.