Crysis 2

[Contextualizer]

That video can be summed up as ''My demonstration of me being a graphics whore and a PC snob.'

Why do people say things like this?

Don't they understand graphics affect a lot more than just pretty images?

 

[Nomanslander]

Why do i fell like this topic could degenerate into pompous PC owners (and I'm a high end gaming PC owner...0o) bickering over how console tards shouldn't be allowed to play their glorious games.

Oh and Diablo 3 should be ported onto consoles...HAH take that!!....>

 

[Joa_Belgium]

The new setting is New York and it is on the pc,ps3 and the 360. Would anyone else who didn't get a chance to play the original prefer the original be released before the sequel on the consoles? Or am I the only one who didn't play it yet?

You're not alone. I played portions, but I sadly lack the amount of funds to upgrade my computer to a godlike machine of doom. I wouldn't actually care if they didn't release the first one for consoles, I'll just pick up the second Crysis and read the plot summary of the first one on Wikipedia.

 

[era81]

Why do i fell like this topic could degenerate into pompous PC owners (and I'm a high end gaming PC owner...0o) bickering over how console tards shouldn't be allowed to play their glorious games.

Oh and Diablo 3 should be ported onto consoles...HAH take that!!....>

If it does it wasn't my intention I am in fact a "console tard".

 

[Contextualizer]

Why do i fell like this topic could degenerate into pompous PC owners (and I'm a high end gaming PC owner...0o) bickering over how console tards shouldn't be allowed to play their glorious games.

Oh and Diablo 3 should be ported onto consoles...HAH take that!!....>

This happening is more of an imagined cliche than reality that causes even more problems than what you are saying does.

Do you see how that is harmful?

 

[Contextualizer]

That video can be summed up as ''My demonstration of me being a graphics whore and a PC snob.'

Why do people say things like this?

Don't they understand graphics affect a lot more than just pretty images?

Uhh...how do graphics not just affect pretty images? That IS the definition.

...And you're only proving my initial point

Graphics isn't just pretty post-processing and shadows. It's the backbone for how big and advanced your levels will be and increasingly, it's going to be how interactive those levels will be in terms of destructibility.

 

[Sh0ckFyre]

My first thought was using NYC as a cop out for the console's limited hardware, but then I realized how awesome Crytek's games are. I'm excited for this game more than a lot of games that will be coming out. (This, Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, and Call of Duty 7)

 

[Nomanslander]

Why do i fell like this topic could degenerate into pompous PC owners (and I'm a high end gaming PC owner...0o) bickering over how console tards shouldn't be allowed to play their glorious games.

Oh and Diablo 3 should be ported onto consoles...HAH take that!!....>

This happening is more of an imagined cliche than reality that causes even more problems than what you are saying does.

Do you see how that is harmful?

I don't know...

I took one look at this video:

And I saw 15 pages of comments PC gamers talking out of their noses...0o

Some thing I generally have come to expect from the sort again and again and again and again...>>

 

[Contextualizer]

Physics are not part of graphics.

And I know I was proving your point.

I don't think you understand what graphics are.

Without physics, graphics in motion don't exist. They are incredibly tied together; enough so that Nvidia decided to incorporate their flavor of physics support into their graphics cards.

 

[Anticitizen_Two]

That video can be summed up as ''My demonstration of me being a graphics whore and a PC snob.'

Why do people say things like this?

Don't they understand graphics affect a lot more than just pretty images?

Uhh...how do graphics not just affect pretty images? That IS the definition.

...And you're only proving my initial point

Graphics isn't just pretty post-processing and shadows. It's the backbone for how big and advanced your levels will be and increasingly, it's going to be how interactive those levels will be in terms of destructibility.

Destructibility and interactivity, while nice, are essentially "pretty images." Neither of them affects the core gameplay of the game in a large way. They're put in mainly for the visual effect. That said, they do add quite a bit to a game.

 

[JoGribbs]

Crytek UK (formerly Free Radical Design) are working on this, so I'm cautiously looking forward to it. I'm also hoping that going bankrupt, losing most of their key development staff, being bought out by a larger studio and having to work on a franchise that isn't theirs hasn't negatively effected their output.

Considering their last release was Haze, it's gonna be hard for them to do any worse.

Dr Doak himself (former Rare deity) jumped ship with the buy out. Abandon all hope.

I'm actually really excited to see what Doaks doing over at Pumpkin Breach, his new studio. Hopefully something good.

 

[saejox]

no!!! jungle was fine. i like open spaces :'(

 

[Anticitizen_Two]

Destructibility and interactivity, while nice, are essentially "pretty images." Neither of them affects the core gameplay of the game in a large way. They're put in mainly for the visual effect. That said, they do add quite a bit to a game.

This is arguing semantics. They were showing off an unfinished game and that is that.

It's not a fair comparison either. Let's see Cryengine 2 with using a computer with equal ''power'' to a console.

It's more than just semantics. Graphics are good for a game to have but not by any means essential. A game can have crappy graphics but great gameplay and be a great game, but a game with crappy gameplay and great graphics is not a good game. (By the way, I'm not alluding to Crysis specifically by saying this). People get mad at PC gamers if they let their advanced technology get in the way of actually just playing and enjoying games. As a PC gamer myself I of course don't appreciate the stereotype that we're all elitist graphics whores, but from a certain perspective there is some truth to that.

 

[ToxinArrow]

They're gonna make it cross platform eh? Maybe they'll have to improve the code so it doesn't require a graphics card made 10 years in the future to run it at highest options with a good framerate. I have 2 gtx260's and it still only runs at an acceptable framerate, and never uses more than one core on my proc. Crap programming (and no I couldn't do better). Pretty tho.

Your GTX 260 came out 10 years before Crysis did?

I think you misread me. I said it requires a card made 10 years in the future- ie. AFTER the release of the game, not before. Obviously I was exaggerating, but I found the performance with 2 GTX260's SLI'd to be unimpressive, and I got them at least a year after the release of Crysis, probably more than a year later, don't remember. They provided serviceable performance, frames never dropped below 20fps and usually averaged out to 32-35ish, but the code could certainly make far better use of the resources at hand, as everyone who cares already knows. Given that the game doesn't look THAT much better than the UT3 engine, with which I can routinely get far above 60fps, I expected better.

That's pretty sad, as my old 8800 GT could give me 35-50 FPS on very high.

 

[braincore02]

I think you misread me. I said it requires a card made 10 years in the future- ie. AFTER the release of the game, not before. Obviously I was exaggerating, but I found the performance with 2 GTX260's SLI'd to be unimpressive, and I got them at least a year after the release of Crysis, probably more than a year later, don't remember. They provided serviceable performance, frames never dropped below 20fps and usually averaged out to 32-35ish, but the code could certainly make far better use of the resources at hand, as everyone who cares already knows. Given that the game doesn't look THAT much better than the UT3 engine, with which I can routinely get far above 60fps, I expected better.

That's pretty sad, as my old 8800 GT could give me 35-50 FPS on very high.

Well I was averaging what I saw during firefights, when the framerate really matters. I certainly saw 50+fps here and there when the action died down, depending on where I was looking in the environment. Are you saying it never dropped below 35 on your card? I find that really hard to believe.

 

[ToxinArrow]

I think you misread me. I said it requires a card made 10 years in the future- ie. AFTER the release of the game, not before. Obviously I was exaggerating, but I found the performance with 2 GTX260's SLI'd to be unimpressive, and I got them at least a year after the release of Crysis, probably more than a year later, don't remember. They provided serviceable performance, frames never dropped below 20fps and usually averaged out to 32-35ish, but the code could certainly make far better use of the resources at hand, as everyone who cares already knows. Given that the game doesn't look THAT much better than the UT3 engine, with which I can routinely get far above 60fps, I expected better.

That's pretty sad, as my old 8800 GT could give me 35-50 FPS on very high.

Well I was averaging what I saw during firefights, when the framerate really matters. I certainly saw 50+fps here and there when the action died down, depending on where I was looking in the environment. Are you saying it never dropped below 35 on your card? I find that really hard to believe.

Once or twice during intensely epic fight scenes (and I mean with ~10+ people with armor/air support). Other than that, yes, my 8800 GT stayed above 35. I always have FRAPS open. My new SINGLE GTX 260 destroys this game.

And this is only Crysis 1. Warhead fares much better because of the engine optimizations, and Crysis 2 I suspect will only be even better on PC.

 

[Anticitizen_Two]

It's more than just semantics. Graphics are good for a game to have but not by any means essential. A game can have crappy graphics but great gameplay and be a great game, but a game with crappy gameplay and great graphics is not a good game. (By the way, I'm not alluding to Crysis specifically by saying this). People get mad at PC gamers if they let their advanced technology get in the way of actually just playing and enjoying games. As a PC gamer myself I of course don't appreciate the stereotype that we're all elitist graphics whores, but from a certain perspective there is some truth to that.

Not talking about you or all PC gamers. Just the kind of PC gamers who make videos like that.

Oh, that's my bad. Sorry.

 

[Vie]

Wait wait, Crysis 2 is due out 2011 right?

And its set in New York?

And presumably you can still blow up (At least small) buildings?

Am I the only one who can see a few potential problems ahead of it, vis a vis a certain 10 year anniversary?

 

[Contextualizer]

Destructibility and interactivity, while nice, are essentially "pretty images." Neither of them affects the core gameplay of the game in a large way. They're put in mainly for the visual effect. That said, they do add quite a bit to a game.

This is arguing semantics. They were showing off an unfinished game and that is that.

It's not a fair comparison either. Let's see Cryengine 2 with using a computer with equal ''power'' to a console.

It's more than just semantics. Graphics are good for a game to have but not by any means essential. A game can have crappy graphics but great gameplay and be a great game, but a game with crappy gameplay and great graphics is not a good game. (By the way, I'm not alluding to Crysis specifically by saying this). People get mad at PC gamers if they let their advanced technology get in the way of actually just playing and enjoying games. As a PC gamer myself I of course don't appreciate the stereotype that we're all elitist graphics whores, but from a certain perspective there is some truth to that.

And what's gameplay? Do you think the gameplay in Crysis or BF2 would have been any different if the levels were as small as they were in Call of Duty or Halo?

Why not just render everything in wireframe a la the Battlezone? Or just make all the levels sealed corridors a la Wolfenstein 3D?

 

[JayDig]

New York? What human army is there to fight? I dont want to fight floating aliens the whole game.

I was hoping for Nomad and Psycho co-op on those fucked up islands.