Crucible and Gordon Freeman Saved My Life

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Crucible and Gordon Freeman Saved My Life

Gavin gives you a peek into "Crucible" and "Gordon Freeman Saved My Life".

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Mister K

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It is really nice to know that a person is enjoying his work.
I wish you many years of prosperity, Mr. Dunne.
May your music reach as many grateful listeners as possible.
 

The_Darkness

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And here's the thing: I only recently started listening to Miracle of Sound, but you can bet Garrus' calibrations that I'm sticking around :)

(Started listening roundabout Joker's song, but I've checked out the earlier tracks and like them. If I had to pick a fave... damn. It'd be between Crucible and Joker's song... I think... But then there's Nord Mead...)
 

Ferrious

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The worst part about listening to your music is being unable to decide if I prefer the silly stuff or the serious stuff. Some days I'm thinking we need more Necromorph Soup / Commander Shepard, then you go and release something like Crucible / Normandy.

Why must you make life so hard?
 

Zhukov

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Getting your sarcasm on there, eh?

I approve.

Congrats on the year. Good on ya.
 

Formica Archonis

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The ending broke my heart and I can understand the upset about it. My other half walked into the room just as I finished it and she described the look on my face as "a little boy who just got told Santa doesn't exist".

Awwww.:(

I need to hug someone now.

This makes no sense. Gordon doesn't talk so he certainly doesn't sing.

Nor does he think in third person narrative.

Next time I play an FPS I have to do that: A running in-character but third-person narration. Full name every time.

"Gordon Freeman was walking down a hall. Gordon Freeman shot yet another weird alien thing. Gordon Freeman began questioning the life decisions that brought him to this point. Gordon Freeman was feeling uncomfortable in this damned suit."

Gordon Freeman Raped My Wife!

I'm going to presume you mean he beat her by a large margin in an online videogame.

So many possibilities. Gordon Freeman Causes Strife? Gordon Freeman Has a Knife? Gordon Freeman Plays the Fife? Or better yet, Gordon Freeman Plays Half-Life?

The ("Crucible") ending was a bit ... abrupt.

Artistic integrity.

I gotta admit, that got me. I was like "Wow, that was a lousy endin- oh! Well played!"
 

mrgbgonzalez

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VMK said:
It is really nice to know that a person is enjoying his work.
I wish you many years of prosperity, Mr. Dunne.
May your music reach as many grateful listeners as possible.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
I've been listening to The Miracle of Sound since its debut here at the Escapist and even when the songs are inspired by games I haven't played or just don't really like, they are prime gold... And have actually gotten me to spread the word and repost a few of them (talking a little but about the games that inspired them) on my guilds blog (shireforce.com. its all in portuguese, so... well, its there).

Its inpiring to see the passion you have for your work and the heart you put on all your songs. Wanna keep listening to many, many, MANY more in the years to come, for sure!

btw: My personal favourite is "Age of the Dragon". Power, melody, heart, emotion. This song rules a great big huge one!
 

LonelyWizzard

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I get that you don't want to spoil things so you can't talk about specifics, but I'd be interested to know what you disliked so much about the ending. Speaking as a HUGE Mass Effect fan myself, I still just can't make sense of how an ending that I found so satisfying, if imperfect, has upset people so much. The vitriol and and anger is baffling, and to hear of how it affected you so much you "couldn't even play any other games or watch any movies for a whole week" is something I really just can't understand. I cried when Mordin died in my game, but I really just don't get how anyone could find the game's ending that repulsive and distressing.
 

TimeLord

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"This kind of "epic" 2 Steps To Hell Stuff is way over-used."

I completely disagree. I love "epic" instrumental songs and I personally would class them as one of my favourite types of music. That's probably why I love Crucible so much. I hope you attempt it again in the future :)
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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"a little boy who just got told Santa doesn't exist."

I know that expression. I think it took me the whole weekend (finished the game on a Friday) to stop wearing that expression.

Well anyway, congratulations Gavin. Your music is a breath of fresh air, and does more to prove that it isn't silly to care about games or any of that nonsense than almost everything else I've been introduced to. You deserve all the success you're getting and more. :)

Question: Are there any more collaborations on the horizon?
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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LonelyWizzard said:
I get that you don't want to spoil things so you can't talk about specifics, but I'd be interested to know what you disliked so much about the ending. Speaking as a HUGE Mass Effect fan myself, I still just can't make sense of how an ending that I found so satisfying, if imperfect, has upset people so much. The vitriol and and anger is baffling, and to hear of how it affected you so much you "couldn't even play any other games or watch any movies for a whole week" is something I really just can't understand. I cried when Mordin died in my game, but I really just don't get how anyone could find the game's ending that repulsive and distressing.
If you haven't already, go and watch the Tasteful, Understated Nerd Rage video on YouTube about it. If you can stomach a 40 minute long video from a man who does not have the most charismatic voice in the world, he says pretty much everything that needs to be said.
 

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LonelyWizzard said:
Speaking as a HUGE Mass Effect fan myself, I still just can't make sense of how an ending that I found so satisfying, if imperfect, has upset people so much. The vitriol and and anger is baffling, and to hear of how it affected you so much you "couldn't even play any other games or watch any movies for a whole week" is something I really just can't understand.
Absolutely, it was the RESPONSE to the ending that affected me far more than some mild disappointment over the ending itself.

NinjaDeathSlap said:
If you haven't already, go and watch the Tasteful, Understated Nerd Rage video on YouTube about it. If you can stomach a 40 minute long video from a man who does not have the most charismatic voice in the world, he says pretty much everything that needs to be said.
This is what I'm talking about, not content with disliking the ending you have to try and persuade others that their opinion is wrong.
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
LonelyWizzard said:
I get that you don't want to spoil things so you can't talk about specifics, but I'd be interested to know what you disliked so much about the ending. Speaking as a HUGE Mass Effect fan myself, I still just can't make sense of how an ending that I found so satisfying, if imperfect, has upset people so much. The vitriol and and anger is baffling, and to hear of how it affected you so much you "couldn't even play any other games or watch any movies for a whole week" is something I really just can't understand. I cried when Mordin died in my game, but I really just don't get how anyone could find the game's ending that repulsive and distressing.
If you haven't already, go and watch the Tasteful, Understated Nerd Rage video on YouTube about it. If you can stomach a 40 minute long video from a man who does not have the most charismatic voice in the world, he says pretty much everything that needs to be said.
Alternatively, go read Shamus Young's blog entry [http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=15395] about it.
 

Artemicion

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I didn't think Gordon Freeman Saved My Life was too repetitive. I liked the repeating chorus; it's empowering and awesome.

Your rock songs kick so much ass.
 

TheLastSamurai14

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TimeLord said:
"This kind of "epic" 2 Steps To Hell Stuff is way over-used."

I completely disagree. I love "epic" instrumental songs and I personally would class them as one of my favourite types of music. That's probably why I love Crucible so much. I hope you attempt it again in the future :)
Brofist. I can't stress to people how much stuff like Crucible, X-Ray Dog, and Two Steps From Hell gets me either pumped up and ready to take on the world or makes me nearly break down and cry. That genre, if you can call it that, reveals some of my strongest emotions. Gav, if you're reading this, we want you to do more stuff like Crucible at some point!
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Artistic integrity.

This was wonderful but I'd love to hear it with lyrics. Would you ever consider a version with lyrics?

Entitled whining.
I see what you did there...

Anyway, great work. Can't wait for more instrumentals from you and for more Mass Effect songs - those are your best imo, with Commander Shepard still being my all-time favourite Miracle of Sound song. Because 'you'll never be better than Commander Shepard'.

Can you write about Back In Time next?
 

JaceArveduin

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Nice read, and the comments section always gives me a smile. I wish I could make it to the Escapist Expo, but sadly I'm a broke bastard from the plains.
 

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Always a pleasure to listen to and always a pleasure to read. It's kind of inspiring to hear a tale of someone genuinely enjoying and making money from their work. Congratulations to you sir, and may Miracle of Sound continue for many years :)
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
This makes no sense. Gordon doesn't talk so he certainly doesn't sing.

Nor does he think in third person narrative.
Well...

Anyway, I had no problem with 'Gordon Freeman Saved My Life'. Didn't find it repetitive at all. Then again, this is someone who'll infinite loop this:

And on my final note (for now anyway), I think guessing what I find to be the best MoS song is a no brainer. (here's a hint in case you need one [http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/574613_416594258352872_100000069047061_1629236_519737164_n.jpg])
 

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Really loved this song, and so many others of yours, would love to hear some longer ones though, even if it meant you released them less often.

You are pumping them out at a spectacular rate -winkwinknudgenudge-
 

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Perhaps it's my ears, but I don't think my headsets or cheap speakers are up to the task of playing Crucible. I get the feeling it's a deep rich piece, but I'm having trouble getting high quality sound out of my ear-buds.

Formica Archonis said:
So many possibilities. Gordon Freeman Causes Strife? Gordon Freeman Has a Knife? Gordon Freeman Plays the Fife? Or better yet, Gordon Freeman Plays Half-Life?
But he doesn't play Half-Life three apparently.
 

putowtin

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Congrat's, I take it you're finally settled in your new place (and final have a stable internet connection!)

Here's to many more years of classy music choices (raises beer!)
 

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And it's all thanks to you guys - the Escapist community. So thank you from the bottom of my heart. You have made me a very happy little nerd.
D'aaaaw. We love you, Gav :D Hope there are many more years to come.
[Glad we know your stance on ME3's ending. Well said.] Loved page 3.

And here's to hoping I can make the show in September!

TLS14 said:
Gav, if you're reading this, we want you to do more stuff like Crucible at some point!
I second this!
 

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BioWare is obviously evil, Gav. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
Seriously though, you are 99% of the reason why I joined the Escapist. May there be many more years of Miracle of Sound!

By the way, will you be making more gaming videos any time soon? I thought they were great fun.
 

soren7550

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Bah, knew that I'd come back here to say something else (never do really finish typing. Me and my big mouth [twitchy fingers?]).

All in all, I think this can sum up what I and others think of your work in general:
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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Garfy said:
LonelyWizzard said:
Speaking as a HUGE Mass Effect fan myself, I still just can't make sense of how an ending that I found so satisfying, if imperfect, has upset people so much. The vitriol and and anger is baffling, and to hear of how it affected you so much you "couldn't even play any other games or watch any movies for a whole week" is something I really just can't understand.
Absolutely, it was the RESPONSE to the ending that affected me far more than some mild disappointment over the ending itself.

NinjaDeathSlap said:
If you haven't already, go and watch the Tasteful, Understated Nerd Rage video on YouTube about it. If you can stomach a 40 minute long video from a man who does not have the most charismatic voice in the world, he says pretty much everything that needs to be said.
This is what I'm talking about, not content with disliking the ending you have to try and persuade others that their opinion is wrong.
That's not what I'm doing. He asked why people hate the ending so much so I'm giving him an answer. I could have spent half an hour writing out all the things I hate about the ending, but when the video I mentioned says it all better than I could anyway it's easier just to direct him towards it. I never, nor have ever said that people who like the ending are 'wrong'. Maybe they interpret things differently to me? Maybe some of the stuff that bothers me so much just doesn't matter to them? And that's perfectly ok. All I did was provide an answer to his genuine inquiry, and if we can't even do that anymore without being accused of trying to force our opinions on people, then... urgh.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Bloody genius and a great sense of humor.

Thank you for your wonderful music. I hope you make it big one day, you definately deserve it far more than what I've been listening to on the radio the last ten years...
 

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Nice to see both your loves finally came into one form. One form that happens to pay the bills! :D

Keep being awesome man.
 

MiracleOfSound

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well crafted song as opposed to the more popular trend of middle class white men badly gangsta rapping about their COD headshotting skills.
Hahaha.
This is funny because I've actually seen some of these videos and the description is pretty apt.
 

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For some reason I missed 'Crucible' when it came out, but after hearing it just now, I have to say, you really nailed it. The fact that there were no lyrics, the subtle percussion, the ups and downs, magnificent.
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
LonelyWizzard said:
I get that you don't want to spoil things so you can't talk about specifics, but I'd be interested to know what you disliked so much about the ending. Speaking as a HUGE Mass Effect fan myself, I still just can't make sense of how an ending that I found so satisfying, if imperfect, has upset people so much. The vitriol and and anger is baffling, and to hear of how it affected you so much you "couldn't even play any other games or watch any movies for a whole week" is something I really just can't understand. I cried when Mordin died in my game, but I really just don't get how anyone could find the game's ending that repulsive and distressing.
If you haven't already, go and watch the Tasteful, Understated Nerd Rage video on YouTube about it. If you can stomach a 40 minute long video from a man who does not have the most charismatic voice in the world, he says pretty much everything that needs to be said.
Unfortunately, I can't really watch a 40 minute video (I have a crazy slow internet connection) but I have read several articles about what people found so objectionable. Some points I can see were genuine problems with the ending, but some stuff I just disagree with. One point that is too often inaccurately described as a plot hole is the case of the
{exploding relays destroying solar systems. Its never actually said that the relays will explode, they are simply rendered inactive.}

I'm sorry, I don't want to start some big fight in an innapropriate comments thread. I just find it interesting that people with a comparable emotional investment in the game have had such wildly different responses to one part of it. I also want to try an show people that while the "Retake Mass Effect" crowd are certainly vocal, they do not represent every hardcore Mass Effect fan.

Also, because I haven't said it yet, Miracle of Sound is awesome!!!!
 

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LonelyWizzard said:
I don't want to turn this into a giant discussion about the ending, but I will say this: I hated the ending, but the point you brought up never especially bothered me, go figure. I guess that fell under suspension of disbelief for me.

Anyway, Gav, I remember when you were simply one of the more notable members of the community. It's so great to see all the good that's come your way.
Your music is good and you should feel good!

(btw, I had to reword that whole thing like 5 times so I didn't come off as a hipster, I-liked-it-before-it-was-cool type)
 

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Fun fact: should we decide to get hitched, my girlfriend and I have already decided one of our dances will be to "Joker's Song". Of course, we already sing it alongside each other (badly, we're neither of us musically inclined) during car trips but I figure the dance song is more important. Keep it up, man. We love it.
 

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Huh, for all the worry about your songs being repetitive I think it works for GFSML! Doesn't bug me at all, perhaps because I've listened to it so many times?
At any rate, no need for it to be Far less repetitive.
 

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TimeLord said:
"This kind of "epic" 2 Steps To Hell Stuff is way over-used."

I completely disagree. I love "epic" instrumental songs and I personally would class them as one of my favourite types of music. That's probably why I love Crucible so much. I hope you attempt it again in the future :)
This be true. I'm into that kind of stuff, and as far as I'm concerned, there can't be enough grand sweeping soundtrack-ish pieces in the world.

On a different note, Gav, you've been teasing a new Mass Effect song with Malukah in that one interview piece. Now that you did "Crucible" and Malu went on an made "Reignite" on her own, is that outta the window or will there be more?
 

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Glad to hear all this is working out for you and I'm hoping many more years of Miracles to come. Hopefully in 2029 when Episode 3 comes out we'll be able to hear how you do a song like "Gordon Freeman Saved My Life" about Half Life with the benefit of experience.

Oh and great as Crucible is to properly capture the feel of Mass Effect you really should have put a rap remix of the last verse of New Black Gold on the end :)

Edit: I'm being facetious here of course, but in all seriousness the more I think about the more I think it would have absolutely made the song for me if there was a slightly jarring musical influence from New Black Gold at the end.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
I've had countless messages from wonderful, interesting everyday people who the songs touched in some way.
...Didn't i tell you it will be like this ? ;]
Somehow i'm glad you're doing what you like and you're happy with that.
 

MiracleOfSound

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LonelyWizzard said:
The vitriol and and anger is baffling, and to hear of how it affected you so much you "couldn't even play any other games or watch any movies for a whole week" is something I really just can't understand.
This explains it very eloquently:

 

MiracleOfSound

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mrgbgonzalez said:
Couldn't have put it better myself.
I've been listening to The Miracle of Sound since its debut here at the Escapist and even when the songs are inspired by games I haven't played or just don't really like, they are prime gold... And have actually gotten me to spread the word and repost a few of them (talking a little but about the games that inspired them) on my guilds blog (shireforce.com. its all in portuguese, so... well, its there).

Its inpiring to see the passion you have for your work and the heart you put on all your songs. Wanna keep listening to many, many, MANY more in the years to come, for sure!

btw: My personal favourite is "Age of the Dragon". Power, melody, heart, emotion. This song rules a great big huge one!
Thank you very much, and happy first post :)
 

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Said this during the Q&A you held, but you're seriously one of the coolest guys on the Internet by taking the time out to encourage and hold a dialogue with your fans, and listen to their criticisms and treat them like equals (except for the ones who don't deserve that treatment, but there's usually an amazingly snarky put-down swiftly coming their way). The way you constantly change your style, bringing something new and refreshing with every song is astounding, and while I may not like all of your songs that's simply down to personal taste as the musicianship remains at a high standard constantly.

It's excellent to hear you're doing well now and so good to hear from someone who genuinely enjoys what they do, and your success only serves to emphasise that if something is good enough, people will pay for it to support the artist.

Congratulations, keep being a happy little nerd and keep making us a community of happy little nerds.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Dark Link said:
Said this during the Q&A you held, but you're seriously one of the coolest guys on the Internet by taking the time out to encourage and hold a dialogue with your fans, and listen to their criticisms and treat them like equals (except for the ones who don't deserve that treatment, but there's usually an amazingly snarky put-down swiftly coming their way). The way you constantly change your style, bringing something new and refreshing with every song is astounding, and while I may not like all of your songs that's simply down to personal taste as the musicianship remains at a high standard constantly.

It's excellent to hear you're doing well now and so good to hear from someone who genuinely enjoys what they do, and your success only serves to emphasise that if something is good enough, people will pay for it to support the artist.

Congratulations, keep being a happy little nerd and keep making us a community of happy little nerds.
That was lovely to read, thanks :)