Critical Miss: #6

evilengine

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wait...what has this got to do with the titular Critical Miss? I don't even remember her name, but she's not in this release at all, just something about Final Fantasy. Is this something she's written as part of a review? is the explorer a character who's going to crop up again? Would you kindly explain how this comic fits in with the story of a female game critic who doesn't actually star in her own comic...Even if you threw her in at the end or had her reading/telling us this joke it would made sense and I wouldn't winge, but she's not. The other comics were about her, but this isn't...

Though it is funny how the only remotely amusing comic doesn't actually include her character...wait...what was I complaining about again?
 

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Mordwyl said:
To hell with FF7. FF6 is not only deserving of a REAL remake, but considering the setting it's also ideal for this generation.
Excuse me, but what about FF6 needs remaking? The 2D art looks perfectly good, gameplay is functional, not to mention it was ported to a handheld so you could play it on the go.

If people want to play FF6 they should just go buy the GBA version or port it to Virtual Console/PSN Network. I personally don't want FF6 completely remade, as I can pretty much guarantee the current Square has no idea what made their games good and would ruin it. For example, every change made to Chrono Trigger when it was ported to the DS was for the worse, in my opinion.

evilengine said:
wait...what has this got to do with the titular Critical Miss? I don't even remember her name, but she's not in this release at all, just something about Final Fantasy. Is this something she's written as part of a review? is the explorer a character who's going to crop up again? Would you kindly explain how this comic fits in with the story of a female game critic who doesn't actually star in her own comic...Even if you threw her in at the end or had her reading/telling us this joke it would made sense and I wouldn't winge, but she's not. The other comics were about her, but this isn't...
This is a good point. This comic doesn't fit in at all with the premise of the comic. You know, not every comic has to be Penny Arcade with the obvious gamer messages based on current gaming news. The main character is actually fairly interesting compared to the typical "unemployed (or not obviously employed at any specific place since it never figures into the humor) gamer" characters we see in other gaming webcomics.
 

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Samurai Goomba said:
Mordwyl said:
To hell with FF7. FF6 is not only deserving of a REAL remake, but considering the setting it's also ideal for this generation.
Excuse me, but what about FF6 needs remaking? The 2D art looks perfectly good, gameplay is functional, not to mention it was ported to a handheld so you could play it on the go.

If people want to play FF6 they should just go buy the GBA version or port it to Virtual Console/PSN Network. I personally don't want FF6 completely remade, as I can pretty much guarantee the current Square has no idea what made their games good and would ruin it. For example, every change made to Chrono Trigger when it was ported to the DS was for the worse, in my opinion.
Easy, have you played the ports? They didn't even bother to polish them up. Meanwhile every installment before it has received a proper remake on the DS and were well-received. Also I don't necessarily believe a simple upgrade on the aesthetics with some spit and polish are enough for one of the best titles in the series. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals was astounding turn-based RPG in its own right, and yet its remake Lufia: The Land Cursed by the Gods revamped the title as an action RPG while still retaining its characters and the major plot elements.

What I'm trying to say is, good as FF6 was back in the day the concept was far beyond its time.
 

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Mordwyl said:
Samurai Goomba said:
Mordwyl said:
To hell with FF7. FF6 is not only deserving of a REAL remake, but considering the setting it's also ideal for this generation.
Excuse me, but what about FF6 needs remaking? The 2D art looks perfectly good, gameplay is functional, not to mention it was ported to a handheld so you could play it on the go.

If people want to play FF6 they should just go buy the GBA version or port it to Virtual Console/PSN Network. I personally don't want FF6 completely remade, as I can pretty much guarantee the current Square has no idea what made their games good and would ruin it. For example, every change made to Chrono Trigger when it was ported to the DS was for the worse, in my opinion.
Easy, have you played the ports? They didn't even bother to polish them up. Meanwhile every installment before it has received a proper remake on the DS and were well-received. Also I don't necessarily believe a simple upgrade on the aesthetics with some spit and polish are enough for one of the best titles in the series. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals was astounding turn-based RPG in its own right, and yet its remake Lufia: The Land Cursed by the Gods revamped the title as an action RPG while still retaining its characters and the major plot elements.

What I'm trying to say is, good as FF6 was back in the day the concept was far beyond its time.
Sometimes the definition of art is somebody having a vision that's beyond the technology of the times and making it work despite limitations in the field. If we take that piece of art which arose from adversity and plunge it into the multimillion dollar world of blockbuster games releases, there's no guarantee it'd come out any better for the experience. "Art from adversity."

A more perfect example than the Star Wars series there is not. Given unlimited time, budget and influence, the prequel movies were what George came up with. There's no denying the original Star Wars was a movie ahead of its time-a movie where a lot of the ideas had to be compromised to work with the practical technology they had access to. There were time and budget constraints. Lucas didn't have the last say on everything because he was just another young film maker with an idea.

You've got an example of an old game that was remade successfully. I've got examples of failed remake attempts which were far inferior to the originals (Tales of Phantasia is the first that comes to mind, with the abominable new art direction). What I'm trying to say is it could go either way. I've never been quite as nuts over FF6 as many RPG players (I consider Final Fantasy Tactics to be the pinnacle of the FF series by far), but it's a good example of role playing featuring classic, clean sprite graphics, a narrative that never sacrifices what it's trying to say, a decent combat system, some brilliant music and unforgettable characters. It's creepy, funny, heartwarming and intelligent.

I fail to see how that could be improved by either an expensive facelift or revamped mechanics. They already re-translated the thing, which was probably the only arguable flaw with the game. That and random encounters, but that's more of a flaw within the genre that some devs don't take the time to correct. And there were work-arounds. In my opinion, a cohesive art style and clean visuals never go out of style, no matter how "dated" something ends up looking. It doesn't have to look like FF13, because it's not trying to be FF13.

I fail to understand why gamers WANT all their classic good-time nostalgia games exhumed and remade. I think Collateral is one of the best films ever made by a human being, but nobody better even freaking think for one second about editing or remaking it. "Movies are art and art shouldn't be modified!" (-Stan Marsh) So if one thinks certain games are art, why would one be in favor of modifying art?
 

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jackanderson said:
Loved that one. Keep up the, frankly, excellent work!

May I also announce that FF7 and the Kingdom Hearts series are the only JRPG's I've ever liked. But don't give us a damn remake. I personally don't think it'd work. Plus, people would find a way to cock it up, like most remakes.
I don't know dude, Square's Final Fantasy Tactics remake arguably did nothing but improve the game.
The FFT remake is the sole product Squeenix has released that I absolutely loved. They curb stomped the engrish out of the game and replaced it with something more appropriate.
As they say, the exception does not define the rule.

A FF7 Remake has the bar set far too high to be great. But there are other problems, specifically, most of the absolutely batshit insane content and plots they released (as canon no less) in the compendium games and movie.

For those reasons, I am certain that a remake of FF7 would serve to do nothing but spoil the original even further (as if the internet in its infinite stupidity hasn't done so already).
 

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If they knew what exactly made FF7 so loved and adorned by it's crazy fans... then they would have made a couple hundred clones of the game instead of reinventing the wheel while using the same story/plot over and over again.

They should just release the game on the psp. It's a menu based game rpg that can thrive on that system... unlike FPS or third person shooters.
 

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Seriously, if they wanted to drop a mega-selling bombshell to re-vamp thier image and thier pockets, an FF 7 remake would be the way to do it. But exactly how long do they plan to hold that trump card over our heads? I'm sorry Mr. Mada, but how long do yo think you can hold your poker face? 13 years is a long time to stay your hand, who knows...by the time you decide to play your winning hand everyone else at the table might have already left. I love FF7 with a passion, but even a diehard like myself can lose interest over time. I'd say you have about 1 or 2 more years at the most, before poeple forget the game entirely, and then remakeing it would be a moot point becuase you'll have to rebuild all the hype.
 

Neferius

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Yup... that's pretty much all there is.
Maybe a little less on the Money side ...hopefully.