Crazy naked dude chews a man's face off

[Eclectic Dreck]

Uh, no. I'm pretty sure bullets in your legs will persuade you to stop running/moving.

The human body is not Hollywood-resilient. Getting shot in the leg is still likely to kill you, for instance of an artery is hit. You shoot to kill or you don't shoot at all. That's how it works.

I think the better way to put it is quite simply to point to the laws of gun safety. A firearm is a lethal instrument. If one is going to shoot something it should only be done with the implicit assumption that it will destroy the target.

More to the point, hitting a target center of mass is simpler than in the leg and more predictable. Even at point blank range, were I to discharge my Sig into a person's torso, the current load of ammunition is not likely to penetrate the target. By contrast, the bonded hollow points currently loaded in my gun could relatively easily punch through a lower leg even if the resulting penetration was by little more than bullet fragments.

I mean, it seems fairly obvious to me. You don't aim at the Torso because that is a particularly effective place to poke holes if you intend to kill someone: you do it because it is both the slowest moving part of the human body and because your rounds have the least chance of exiting the target.

 

[Powereaver]

he was on a cocaine seizure... so yea.. kids dont use drugs m'kay!

 

[Mazza35]

While I didn't really care to listen to the news video(watched it to see if actual footage came up and it didn't) the article I read mentioned that he told the guy to back away from the other guy and when he didn't stop eating him he shot him. Considering he's biting off the other guy's face I think shooting him at that point is justified, the other guy's life is in danger. Though not sure which would be more accurate the article or the video.

My problem is that the police shot an unarmed man. If this were to happen in a place where regular police officers don't carry guns, the police officer would have found another method of taking him down without killing him. But as far as I know this police officer didn't even try.

There is potential for crazy zombie style attacks anywhere. American police are far too trigger happy for my liking. As I said, I'm glad I don't live there.

Unarmed is not the same thing as helpless. An unarmed person can still deliver lethal injury. We are, after all, rather fragile.

Quite agreed, un armed doesnt mean non-dangerous.

Raven's Nest, if someone was ripping the very flesh off you skin and eating your fucking eyes, would you want the police to try a 'non-lethal' option that given the obvious fact the homeless zombie guy is bat-shit, high to the fucking moon crazy, have a high change of not working? Drugs can pretty much make you immune to pain. Insurgents in Afgan, when they know they are fucked. Pump themselves so high it takes at least 10 rounds from a freaking medium machine gun to get them on THEIR KNEES!

So, simple question.

Some guy is eating your face off, not just trying, but actually EATING IT OFF.
Would you rather take the chance of 'tasers' and other bullshit, or a semi-auto 9mm pistol to stop the guy eating your face?

And you response to 'armed officers,' the UK has horrible laws on this. If someone went bat-shit crazy and started shooting up the street, I wouldnt' want to wait for the 'armed reponse' which could take up to several minuets to arrive, in that time 30 people could of died.

No, I would want my friendly, trained, quite good shot (Police have fuckloads of firearms training) to whip out his pistol, and take that fucker down.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Some guy is eating your face off, not just trying, but actually EATING IT OFF.
Would you rather take the chance of 'tasers' and other bullshit, or a semi-auto 9mm pistol to stop the guy eating your face?

Especially when once considers that application of a taser, when there is direct contact with a second person, results in both the taser being less effective but also guarantees that both the attacker and the victim get shocked.

And you response to 'armed officers,' the UK has horrible laws on this. If someone went bat-shit crazy and started shooting up the street, I wouldnt' want to wait for the 'armed reponse' which could take up to several minuets to arrive, in that time 30 people could of died.

Plenty of incidents can be resolved without lethal force. When lethal force is the only way to resolve the incident however, generally time is of the essence. Hell, the use of lethal force is the rare exception. In my city of more than a million people with countless thousands of crimes a year, the use of lethal force by police only happens once in a blue moon and I live in Texas.

 

[Mazza35]

Some guy is eating your face off, not just trying, but actually EATING IT OFF.
Would you rather take the chance of 'tasers' and other bullshit, or a semi-auto 9mm pistol to stop the guy eating your face?

Especially when once considers that application of a taser, when there is direct contact with a second person, results in both the taser being less effective but also guarantees that both the attacker and the victim get shocked.

And you response to 'armed officers,' the UK has horrible laws on this. If someone went bat-shit crazy and started shooting up the street, I wouldnt' want to wait for the 'armed reponse' which could take up to several minuets to arrive, in that time 30 people could of died.

Plenty of incidents can be resolved without lethal force. When lethal force is the only way to resolve the incident however, generally time is of the essence. Hell, the use of lethal force is the rare exception. In my city of more than a million people with countless thousands of crimes a year, the use of lethal force by police only happens once in a blue moon and I live in Texas.

I understand that majority of incidents are resolved without lethal force, but I do like the confidence that if a shooting starts happening, my regular police (Who I have no reason to distrust) can deal with it swiftly

CAPTCHA: Till the tank

Interesting xD

 

[Tekkawarrior]

11th May: 500,000 dollars of pathology equipment stole in Orlando Florida that was infected with a flesh eating virus. (Florida)
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-11/news/os-orlando-stolen-lab-equipment-hazmat-20120511_1_equipment-hazardous-materials-orlando-police-department
16th May: McArthur High School HazMat Situation: Students, Teachers Decontaminated After Breaking Out In Rash (Florida):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/mcarthur-high-school-contamination_n_1521764.html
19th May: No confirmation on chemical at Fort Lauderdale International Airport (Florida):
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/terminal-2-evacuated-at-fort-lauderdale-airport-in-hazmat-scare
21th May: Police: Man bites woman in Westchester (Illinois):
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/westchester/newsnow/x639948018/Police-Man-bites-woman-in-Westchester
23th May: Man Bites Cousin's Nose Off (Florida):
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Bites-Cousins-Nose-Off-153100125.html
24th May: Second Broward school reports mystery rash (Florida):
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/24/2815003/second-broward-school-reports.html
25th May: Hazmat Called After Kids Exposed To what authorities are calling ?Pesticide? On Bus: Hazmat, EMS Respond To Lake County, FL School (Florida):
http://www.wesh.com/r/31112110/detail.html
25th May: 'Disoriented' passenger subdued on flight in Miami (Florida)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/25/passenger-restrained-on-flight-to-miami-arrested/
26th May: Florida Doctor Spits Blood at Highway Patrolmen After DUI Arrest (Florida):
http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-doctor-spits-blood-troopers-face-dui-arrest/story?id=16436402
27th May: Miami police shoot naked man chewing on victim's face (Florida):
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/26/11899538-report-miami-police-shoot-naked-man-chewing-on-victims-face]http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/26/11899538-report-miami-police-shoot-naked-man-chewing-on-victims-face
27th May: Georgia contractor bites Lowe's employees, resists arrest (Florida):
http://columbus.wtvm.com/news/crime/54763-contractor-bites-lowes-employees-resists-arrest
27th May: Researcher of flesh eating disease (NYU Medical center) murdered in broad daylight (New york):
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/woman-shot-dead-outside-north-carolina-elementary-school/story-e6frfku0-1226368065534

 

[Elemental]

11th May: 500,000 dollars of pathology equipment stole in Orlando Florida that was infected with a flesh eating virus. (Florida)
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-11/news/os-orlando-stolen-lab-equipment-hazmat-20120511_1_equipment-hazardous-materials-orlando-police-department
16th May: McArthur High School HazMat Situation: Students, Teachers Decontaminated After Breaking Out In Rash (Florida):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/mcarthur-high-school-contamination_n_1521764.html
19th May: No confirmation on chemical at Fort Lauderdale International Airport (Florida):
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/terminal-2-evacuated-at-fort-lauderdale-airport-in-hazmat-scare
21th May: Police: Man bites woman in Westchester (Illinois):
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/westchester/newsnow/x639948018/Police-Man-bites-woman-in-Westchester
23th May: Man Bites Cousin's Nose Off (Florida):
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Bites-Cousins-Nose-Off-153100125.html
24th May: Second Broward school reports mystery rash (Florida):
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/24/2815003/second-broward-school-reports.html
25th May: Hazmat Called After Kids Exposed To what authorities are calling ?Pesticide? On Bus: Hazmat, EMS Respond To Lake County, FL School (Florida):
http://www.wesh.com/r/31112110/detail.html
25th May: 'Disoriented' passenger subdued on flight in Miami (Florida)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/25/passenger-restrained-on-flight-to-miami-arrested/
26th May: Florida Doctor Spits Blood at Highway Patrolmen After DUI Arrest (Florida):
http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-doctor-spits-blood-troopers-face-dui-arrest/story?id=16436402
27th May: Miami police shoot naked man chewing on victim's face (Florida):
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/26/11899538-report-miami-police-shoot-naked-man-chewing-on-victims-face]http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/26/11899538-report-miami-police-shoot-naked-man-chewing-on-victims-face
27th May: Georgia contractor bites Lowe's employees, resists arrest (Florida):
http://columbus.wtvm.com/news/crime/54763-contractor-bites-lowes-employees-resists-arrest
27th May: Researcher of flesh eating disease (NYU Medical center) murdered in broad daylight (New york):
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/woman-shot-dead-outside-north-carolina-elementary-school/story-e6frfku0-1226368065534

Holy... Shit...
Something will go down in Florida

 

[Amber Lennon]

I myself am from a country with unarmed police - I wish they were armed and I wish we had the death penalty. - england btw and I'm 19. That guy deserved to be shot end of he was eating a guys face - critical harm to another . life changing imagine that guy is going to have to walk round with It deformed face for the rest of his life and there is alot of judgemental people in the world. It will affect things to the point where he may have no real quality of life in his mind. stop thinking about the attacker and think about the victim. any guy who attacks or breaks the law to that extent doesnt deserve the same sympathy as a good law abiding citizen. Alot of your views are very warped. It's wrong completely Wrong.

 

[devotedsniper]

I believe it's time to start planning where i will go when the zombie outbreak gets out of hand...my university has a nice big building which could be easily defended thinking about it, shame the UK doesn't allow guns. guess a lorry and sword will have to do till the army bases get overun, then i'm going to get me a tank and an apache.

 

[Kopikatsu]

I'm seriously in awe of how people are somehow upset at the fact that the naked guy got shot while he was in the middle of eating someone's face off while they were still alive.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

I've lived in Florida for 5 years now. Some of the strangest stories come out of here. There are crazy people here. (Like the barking hobo where I live) but you wouldn't think you'd see crap quite like this.

Maybe its just easier to get drugs down here.

 

[CleverCover]

You know, this is probably the only thing that would send me to Australia.
Let's see the zombies get at me while fighting the world's deadliest island.

'checks for plane tickets'

Zombies....can't swim right?

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Zombie apocalypse anyone?

Nope, just Florida.

its spreading... yes those are TWO other cannibal stories from less than a week ago.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18673043/killer-cannibal-admits-eating-maryland-house-guests-heart-and-brain

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

double post delete please

 

[Darth_Dude]

NUKE IT FROM ORBIT.

It's the only way to be sure. We can't let it spread guys. We have to stop it before it's too late

 

[Treblaine]

Crazy people exist. There are various reasons for them being crazy but the point is they are, and unlike a zombie apocalypse this insanity is isolated and not contagious.

These cases are horrible but thankfully rare and the most vulnerable are not people in their homes behind locked doors around friends but lone vagrants who don't have locked doors or regular neighbours.

Why did the police have to shoot the crazy guy? Sure, he tried to attack the police, but surely there are other ways to stop him than to kill him...

There will likely be an investigation but I suspect that the issue is the suspects extreme aggression and mania made physical restraint or pain compliance impractical. The suspect has already demonstrated his capability and willingness to cause serious irreversible harm.

The way weapons drawn even WORK to arrest people is precisely the threat that is ACTUAL that the police will shoot if you keep on with aggressive action and the understanding that the police have authority to arrest you. But with crazy people, they don't understand that.

 

[Iron Criterion]

Edit: I seriously doubt anyone in the officer's position would be considering a non-lethal take-down, despite what all the "OMG, he didn't deserve to die" liberals in this thread are saying.

To be fair, there is a difference between liberals and whiny White Knights, this tread has a number of whiny white knights.

There is some overlap between the two, but a lot of liberals are not, in fact, idiots.

This is true, I should probably clarify my initial post somewhat.

 

[Treblaine]

Zombie apocalypse anyone?

Nope, just Florida.

its spreading... yes those are TWO other cannibal stories from less than a week ago.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18673043/killer-cannibal-admits-eating-maryland-house-guests-heart-and-brain

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html

7 billion people on this planet and those are completely separate and distinct - if awful - cases.

I know you are probably joking but please, some people take this the wrong way and get worked up into a panic over nothing.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Zombie apocalypse anyone?

Nope, just Florida.

its spreading... yes those are TWO other cannibal stories from less than a week ago.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18673043/killer-cannibal-admits-eating-maryland-house-guests-heart-and-brain

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html

7 billion people on this planet and those are completely separate and distinct - if awful - cases.

I know you are probably joking but please, some people take this the wrong way and get worked up into a panic over nothing.

But... I'm having so much fun.

 

[tangoprime]

I agree, they should have tazed the guy instead. The dude was clearly mentally unsound, that is not a reason to execute someone.

I'm very glad my normal police force don't carry guns... That way when they piss themselves because they are clearly undisciplined they wont open fire on anything that moves.

Yes, they should have tased the guy. That way, he could have completely shrugged it off and continued eating some dude's face. Tasers are not magical, OHKO weapons, people! And people who are COMPLETELY BATSHIT HIGH ON DRUGS to the point where they are EATING SOMEONE'S FACE OFF will not go down just because one, two, ten, twenty people are tasering him.

I hope someone tries to eat your face, and we'll see how righteously mad you can be when that someone gets shot by the police.

First of all, bolding and shouting your points don't make them any more convincing. It's obnoxious and makes your argument seem childish.

Secondly, read this report [https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=246034]. The main points are that tasering is successful in it's first attempt in 69% of cases. "These findings suggest that the use of decisive force with the TASER early on in active suspect resistance is more likely than other less-lethal weapons to end the conflict quickly and thereby reduce the likelihood of additional injuries, whose rates increase as second and third applications of force (iterations) are applied.

So if several officers are present, even two or three more applications will bring someone down. There are also a whole host of non-lethal techniques that could have been used such as pepper spray, flash-bang grenades, batons etc.

That the police opened fire on an unarmed man after giving just one warning (according to the news video), then shot him four times shows that the police officer panicked and did not stop for a moment to consider alternative ways to end the conflict. Please note the officer's name was not Judge Dredd...

If you think it's acceptable for a police officer to shoot a man dead for being unarmed and engaged in a fight then I have to consider for a moment, is the police officer "bat-shit insane" or are you?

You left out the part where after one warning, the guy growled and continued to eat the victim's (still alive) face. It was one cop. A victim was in the process of being fucking eaten. If I was the victim, I would've kind of expected the officer to help me out at this point and remove the threat of the asshole eating my face with a bit more than a 69% chance (though in this case, as we saw, even an initial gunshot didn't stop him, so I think we can, in hindsight say the taser WOULDN'T have worked).

If I was the police officer, alone on the scene, a victim was currently being murdered and a clearly crazed man was the attacker, you can be damn straight I'd have made the same call the officer did, rather than possibly becoming a second victim myself, and now putting my weapons in the hands of a crazed cannibal.

Also, to the whole clueless "shoot him in the leg, guns can do that right?" argument people who have no clue what they're talking about always seem to bring up... most people, even those trained in the use of firearms, under extreme stress, don't shoot that well. Police don't get special forces training, police don't get to shoot tens of thousands of rounds a year in weapons familiarization and training like special military units do, and hence, shouldn't be trusted to try to shoot to immobilize.

We always see this dumb argument of "they should've shot them in the arm/leg/etc. instead of just killing them!" How would that same person respond if the officer in question had shot to immobilize, and either missed, and the stray bullet hit a child 2 blocks away, or another good possibility, the round hits the leg/arm, overpenetrates the leg/arm (seriously, 3-4 inches of soft tissue isn't going to stop a LE FMJ load) and kills someone 2 blocks away? Watching TV/Movies and playing video games doesn't qualify someone to try to argue a point about real-life firearms.