Could you be a hero?
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I'd be like a Hancock.
Only come in and help when i have nothing better to do with my pathetic life.
But that also depends on my powers, and how limited they were.
Only come in and help when i have nothing better to do with my pathetic life.
But that also depends on my powers, and how limited they were.
All the people in this thread saying they'd be evil in this situation are kidding themselves.
It takes a lot more balls to kill someone for personal gain in real life than it does in a game.
Both being a villain and being a hero take an equal amount of courage to begin with. The difference is that being the villain is easy, once you've gotten past your basic human kindnesses.
I'm not a wuss and don't take the easy path, so I'd be a hero.
It takes a lot more balls to kill someone for personal gain in real life than it does in a game.
Both being a villain and being a hero take an equal amount of courage to begin with. The difference is that being the villain is easy, once you've gotten past your basic human kindnesses.
I'm not a wuss and don't take the easy path, so I'd be a hero.
I'd have the mask on before 9 and out saving the day before 10!
If I was really powerful, I'm talking Superman/The Flash/Green Lantern levels of power, I'd probably go topple a few of the world's less pleasant dictators and just playing enforcer to some trouble spots.
If I had minor powers I'd probably test them for a while and then put myself forward to the secret services to use me properly. I figure a lone man can't really do much against 'crime' in the UK as it'd be kind of hard to get around quickly on patrol.
If I was really powerful, I'm talking Superman/The Flash/Green Lantern levels of power, I'd probably go topple a few of the world's less pleasant dictators and just playing enforcer to some trouble spots.
If I had minor powers I'd probably test them for a while and then put myself forward to the secret services to use me properly. I figure a lone man can't really do much against 'crime' in the UK as it'd be kind of hard to get around quickly on patrol.
If you have superpowers ala superman then the real world becomes a game ;D
personally id rob "a few" banks, take over russia/china/usa or bust a UN conferance before my attempt to conquer the universe. Why yes a fight between superpowers is fun unless the entity i fight is vastly superior. Then id retreat if possible and plot revenge.
Uniting the world isnt evil. Its for a common good. Trade routes wouldnt require tax. People would be able to cross boarders without a passport. Official religious buildings and sites would be destroyed. People protesting would be shot or obliderated by my gravity defined powers.
Id murder every religious leader and level any religious building to the earth. Noone would be able to oppose my rule and the only ones not seeing my brilliance would die.
My only problem would be immortality. That would be one of the best superpowers to combine with the ability to manipulate gravity ever but its faar to op.
personally id rob "a few" banks, take over russia/china/usa or bust a UN conferance before my attempt to conquer the universe. Why yes a fight between superpowers is fun unless the entity i fight is vastly superior. Then id retreat if possible and plot revenge.
Uniting the world isnt evil. Its for a common good. Trade routes wouldnt require tax. People would be able to cross boarders without a passport. Official religious buildings and sites would be destroyed. People protesting would be shot or obliderated by my gravity defined powers.
Id murder every religious leader and level any religious building to the earth. Noone would be able to oppose my rule and the only ones not seeing my brilliance would die.
My only problem would be immortality. That would be one of the best superpowers to combine with the ability to manipulate gravity ever but its faar to op.
I sense I'd veer over to the side of good, but try to keep it quiet, tho before I did that I'd certainly try to find someone stupidly rich to rob a big heap of cash from, someone who it wouldnt affect much.
Once I was suitably comfortable I could go around helping people on the quiet, but I'd hate to get known and once you're known, you're expected to do stuff.
Depends on what my powers are:
If I had infinite powers, I'd send a huge image of myself into the sky with a big grey beard on and appear in each country at a media hotspot, tear apart the clouds and say 'I am your God! Not the Christian God or Hindu or Muslim, just the God, and I am very disappointed, you've all got it wrong, I just wanted you all to get along and be good to each other and help the weak, all these religions are just confusing the issue, now stop messing about and go help some poor and sick people! Oh and women, gays, and foreigners are just as good as you lot too, so stop that, too!'
Hell in fact, with enough power, I could model myself as God, and appear on TV to be interviewed and twist everything back to being about being good! I already have my excuse as to why I let suffering happen - 'Well my power is directly based on the number of people who truly believe in me, and that's a tiny tiny figure, I tell you.'
Not trying to twist this into a religious issue, but it'd be an interesting way to try to fix a bunch of the world's problems.
IF I had limited powers I think I'd end up a petty super criminal just robbing places I felt wouldn't suffer too much, and living nicely on my free money!
Once I was suitably comfortable I could go around helping people on the quiet, but I'd hate to get known and once you're known, you're expected to do stuff.
Depends on what my powers are:
If I had infinite powers, I'd send a huge image of myself into the sky with a big grey beard on and appear in each country at a media hotspot, tear apart the clouds and say 'I am your God! Not the Christian God or Hindu or Muslim, just the God, and I am very disappointed, you've all got it wrong, I just wanted you all to get along and be good to each other and help the weak, all these religions are just confusing the issue, now stop messing about and go help some poor and sick people! Oh and women, gays, and foreigners are just as good as you lot too, so stop that, too!'
Hell in fact, with enough power, I could model myself as God, and appear on TV to be interviewed and twist everything back to being about being good! I already have my excuse as to why I let suffering happen - 'Well my power is directly based on the number of people who truly believe in me, and that's a tiny tiny figure, I tell you.'
Not trying to twist this into a religious issue, but it'd be an interesting way to try to fix a bunch of the world's problems.
IF I had limited powers I think I'd end up a petty super criminal just robbing places I felt wouldn't suffer too much, and living nicely on my free money!
Id be the best damn quarter back of all time. Regularly throwing 80 yard TDs, scrambling like Michael Vick being chased by PETA members, no one would sack me. Line backer causing trouble for my team? One incomplete pass and he'd be stretchered off.
Id be remembered as a legend, become famous, stinking rich and probably die from a combination of venereal diseases.
Id be remembered as a legend, become famous, stinking rich and probably die from a combination of venereal diseases.
There is a natural kindness in every human heart that halts one from doing deeds such as the killing of another man. Are you telling me you've met plenty of people who think nothing of killing others? Exactly what I was saying - they're either on the battlefield, in a gang that sane people don't go near, complete sociopaths or they don't exist. That would mean that most people, given the power to kill, don't use it except when they have to.
Being a villain becomes easier later, when one has descended into complete psychosis - becoming a villain is a harder thing to do. It involves tainting the self that was otherwise sane.
"Most people here wouldn't be so evil." My sentiments exactly. I would suggest that we have had a misunderstanding.
We are talking about a hypothetical here. This is hardly something that requires experience.
Of course it's harder to kill someone in real life. You're staring a real person in the face, and real consequences. Hell, even in GTA you can get back up if you get shot by a cop. Being a vigilante has both moral and practical challenges, which is why so many of them end up with five or six gunshot wounds, or 20 years in the slammer.
The word "courage" has a moral stigma, but I wasn't referring to it in that way. I was simply referring to the guts it takes to shoot someone in the face and destroy your own sense of self in the process. Many, many types of fiction have been written about this kind of self--and-others destructive behaviour, about the tainting of the soul or the moral self. There's a good reason for that. That's how it works. When you kill someone, you go through all sorts of guilt trips. Ask any psychologist who's worked on soldiers, or rehabilitated convicts.
I don't need to know your opinion or judgment of myself from a gutsy post I made on an internet forum.
How about this. When you have saved three lives with your own life, then you may have the right to judge me. Until then, I'll just have to say: catch up in the race before bragging about finishing first. Because you are almost certainly behind.
Indeed, and I was making a comment precisely on the consequences, and their weight, on someone who does a seriously wrong action. You have merely misunderstood me, my friend. I don't need a flame war with you.
Because it's the right thing to do. Because you have been socialised to act in a morally correct way. Because you cannot bring yourself to kill people for whatever you may desire. In any case, having superpowers can also mean that getting things without killing is still easier than getting those same things is for a normal person. That fact in and of itself could easily be the tie-breaker.
You've been reading too much Freud. The reason why we consider not being evil the default, or sanity, is because the majority is sane. If the majority was not sane, then the whole point of the word, "sanity" would be lost. Selflessness is a part of human nature as well, depending on the society. That is why we have both the individualist and collectivist names for differing societies. If you are too heavily exposed to Western individualist culture you may generalise that human nature is basically selfish. You may say exactly the opposite if you'd lived in an Eastern collectivist culture. Both are subjective. But kindness is neither selfless or selfish. It benefits both parties, by nurturing goodwill and fostering future relations. This is why it makes sense as a developing survival mechanism of the now.
You're being heavily semantical here. Courage was a bad word, I admit. I didn't mean it in the morally nice sense of Oh Yay The Triforce of Courage Let's Go Save People. I meant guts. I already explained this to the other guy. If you'd read my post above properly, you would have noticed this.
Depends on the powers you have, lets say the abilities of superman... I would probably be a hero but I wouldnt hide my identity or make it public. I would live my life and if anyone tries to cut me up for experiments I'd cut them no but really, I think I would be a hero...
Because sample research is a justified excuse to generalise about the entire human race?
You insult logic. Don't ever call that science again.
Nope, I don't see. A person still needs a particularly large surge of adrenaline or gut feeling to overpower the leashes that keep them from killing people in ordinary situations. You can evade that point all you want but it's still a fact. There may be a "selfish base" for that surge, as you put it, perhaps, but that doesn't remove the truth from what I've said.
Being good and evil is not so easy to determine. Even a good guy can kill someone, and even a bad guy can save someone.
True evil hates everything, but themselves. They just want to watch the world burn. Like Heath Ledgers Joker. He didn't want money to be rich. He just needed money to get the supplies he needed. As he says "You know what they all have in common...they're cheap."
An anti-hero is an even more difficult thing to describe. Riddick is an anti-hero. They never get into fights unless they need to and usually they have soft spots for some people, but they are not a real hero. They can do bad things just as villains can, but they do it for self-gain. They could kill anyone but they don't see it as profitable or they see it as a waste of time.
I would want to be an anti-hero so I can do anything I wanted and still be a hero if I wanted to be. Like Deadpool.
True evil hates everything, but themselves. They just want to watch the world burn. Like Heath Ledgers Joker. He didn't want money to be rich. He just needed money to get the supplies he needed. As he says "You know what they all have in common...they're cheap."
An anti-hero is an even more difficult thing to describe. Riddick is an anti-hero. They never get into fights unless they need to and usually they have soft spots for some people, but they are not a real hero. They can do bad things just as villains can, but they do it for self-gain. They could kill anyone but they don't see it as profitable or they see it as a waste of time.
I would want to be an anti-hero so I can do anything I wanted and still be a hero if I wanted to be. Like Deadpool.
It does warrant that? You have yet to justify that in any way. Social phenomenon differ from physical phenomenon because of the unpredictable nature of brain dynamics. Neuroscience has yet to reach a unified theory yet, and has been mocked by several scientific circles for its latest failed attempts. If you wish to champion an incomplete theory, knock yourself out.
Yes, I would. I have seen far too many exceptions to your so-called base selfishness of motivation to lose faith in that part of humanity.
Besides which, I have yet to see the use in such information. Even if the base of kindness IS selfish, it doesn't matter if the result is that everyone benefits.