Cracked thinks Nintendo's Lost It

[Da Orky Man]

Thought you said John Cleese for a moment, all interest dropped the second I realised however.

Yeah, I would've never expected such a Spanish Inquisition.

Of course, I must.

Anyway, what's wrong with John Cheese? So he's a comedy writer that uses a depressing life to create laughs. Can't see anything wrong with that.

 

[him over there]

If Nintendo weren't being so completely tight-lipped about the specs I could.

I wonder why they're not releasing them...

Spoiler: Maybe...

...because they suck?

And... that's when you lost all credibility.

"Because they suck"? Really?

While his lack of proof is laughable his insistence that the fact the specs haven't been shown yet could be a sign they aren't exactly impressive is somewhat grounded in reality. Of course it's no substitute for facts but it certainly explains people's uncertainty.

 

[him over there]

While his lack of proof is laughable his insistence that the fact the specs haven't been shown yet could be a sign they aren't exactly impressive is somewhat grounded in reality. Of course it's no substitute for facts but it certainly explains people's uncertainty.

Oh I agree, it is a sign, but we cannot say it is a side-grade until they prove it.

I'm sorry, does my usage of a colloquialism offend you? Fine, then...

I wonder why they're not releasing them...

Spoiler: Maybe...

..because the specs are inadequate, relatively speaking to the potential of the next gen?

As I said above, it is a possibility but we cannot act as if it is a side-grade until the specs are shown.

About the whole tight lipped thing though, while this isn't a normal amount of time is it a normal amount of time for Nintendo? I'm cautiously optimistic it's merely a matter of priorities within the company rather than a sign of failing.

 

[him over there]

About the whole tight lipped thing though, while this isn't a normal amount of time is it a normal amount of time for Nintendo? I'm cautiously optimistic it's merely a matter of priorities within the company rather than a sign of failing.

Yeah, I don't know when companies usually show specs sheets.

I may be wrong but I think this is the first gen when people really cared about the specs of a new console. Before it seemed to be "PS3 is better than xbox lululul" but now more people seem to be taking an interest in what is truly under the bonnet.

If I'm wrong go ahead and say, I'd like to know.

Oh I didn't actually know, I was genuinely asking. But even if it is just a little more than a side grade it will probably do all right, not the mega success of the wii but it will do all right. Some people seem to be saying that only hardcore fans will get it and that casuals will skip it. When people say casuals I assume they mean kids but kids could be fans too. I know my little brother and plenty of his friends are absolutely eager to get it. People say that Nintendo betrayed their core fans but I think they're merely trying to get little kids on bored to make a new generation of them.

About why people suddenly care about specs? I'm not sure, especially since we're just caring about this now yet it's also probably when diminishing returns will be most notable. I think we all care about the specs right now because it will be a sign of what Nintendo's intentions are as far as their marketing goes. If they're too weak they're going after their fans and casuals, if they're impressive they're directly competing with core gamers who already have 360s and PS3s.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Any console that forces me to look at my controller is a failure right out of the gate, but I'm sure it'll sell like hotcakes.

Anyway, I thought the article was a good laugh with some valid points. Especially the whole "Batman: Arkham City on WiiU". Christ, that was embarrassing.

 

[him over there]

Oh I didn't actually know, I was genuinely asking. But even if it is just a little more than a side grade it will probably do all right, not the mega success of the wii but it will do all right. Some people seem to be saying that only hardcore fans will get it and that casuals will skip it. When people say casuals I assume they mean kids but kids could be fans too. I know my little brother and plenty of his friends are absolutely eager to get it. People say that Nintendo betrayed their core fans but I think they're merely trying to get little kids on bored to make a new generation of them.

About why people suddenly care about specs? I'm not sure, especially since we're just caring about this now yet it's also probably when diminishing returns will be most notable. I think we all care about the specs right now because it will be a sign of what Nintendo's intentions are as far as their marketing goes. If they're too weak they're going after their fans and casuals, if they're impressive they're directly competing with core gamers who already have 360s and PS3s.

All I know is I'm a mild PC enthusiast and I'm going to get one.

Probably not their target market, am I right?

Actually from what I've seen a lot of the console gamers are planning on skipping it and some serious pc exclusive gamers have vouched interest in it. I think it has to do with the fact that PCs do everything consoles do but better (save for accessibility) so they don't need a 360 or PS3. But the Wii and Nintendo consoles in general don't offer the same thing as the other 2, they offer a complementary experience.

Also I know absolutely nothing about PCs but would love to get into PC gaming, the only thing holding me back is my total PC illiteracy.

 

[him over there]

Actually from what I've seen a lot of the console gamers are planning on skipping it and some serious pc exclusive gamers have vouched interest in it. I think it has to do with the fact that PCs do everything consoles do but better (save for accessibility) so they don't need a 360 or PS3. But the Wii and Nintendo consoles in general don't offer the same thing as the other 2, they offer a complementary experience.

Also I know absolutely nothing about PCs but would love to get into PC gaming, the only thing holding me back is my total PC illiteracy.

That's exactly why I am getting it. I can play multi-plats on my PC, I'll get the Wii U for those "unique experiences" that you can't get anywhere else.

If you want help with PCs, make a thread or PM me. We at the escapist, will help you however we can.

I think that I'm going to try to sift through some basics before I start asking for help on here. Y'know help myself so people don't have to bother starting at the very beginning. Luckily by next year I should be a bit better because I'm taking a few computing classes at my school, we have the best technical classes and resources in the district.

Also have you heard of the Wiiviewr on youtube? His reviews are sort of hit and miss but he reviews the sort of B/C/D list movie tie in, casual and shovel ware games for the wii. Sort of to prove not to judge a book by its cover.

 

[OldNewNewOld]

All I know is I'm a mild PC enthusiast and I'm going to get one.

Probably not their target market, am I right?

Actually, I've noticed that a big number of PC gamer are also owner of Nintendo system. Which makes a lot of sense.

Out of the big three, Nintendo is the one with the most and best first party titles (according to the opinion of the majority). And at the same time, Nintendo console usually get a different kind of games than the other 2 console, especially since the Wii. You won't see games like Little Kings Story or Red Steel on the PS360. At least not lots of them.

If you already have a PC, getting a PS3 or 360 would be mostly a waste of money. They have only a few exclusives. Most "must have" titles are multi-platform titles. You can play them on the PC.
But you can't play Wii or WiiU games on the PC (without emulating, which is usually buggy and it usually take a lot of time to make an emulator. And if the WiiU is 50% stronger than the 360, you won't get a emulator even in the next generation).

So if you have a PC and want to buy a console, getting a Nintendo console is actually the best choice. You get the best of both world.

I'm a PC gamer and I have a Wii. And the Wii is my favorite console of this generation. I don't miss the so called "hardcore" games since I can get them on my PC and I don't miss great games like The Last Story, Xenoblade Chronicles or any of the Nintendo First Party games on the Wii.

 

[ThunderCavalier]

Normally this would come off as bad... until you realize this was one of Cracked's editorials and not one of their articles.

While the articles are more based on research (though I do hear they get some things wrong at times), the editorials by some of their people like Christina, Seanbaby, and John Cheese, are either:

1) Their life.

2) Their opinions.

3) Their trollings.

4) Their trolling opinions (see: Gladstone).

And such you really can't take any of the editorials that seriously, this one included.

 

[Hazy992]

As it stands now I'm not getting one. There just haven't been enough good games announced for me to justify it yet, and I'm still not sold on that controller.

Maybe I'll change my mind closer to release when they hopefully show some actually decent games.

 

[ChildishLegacy]

Actually, I've noticed that a big number of PC gamer are also owner of Nintendo system. Which makes a lot of sense.

Out of the big three, Nintendo is the one with the most and best first party titles (according to the opinion of the majority). And at the same time, Nintendo console usually get a different kind of games than the other 2 console, especially since the Wii. You won't see games like Little Kings Story or Red Steel on the PS360. At least not lots of them.

If you already have a PC, getting a PS3 or 360 would be mostly a waste of money. They have only a few exclusives. Most "must have" titles are multi-platform titles. You can play them on the PC.
But you can't play Wii or WiiU games on the PC (without emulating, which is usually buggy and it usually take a lot of time to make an emulator. And if the WiiU is 50% stronger than the 360, you won't get a emulator even in the next generation).

So if you have a PC and want to buy a console, getting a Nintendo console is actually the best choice. You get the best of both world.

I'm a PC gamer and I have a Wii. And the Wii is my favorite console of this generation. I don't miss the so called "hardcore" games since I can get them on my PC and I don't miss great games like The Last Story, Xenoblade Chronicles or any of the Nintendo First Party games on the Wii.

Pretty much this, Nintendo consoles are the best consoles to get if you mainly PC game, because you can get the vast majority of 3rd party games that you could get on Xbox/Playstation, for PC. Nintendo 1st party games tend to be the best ones too, I'd take Zelda/Paper Mario/Metroid over Gears of War/Uncharted any day.

I just hope the next game in the demon souls/dark souls series gets onto Wii U if it doesn't make it onto PC.

As it stands now I'm not getting one. There just haven't been enough good games announced for me to justify it yet, and I'm still not sold on that controller.

Maybe I'll change my mind closer to release when they hopefully show some actually decent games.

I'm probably not going to get one straight away, normally if you leave it a couple of months and look at reviews/what people feel like about it after the new console/game goggles wear off, and they still like it, it's worth your money.

 

[mad825]

But you can't play Wii or WiiU games on the PC (without emulating, which is usually buggy and it usually take a lot of time to make an emulator. And if the WiiU is 50% stronger than the 360, you won't get a emulator even in the next generation).

You can emulate the Wii on the PC and in fact they've also hook-up the Wii remote with the help of a bluetooth transmitter. It's not possible to emulate the 360 or PS3 because the hardware requirements is too far much to emulate the PS3/360 with another OS on top.

Honestly, I give it a year at the very most on release for the WiiU to be "emulated" as well seeing there's nothing entirely special about it.

 

[BishopofAges]

"Specs this, specs that" "Losing their minds" etc.. These things have no bearing on the fact that when this was unveiled I literally sat up in my chair and said aloud "I want to hold that controller" And since that E3 and after this recent one that feeling has intensified 10 fold.

Graphics don't matter to me, the ability to play wider varieties of games does. Naysayers don't matter to me, the games lineup looks a hell of a lot better for launch than the PS3 did (ha~...). I have not yet bought Arkham City because I lacked funding for so long and forgot about it, now I want it on Wii U and not a damn thing about 'PC is better' or 'controls are different and therefore bad' will stop me from buying it and enjoying it.

Taking what the Wii already had in motion controls and the like, bringing it togather with all the fun stuff the new controller can do and the third party support, I am very confident in wanting to buy this.

 

[OldNewNewOld]

But you can't play Wii or WiiU games on the PC (without emulating, which is usually buggy and it usually take a lot of time to make an emulator. And if the WiiU is 50% stronger than the 360, you won't get a emulator even in the next generation).

You can emulate the Wii on the PC and in fact they've also hook-up the Wii remote with the help of a bluetooth transmitter. It's not possible to emulate the 360 or PS3 because the hardware requirements is too far much to emulate the PS3/360 with another OS on top.

Honestly, I give it a year at the very most on release for the WiiU to be "emulated" as well seeing there's nothing entirely special about it.

Maybe my wording was unclear. I know you can play Wii games on the PC with an emulator.
But it wasn't always this way. I did take some time to make the emulator work and even now you can find games that won't work as they should.

Also, I doubt that we will see a WiiU emulator anytime soon.
The WiiU is a stronger than the PS3. So if it's not possible to emulate the PS3, I doubt you can somehow emulate the WiiU.

EDIT:
I reread my post.
I wrote "You can't play Wii..." instead of "couldn't". I got my Wii shortly after the launch and I doubt there was an emulator at that time.

 

[Phuctifyno]

FI is Fucking Insulting. If you really need as much help as Fi forces on you, you're also not old enough to read, making her completely pointless anyway. For the first six hours of the game, you really can't go more than two minutes with out being interrupted to be told to do what you were already going to do. I actually rage quit because the game was constantly being interrupted.

you know that you could have just not pushed the button that makes her talk right? That is literally the only way that you could hear so much from her outside of a cut scene.

If that were really the case (it's not and I'll get to that), being constantly reminded that you're on a virtual rail tour set up by programmers who think you're an idiot makes it insanely difficult to get immersed in a fantasy that's supposed to be about exploration and discovery, unless you've got a very special kind of personality. Even by actively ignoring the prompt (if I remember right, it's a loud beeping sound, definitely not annoying - or maybe that was for the dowsing, also pointless and stupid), this invades your psych while trying to enjoy the game.

Also, there'd be the nagging feeling that you're missing something important, because even though most of what she says is pointless, there's bound to be that one tidbit of info that you really do need. So chances are that you're not going to ignore it no matter how bad it is, unless you're the same type of player who in an RPG would use up every single item they have in every single fight they got into. Special kind of personality.

Now, what you're not mentioning is that "cut scene" includes stopping you in your tracks for anything and everything up to: A) entering a new area to show you all the places of interest, 2) getting into a fight with a new enemy that may employ a new strategy, and D) ending a conversation with an npc which then requires you to take some kind of action (most of which are forced on their own).

60 to 80 percent of Fi's help does not require button presses, unless it's to skip or speed up the dialogue. Maybe this lightens up later in the game, further than I made it, but having that completely unnecessary feature at all is irritating - anything beyond the first hour is offensive. Text-based instruction is never necessary in a video game. That's what the manual is for, that's what the options menu is for, that's what your brain and fingers are for.

Idunno. Here's a brilliant video that can explain it better than I could. (if you've got 20 minutes to spare).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FpigqfcvlM

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

Hasn't nintendo been off the ball for a while now?
I mean, It hasn't been doing anything really great for a while and has been wildly outshone by practically everything else.

 

[MyNameIsNowNotMyName]

Wha... I don't even... D:
Anyways, this article is complete BS. For me, Mass Effect 3 being on Wii U is a deciding factor, one that will actually cause me to BUY IT. I dunno, this is probably one of the bad Cracked articles. You should probably give it no regard. I honestly think Chris Chase wrote that.
(-99 rep for me knowing who Chris Chase is....)