Craziest/ supidest theories you have ever heard

[Erttheking]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

 

[spartan231490]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

 

[oZode]

Aliens did everything for us.

Because humans back then were fully incapable of making the pyramids themselves!

 

[aoi287]

Wow, sure is a lot of religious intolerance in this thread. I'm an atheist, but damn.

OT: That time cube site is ridiculous.

Also, it always cracks me up when shows like Ancient Aliens go on and on about UFO-like objects appearing in old artwork. I don't get why they think these people MUST have seen aliens, as opposed to, I don't know, having an imagination.

 

[Arakasi]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

... If you would actualy read the page you would get it.
But here's a small overview.
There are 2 concepts, one which states that action causes reaction, therefore there is no random: Determinism and another that allows for random action: Indeterminism.
Since our brains subscribe to the laws of physics, chemistry and whatnot, then either are actions are based upon previous action, or randomness.
As such, we are either bound to fate or randomness do not have free will.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

No offense but Theists need to get something better then "You can't disprove it" as well.

OT: Pretty much everything that people say without even a tiny bit of proof. Whether it be 2012 or religion it just gets people worked up for no reason. Seriously next time something like the end of the world doesn't happen we all should get to slap whoever decided it would.

It's no offense to me because despite your assumption that I'm a theist, I'm actually not. When theists say "You can't disprove it" it's not to mock the belief's of others, it's just a flimsy argument that doesn't seek to offend anyone; when atheists on the other hand use the immature "invisible etc etc" analogy it just makes atheists look like 13 year olds on XBL.

And calling him an insufferable atheist doesn't make you look like a 13 year old on xbox?

 

[spartan231490]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

... If you would actualy read the page you would get it.
But here's a small overview.
There are 2 concepts, one which states that action causes reaction, therefore there is no random: Determinism and another that allows for random action: Indeterminism.
Since our brains subscribe to the laws of physics, chemistry and whatnot, then either are actions are based upon previous action, or randomness.
As such, we are either bound to fate or randomness do not have free will.

How do you know that our brains perscribe to predetermination or randomness? I don't really see either of this as a guarenteed occurance.

 

[Arakasi]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

... If you would actualy read the page you would get it.
But here's a small overview.
There are 2 concepts, one which states that action causes reaction, therefore there is no random: Determinism and another that allows for random action: Indeterminism.
Since our brains subscribe to the laws of physics, chemistry and whatnot, then either are actions are based upon previous action, or randomness.
As such, we are either bound to fate or randomness do not have free will.

How do you know that our brains perscribe to predetermination or randomness? I don't really see either of this as a guarenteed occurance.

Indeterminism and determinism cover both ends of the spectrum.
So if it is neither indeterminism nor determinism which controls the movement of matter what does?

 

[DementedSheep]

Well the one that immediately comes to mind is the all environmentalists want us all dead and are responsible for every terrorist attacks in recent years including 9/11 and Earth hour is apparently actually celebrating the fall of mankind.
The world is actually flat and those satellite images of the earth are all faked by the NASA.
If you micro chip your pet the government can use your pet to monitor you.
There is a group of people that believe that if you really don?t believe in death you won?t die.
Another was that the Queen of England wants to kill all Australians, I can?t remember why she supposedly wants to do this.
Aids denial makes even less sense than Holocaust denial.
A guy I know honestly believes vaccines are used to implant tracking devices in our skin, damn reasonable compared to allot of things but I?m friends with this guy and he is usually not like that.
And since reading this thread timecube...just what?

 

[Woodsey]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

No, I said religion once. I wasn't aware there are rules against having the same answers as other people. Religion doesn't get a pass just because its religion; if we're to take the piss out of 2012-ers, the Y2K people, astrologists, etc, etc, then religion can get it in the neck too.

 

[michiehoward]

-Holocaust deniers
-Truthers
-Birthers
-Any conspiracy theory about 911
-The Bilderburg group
-Worldwide Jewry run earth

And that Timecube, I think my intelligence sunk
Oh and the moon landing didn't happen

 

[standokan]

Princess Diana causing 911, I mean, seriously?

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Holocaust denial.

There is so much evidence: physical, psychological, photographic, etc.. how could anyone honestly believe that it didn't happen? I'm not sure if it's my paranoia or not when I hear completely off-the-wall theories and think to myself, "Does the person saying this actually believe it or are they just fucking with me/us?"

This. Seriously, who would deny something that has clear evidence?

 

[Erttheking]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

No, I said religion once. I wasn't aware there are rules against having the same answers as other people. Religion doesn't get a pass just because its religion; if we're to take the piss out of 2012-ers, the Y2K people, astrologists, etc, etc, then religion can get it in the neck too.

...yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy, even those who are religious think so, and those who believe in religion make up 90% of the planet's population...are you saying that you know better than most of the world?

 

[Woodsey]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

No, I said religion once. I wasn't aware there are rules against having the same answers as other people. Religion doesn't get a pass just because its religion; if we're to take the piss out of 2012-ers, the Y2K people, astrologists, etc, etc, then religion can get it in the neck too.

...yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy, even those who are religious think so, and those who believe in religion make up 90% of the planet's population...are you saying that you know better than most of the world?

Lots of people believing it doesn't lend it credence by default; what a stupid statement.

Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

"yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy"

They make wild assumptions based on non-evidence, varying levels of paranoia and a longing for some sort of purpose in life. Sound familiar?

 

[Erttheking]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

No, I said religion once. I wasn't aware there are rules against having the same answers as other people. Religion doesn't get a pass just because its religion; if we're to take the piss out of 2012-ers, the Y2K people, astrologists, etc, etc, then religion can get it in the neck too.

...yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy, even those who are religious think so, and those who believe in religion make up 90% of the planet's population...are you saying that you know better than most of the world?

Lots of people believing it doesn't lend it credence by default; what a stupid statement.

Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

"yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy"

They make wild assumptions based on non-evidence, varying levels of paranoia and a longing for some sort of purpose in life. Sound familiar?

Yeah, you might also want to take a look at this too
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodAtheist

Here I thought that stereotype only existed in fiction but time and time again people like you prove me wrong, you must be the atheist that gives other atheists a bad name. Here's an little something to mull over, religion is recognized by most of the world governments as legitimate organizations. there's a difference between the Catholic Church and the Church of Scientology, also religion is about more than believing in a god, its about being a better person, some of the ten commandments a central part of catholic life

Thou shall honor thy mother and father
Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not steal
Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife
And the golden rule
Treat others the way that you would want to be treated.

Religion isn't something that can be thrown under the same blanket, Muslims aren't like Jews and Jews aren't like Christians and even Christians can be categorized as the same thing, there's too many sub cultures that fall under it, even among Catholics and Baptists, everyone takes it to a different level. Then again considering that stereotype that you fall under, you probably think that all religious people mindless worship a deity without question, throw money to the church and do what they're told to avoid some sort of punishment in the after life, I'm so offended by this that I don't even know where to begin, we are much more complex than "the world is going to end because the Mayans stopped writing their calendar."

 

[katsumoto03]

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

And yet, no theist has a good response to it...

OT: I agree with everyone who says God. It really is quite silly in my mind. Also, those "Birther" fellas.

 

[Erttheking]

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

And yet, no theist has a good response to it...

OT: I agree with everyone who says God. It really is quite silly in my mind. Also, those "Birther" fellas.

Here's an idea, I don't go around shoving down my belief down your throat, could you kindly return the favor and not shove your lack of belief down my throat and stop trying to paint me as a mindless idiot who has fallen to crowd mentality?

 

[Woodsey]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

No, I said religion once. I wasn't aware there are rules against having the same answers as other people. Religion doesn't get a pass just because its religion; if we're to take the piss out of 2012-ers, the Y2K people, astrologists, etc, etc, then religion can get it in the neck too.

...yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy, even those who are religious think so, and those who believe in religion make up 90% of the planet's population...are you saying that you know better than most of the world?

Lots of people believing it doesn't lend it credence by default; what a stupid statement.

Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

"yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy"

They make wild assumptions based on non-evidence, varying levels of paranoia and a longing for some sort of purpose in life. Sound familiar?

Yeah, you might also want to take a look at this too
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodAtheist

Here I thought that stereotype only existed in fiction but time and time again people like you prove me wrong, you must be the atheist that gives other atheists a bad name. Here's an little something to mull over, religion is recognized by most of the world governments as legitimate organizations. there's a difference between the Catholic Church and the Church of Scientology, also religion is about more than believing in a god, its about being a better person, some of the ten commandments a central part of catholic life

Thou shall honor thy mother and father
Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not steal
Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife
And the golden rule
Treat others the way that you would want to be treated.

Religion isn't something that can be thrown under the same blanket, Muslims aren't like Jews and Jews aren't like Christians and even Christians can be categorized as the same thing, there's too many sub cultures that fall under it, even among Catholics and Baptists, everyone takes it to a different level. Then again considering that stereotype that you fall under, you probably think that all religious people mindless worship a deity without question, throw money to the church and do what they're told to avoid some sort of punishment in the after life, I'm so offended by this that I don't even know where to begin, we are much more complex than "the world is going to end because the Mayans stopped writing their calendar."

You criticised someone for commenting on (and mocking) the Man In the Sky belief, I thought it was pretty evident that we were talking about that side of things.

"you probably think that all religious people mindless worship a deity without question"

There's a distinction between religious people and religion itself. The theistic side of religion is stupid. The other shit that you've brought up - which we weren't talking about - is irrelevant to what we are talking (and before you get to it: no, of course I don't think its a bad thing that the Bible tells people not to kill others). Yes, I would (heavily) fault someone for being religious for the theistic side. That doesn't mean I'm faulting them entirely.

For example, yy Politics teacher is religious. Outside of that, she's pretty funny, we all get along with her, she's got fairly moderate political views (a little too conservative for my taste). She's also some denomination of Christianity, and whenever religion gets brought up she sounds like a completely different person, talking about the rebirth of Christ and knowing that god is watching over her (and turning a blind-eye to the issue of politics needing to remain secular). I would fault her for that, that doesn't mean I consider her a drooling idiot who can't think for herself.

"we are much more complex than "the world is going to end because the Mayans stopped writing their calendar.""

Missing the point. The theistic side of religion (AGAIN: no, I don't care about the morals whichever holy text you read contains, that is not relevant to this discussion) and the end-of-the-world prophesising come from much the same place. A misunderstanding of what counts as evidence (or simply blind faith), unhealthy amounts of attention devoted to archaic texts, a need for some sort of purpose in life, a healthy dose of superstition and/or paranoia.

And it was nice of you to try and ignore your complete and utter logical fallacy by trying to attach a bloody character trope to me (I don't fit any of those: I know enough about the major religions, neither of my parents gave any indication of them being atheists until I asked, so when I was about 12). Be careful the straws don't snap whilst you're clutching them.

 

[Erttheking]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

No, I said religion once. I wasn't aware there are rules against having the same answers as other people. Religion doesn't get a pass just because its religion; if we're to take the piss out of 2012-ers, the Y2K people, astrologists, etc, etc, then religion can get it in the neck too.

...yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy, even those who are religious think so, and those who believe in religion make up 90% of the planet's population...are you saying that you know better than most of the world?

Lots of people believing it doesn't lend it credence by default; what a stupid statement.

Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

"yeah except the 2012ers are completely crazy"

They make wild assumptions based on non-evidence, varying levels of paranoia and a longing for some sort of purpose in life. Sound familiar?

Yeah, you might also want to take a look at this too
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodAtheist

Here I thought that stereotype only existed in fiction but time and time again people like you prove me wrong, you must be the atheist that gives other atheists a bad name. Here's an little something to mull over, religion is recognized by most of the world governments as legitimate organizations. there's a difference between the Catholic Church and the Church of Scientology, also religion is about more than believing in a god, its about being a better person, some of the ten commandments a central part of catholic life

Thou shall honor thy mother and father
Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not steal
Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife
And the golden rule
Treat others the way that you would want to be treated.

Religion isn't something that can be thrown under the same blanket, Muslims aren't like Jews and Jews aren't like Christians and even Christians can be categorized as the same thing, there's too many sub cultures that fall under it, even among Catholics and Baptists, everyone takes it to a different level. Then again considering that stereotype that you fall under, you probably think that all religious people mindless worship a deity without question, throw money to the church and do what they're told to avoid some sort of punishment in the after life, I'm so offended by this that I don't even know where to begin, we are much more complex than "the world is going to end because the Mayans stopped writing their calendar."

You criticised someone for commenting on (and mocking) the Man In the Sky belief, I thought it was pretty evident that we were talking about that side of things.

"you probably think that all religious people mindless worship a deity without question"

There's a distinction between religious people and religion itself. The theistic side of religion is stupid. The other shit that you've brought up - which we weren't talking about - is irrelevant to what we are talking (and before you get to it: no, of course I don't think its a bad thing that the Bible tells people not to kill others). Yes, I would (heavily) fault someone for being religious for the theistic side. That doesn't mean I'm faulting them entirely.

For example, yy Politics teacher is religious. Outside of that, she's pretty funny, we all get along with her, she's got fairly moderate political views (a little too conservative for my taste). She's also some denomination of Christianity, and whenever religion gets brought up she sounds like a completely different person, talking about the rebirth of Christ and knowing that god is watching over her (and turning a blind-eye to the issue of politics needing to remain secular). I would fault her for that, that doesn't mean I consider her a drooling idiot who can't think for herself.

"we are much more complex than "the world is going to end because the Mayans stopped writing their calendar.""

Missing the point. The theistic side of religion (AGAIN: no, I don't care about the morals whichever holy text you read contains, that is not relevant to this discussion) and the end-of-the-world prophesising come from much the same place. A misunderstanding of what counts as evidence (or simply blind faith), unhealthy amounts of attention devoted to archaic texts, a need for some sort of purpose in life, a healthy dose of superstition and/or paranoia.

Oh...I think that there has been a misunderstanding here. I apologize and I take back all of the insults that I dealt out.