Cure to 'Alcoholism'???

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KarmicToast

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Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. Goddamn it Otto, you are an alcoholic. Goddamn it Otto, you have Lupis... one of those two doesn't sound right.

RIP Mitch...
 

Bullfrog1983

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Well... you could just stop drinking alcohol. Failing that, eat more instead of drinking a lot - or adopt a different addiction. Like a drug that supposedly cures alcoholism.
 

Radelaide

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runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
 

jasoncyrus

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Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
PPssstttt Wikipedia /= truth.

It's not a disease, addiction sure, disease no. It's a DEPENDANCE created by a TOXIN. Hence not a disease.
 

Jumpman

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aren't muscle relaxants generally not a good thing to pump into your body? Even if it does what he says it does, I'd worry about what other health issues it might cause.
 

Radelaide

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jasoncyrus said:
Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
PPssstttt Wikipedia /= truth.

It's not a disease, addiction sure, disease no. It's a DEPENDANCE created by a TOXIN. Hence not a disease.
Actually, Wikipedia can be a very reliable source. It IS a disease and until you experience it first hand (My stepdad is an alcoholic), you don't realise it. The doctors and nurses I've spoken to conclude that it's a disease and an addiction. Those toxins destroy vital organs (the disease), while you're blissfully unaware because of the alcohol's depressant effect (the addiction)
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Just drink more. You'll forget about all of this silly "alcoholism" shit.
When you remember again, drink even more.
I'm going to second that. I wouldn't call myself an alcoholic...but I LUUUUURV drinking. It's as Australian as sausages on a BBQ.
 

jasoncyrus

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Radelaide said:
jasoncyrus said:
Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
PPssstttt Wikipedia /= truth.

It's not a disease, addiction sure, disease no. It's a DEPENDANCE created by a TOXIN. Hence not a disease.
Actually, Wikipedia can be a very reliable source. It IS a disease and until you experience it first hand (My stepdad is an alcoholic), you don't realise it. The doctors and nurses I've spoken to conclude that it's a disease and an addiction. Those toxins destroy vital organs (the disease), while you're blissfully unaware because of the alcohol's depressant effect (the addiction)
Then your father is in hands of morons. Take him to a real hospital. One that knows the difference between a disease (a condition involving living organism) and POISONING.

Toxin /= disease. The depressant effect is not the addiction since many alcoholics get angry, happy, giddy, etc etc, and are still addicted. Whoever told you this is an idiot, go talk to some REAL doctors who didnt get their medical degree from the back of a cereal box.
 

DrX_1030

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i found a cure along time ago, its called not drinking, i also have a break through cure against obesity, it involves eating in moderation adn trying to be alittle active *gasp*. i know it sounds radical but hey, it sure beats pumping urself full of muscle relaxants
 

Radelaide

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jasoncyrus said:
Then your father is in hands of morons. Take him to a real hospital. One that knows the difference between a disease (a condition involving living organism) and POISONING.

Toxin /= disease. The depressant effect is not the addiction since many alcoholics get angry, happy, giddy, etc etc, and are still addicted. Whoever told you this is an idiot, go talk to some REAL doctors who didnt get their medical degree from the back of a cereal box.
Not to sound rude, but, can I ask where you got your medical degree? The depressant is the addiction. Many alcoholics drink to GET that effect. And btw, stop insulting people you don't know.
 

Fearzone

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Baclofen benefitting alcoholism is an easy hypothesis to test.

So doctor... how about doing some clinical research before writing a "best-seller" about it?

Rats aren't necessary if clinical safety of baclofen has been established. Getting a study funded and approved by ethics committees (per the wikipedia article the mechanism of action of baclofen is analogous to alcohol) is a different matter.

Bottom line: sounds like the guy is a quack.
 

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Bulletinmybrain said:
2 beers day can actually be good for you. TWO that is.
Funny, for all the talk about how healthy it is to drink herbal tea and crap like that, alcohol and coffee are the only two beverages I know with health benefits proven by medial research (if consumed in moderation). Works for me!
 

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jasoncyrus said:
Radelaide said:
jasoncyrus said:
Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
PPssstttt Wikipedia /= truth.

It's not a disease, addiction sure, disease no. It's a DEPENDANCE created by a TOXIN. Hence not a disease.
Actually, Wikipedia can be a very reliable source. It IS a disease and until you experience it first hand (My stepdad is an alcoholic), you don't realise it. The doctors and nurses I've spoken to conclude that it's a disease and an addiction. Those toxins destroy vital organs (the disease), while you're blissfully unaware because of the alcohol's depressant effect (the addiction)
Then your father is in hands of morons. Take him to a real hospital. One that knows the difference between a disease (a condition involving living organism) and POISONING.

Toxin /= disease. The depressant effect is not the addiction since many alcoholics get angry, happy, giddy, etc etc, and are still addicted. Whoever told you this is an idiot, go talk to some REAL doctors who didnt get their medical degree from the back of a cereal box.
And from this I suppose YOU have a medical degree?
 

runtheplacered

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jasoncyrus said:
Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
PPssstttt Wikipedia /= truth.

It's not a disease, addiction sure, disease no. It's a DEPENDANCE created by a TOXIN. Hence not a disease.
How many different times do people need to show you the definition of a disease before you just have to submit to the fact that it is indeed a disease?

A disease is an abnormality in bodily function. Particularly if it causes death, dysfunction, distress, or even social problems. Take a look in a medical dictionary. If that doesn't clear it up for you, I'm not sure what will.
 

runtheplacered

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Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
Are you just backing me up? Not sure why you replied to me with that. We're in agreement.
 

Radelaide

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runtheplacered said:
Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
Are you just backing me up? Not sure why you replied to me with that. We're in agreement.
I was backing you up. I was giving you more evidence against SuperFriendBFG. :)
 

runtheplacered

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Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
Radelaide said:
runtheplacered said:
SuperFriendBFG said:
Alcoholism isn't a goddamn disease
Why isn't it? A disease is an abnormality in bodily functions. That's all. Nothing more then that. I'd say that fits the bill just fine.
"Modern medical definitions describe alcoholism as a disease and addiction which results in a persistent use of alcohol despite negative consequences." Source: <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism>Wikipedia.
Are you just backing me up? Not sure why you replied to me with that. We're in agreement.
I was backing you up. I was giving you more evidence against SuperFriendBFG. :)
In that case. This is for you [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKziGuZyNl8[/link]
 

mr mcshiznit

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I vote stop drinking/Rehab. I no this is not a cure but honestly i have great respect for people who kick addictions the good ol' fashion way(cold Turkey), and remain sober.