Could the United States be invaded?
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Hahaha, better. Well, yeah, you're american. My Apologies fine sir for insulting the great and awesome united states of america.paypuh said:
EDIT: Also, I think you're brainwashed twats.
Actually, the limeys invaded the U.S. again during the War of 1812 (they even burnt down the original White House), the Civil War and the Mexican/Spanish-American War after that.BoneCrusherBOB said:
konkwastaken said:Yeah but the SAS are the shit.keyton777 said:
answer the question, im guessing your SAS guys would be found out b4 they even hit our military bases, that is a lot of heavily populated ground to cover, and someone is going to notice a string of dead people.
1st point (sorry for the necro bump I just think this is an interesting topic)paypuh said:
This has been brought up a lot in the past few posts. Civilians;with guns; defending our country. Now I don't want to sound unpatriotic here. but would you take a gun by yourself and run outside to get shot dead by the invading army who have much much much more sophisticated weaponry than you? I personally wouldn't. the only way that would be effective would be if all so called patriot could group up and communicate, and if the city is occupied by enemy soldiers, then the civilians cannot get through the streets.
War is for soldiers. When France was invaded in World War II there was no massive uprising. they did not take to the streets in armed groups. they stayed in their homes because that was the best fucking way to live! just imagine a group of rednecks with a pistol, a shotgun, and maybe some hunting rifles between them vs. a combat regiment and I wouldn't even bet a penny on the rednecks. Civilians should do what is right and not die. and that entails staying in their home and not getting shot in the street.
satelite imagery may help locate the opposing army, but how quickly can you get our armies to that location before they move on? this isn't a football field, this is the whole united states! it would take hours by plane and days, if not weeks, by truck. by that point the enemy could have spread out and permeated their target area thereby making full identification impossible
also: trench warfare? really? where would they dig the trenchs? blast them out of the ground? why in gods name would they WANT to build trenches? when statistically you would be facing a guerilla based mobile army. the army could just go around and could skip that particular city or town? you need a mobile army for defense unless you are trying to protect one specific city. trench warfare for any other reason would waste time, explosives and energy, as well as being ultimately futile.
I'm guessing that if the EU pulls together America is pretty much gonna be screwed.
All I can say is that I have a history with working with the British Royal Army, the Dutch Royal Army and the French and German armies and they've got some technology up their sleeves that is EU only. Lets just say we got what it takes to take your stealth bombers down, enough said.
All I can say is that I have a history with working with the British Royal Army, the Dutch Royal Army and the French and German armies and they've got some technology up their sleeves that is EU only. Lets just say we got what it takes to take your stealth bombers down, enough said.
Here are the facts, you think Afghanistan or Vietnam was bad? The USA is estimated to have over 80 million gun owners, this is an estimate because in the US, most states allow you to freely buy and sell rifles and shotguns without having to report it to the government. These 80 million gun owners are in possession of over 300 million firearms, thats enough to arm just about every man women and baby in the country. This 300 million doesn't even take into consideration the number of weapons transported into America illegally which is also substantial. Furthermore of all of the new weapons manufactured in the world each year, Americans buy over half of them. Thats a lot of armed citizens. To put this into perspective, the entire population of the UK is roughly 61 million, this includes every soldier, man, women and child in the country. Their ENTIRE population doesn't even match the amount of armed citizens in the US, let alone the US Military.
I know a lot of people like to talk about China as being a threat, but they really are not. YES they have good technology, YES they have a HUGE population and military, but NO they still would not win in an invasion against the USA. Here's why. Right now their military has been estimated to be around 4-7 million, which is quite large. They have another 300 million people that are of the correct age to fight in a war, which means they could probably drum up another 10 million if they needed to without hurting their economy to bad. Even this would put them at 17 million vs a minimum of 80 million armed citizens. This is NOT EVEN CONSIDERING the United States Military and our advanced technology. Assuming the entire US Military just disappeared, they would still be screwed trying to invade the USA and holding onto it. Another problem is logistics, they simply dont have the resources to move that many troops around and to keep them all fed and supplied. You do not need to worry about anyone invading the United States. The only two things you need to worry about is 1. A nuclear strike against the United States, which unfortunately would result in the automated launch of our nuclear weapons creating an instant doomsday scenario, or 2. The United States destroying itself from within, which at present, is by far the most likely scenario.
I know a lot of people like to talk about China as being a threat, but they really are not. YES they have good technology, YES they have a HUGE population and military, but NO they still would not win in an invasion against the USA. Here's why. Right now their military has been estimated to be around 4-7 million, which is quite large. They have another 300 million people that are of the correct age to fight in a war, which means they could probably drum up another 10 million if they needed to without hurting their economy to bad. Even this would put them at 17 million vs a minimum of 80 million armed citizens. This is NOT EVEN CONSIDERING the United States Military and our advanced technology. Assuming the entire US Military just disappeared, they would still be screwed trying to invade the USA and holding onto it. Another problem is logistics, they simply dont have the resources to move that many troops around and to keep them all fed and supplied. You do not need to worry about anyone invading the United States. The only two things you need to worry about is 1. A nuclear strike against the United States, which unfortunately would result in the automated launch of our nuclear weapons creating an instant doomsday scenario, or 2. The United States destroying itself from within, which at present, is by far the most likely scenario.
Look, I understand your perspective, but you need to recognize the major differences in the situation here. First of all, if the Chinese invaded, they wouldn't be better armed than a lot of Americans. The Chinese military uses AK-47's which are notoriously inaccurate and one of the cheapest weapons available. Most American gun owners I know have AR-15's, M1 Carbines, Shotguns, and even 50 cal sniper rifles. I know a lot of people with AK's too, but those are the type of rifles people buy after they already own a few other weapons. The truth is Americans are buying a lot of new weapons every year. (See my first post above)thewerebuffalo said:
We also have large militia groups throughout the US, and you can bet membership would grow rapidly if we were invaded. Look at how much trouble it is in Iraq and Afghanistan, and those countries dont even register when compared to the United States for gun ownership (again see my first post above). But the real reason is logistics, an invasion of that magnitude could not be sustained. And I won't even get into the financial implications of invading the US. With so many currency's pegged to the dollar and comsidering the fact that China receives most of its raw resources from us, its just not feasable. Could it be done? Theoretically yes, but in reality, no. The losses would be astounding, literally unimagineable, and if Nuclear weapons were involved, the survivors (assuming there were some) would be fighting each other with rocks over scraps of food while doing drivebys on bicycles. Even without Nukes, the global financial system would collapse leading to mass starvations as countries stop trading with each other. Countries would begin to ration food supplies and soldiers would instantly begin to mutiny. Citizens of the countries that participated in the invasion would feel it worst of all and there would be a global outcry against "the war". Smaller nations whose welfare depends on the United States would be up in arms, if not literally, then publically and in the media. It would be the worst imagineable situation, totally unprecedented by anything in history.
The only reason Hitler got so far is because he was able to control the media and Germany was not tied into the global community nearly as much as countries are today. Today, with the internet it would be impossible to hide the true devastation of the situation. Something people also dont know about Germany in WWII is that their economy was in complete shambles by the end of the was, and they were a very self sufficient nation at the time needing to rely on very little external trade for the things they needed. Sorry but as I said before, the only real threat to the United States is a threat from within.