Czech President Issues Appeal For Arma 3 Devs

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<img src="http://s91291220.onlinehome.us/formica/golden-dawn-were-not-nazis-really.jpg" align=right>Why do people keep expecting a reasoned response from a country that lets Nazis run amok? Like, Heil Hitler [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)]. Oh, they CLAIM they're not, of course.

Seriously. Look at them. These are the guys who are saying "We're not really Nazis, that's silly." THESE GUYS RIGHT HERE.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Arma 3 is not a defense. They work for a company that is known to sell military intelligence. The United States has the same law against photography of sensitive military installations(even from public areas).
When you can't distinguish between tools (here, simulations like ArmA and VBS) and intelligence, I suggest you keep out of conversations like this.
VBS is a realistic Military Simulator that uses real world data and only sold to Militaries. Military Intelligence is information collection and analysis approaches to provide guidance and direction to commanders in support of their decisions. That exactly what VBS is design for.
 

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I think we've got some of those "Golden Dawn" neo-Nazis loose in this thread.

And a little thought exercise for the two nimrods supporting this travesty of justice. Lockheed also makes military simulators. Should all Lockheed employees who visit Limnos be arrested, just in case they work for the division that makes military simulators, and just in case they take a photograph with the Mayor of Limnos' cow in the background?
 

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Baldr said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Arma 3 is not a defense. They work for a company that is known to sell military intelligence. The United States has the same law against photography of sensitive military installations(even from public areas).
When you can't distinguish between tools (here, simulations like ArmA and VBS) and intelligence, I suggest you keep out of conversations like this.
VBS is a realistic Military Simulator that uses real world data and only sold to Militaries. Military Intelligence is information collection and analysis approaches to provide guidance and direction to commanders in support of their decisions. That exactly what VBS is design for.
Real world data publicly available. Military agencies will not trust critical intelligence they gathered to a foreign developer that also happens to sell tools to other foreign militaries.

And these are ArmA developers, not VBS.
 

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The Rogue Wolf said:
I could understand this sort of kerfluffle happening if, say, Americans blundered into Iran or North Korea. But Greece? Arresting Czech tourists for espionage? World's gone topsy-turvy these days.
Greece still thinks they have relevance. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
 

Baldr

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Arma 3 is not a defense. They work for a company that is known to sell military intelligence. The United States has the same law against photography of sensitive military installations(even from public areas).
When you can't distinguish between tools (here, simulations like ArmA and VBS) and intelligence, I suggest you keep out of conversations like this.
VBS is a realistic Military Simulator that uses real world data and only sold to Militaries. Military Intelligence is information collection and analysis approaches to provide guidance and direction to commanders in support of their decisions. That exactly what VBS is design for.
Real world data publicly available. Military agencies will not trust critical intelligence they gathered to a foreign developer that also happens to sell tools to other foreign militaries.

And these are ArmA developers, not VBS.
Arma or VBS, doesn't matter, it is the same company in the eyes of any countries' law. We don't know what it is VBS, it not exactly publicly available. There could be classified stuff from any country in there.
 

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Baldr said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Arma 3 is not a defense. They work for a company that is known to sell military intelligence. The United States has the same law against photography of sensitive military installations(even from public areas).
When you can't distinguish between tools (here, simulations like ArmA and VBS) and intelligence, I suggest you keep out of conversations like this.
VBS is a realistic Military Simulator that uses real world data and only sold to Militaries. Military Intelligence is information collection and analysis approaches to provide guidance and direction to commanders in support of their decisions. That exactly what VBS is design for.
Real world data publicly available. Military agencies will not trust critical intelligence they gathered to a foreign developer that also happens to sell tools to other foreign militaries.

And these are ArmA developers, not VBS.
Arma or VBS, doesn't matter, it is the same company in the eyes of any countries' law. We don't know what it is VBS, it not exactly publicly available. There could be classified stuff from any country in there.
Oh yeah, sure. American and Australian military handing over classified intelligence to a Czech developer. Could happen.
 

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Baldr said:
Arma or VBS, doesn't matter, it is the same company in the eyes of any countries' law. We don't know what it is VBS, it not exactly publicly available. There could be classified stuff from any country in there.
Lockheed Martin and EADS also makes military simulators as I said in my earlier post. Should they be arresting all Lockheed and EADS employees who visit Limnos, just in case they behave suspiciously around the Mayor's cow?

EDIT: fixed quote
 

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Andrew_C said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Arma or VBS, doesn't matter, it is the same company in the eyes of any countries' law. We don't know what it is VBS, it not exactly publicly available. There could be classified stuff from any country in there.
Lockheed Martin and EADS also makes military simulators as I said in my earlier post. Should they be arresting all Lockheed and EADS employees who visit Limnos, just in case they behave suspiciously around the Mayor's cow?
Ummm, you messed up your quoting. I was the one pointing out that calling Bohemia an intelligence agency for multiple sovereign military is ridiculous.
 

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Ummm, you messed up your quoting. I was the one pointing out that calling Bohemia an intelligence agency for multiple sovereign military is ridiculous.
Oops, sorry about that! Thanks for spotting it.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Raiyan 1.0 said:
Baldr said:
Arma 3 is not a defense. They work for a company that is known to sell military intelligence. The United States has the same law against photography of sensitive military installations(even from public areas).
When you can't distinguish between tools (here, simulations like ArmA and VBS) and intelligence, I suggest you keep out of conversations like this.
VBS is a realistic Military Simulator that uses real world data and only sold to Militaries. Military Intelligence is information collection and analysis approaches to provide guidance and direction to commanders in support of their decisions. That exactly what VBS is design for.
Real world data publicly available. Military agencies will not trust critical intelligence they gathered to a foreign developer that also happens to sell tools to other foreign militaries.

And these are ArmA developers, not VBS.
Arma or VBS, doesn't matter, it is the same company in the eyes of any countries' law. We don't know what it is VBS, it not exactly publicly available. There could be classified stuff from any country in there.
Oh yeah, sure. American and Australian military handing over classified intelligence to a Czech developer. Could happen.
Out of the 196 countries, there bound to be something that someone considers classified. Of course they are not really going to get access to more powerful militaries like the US(unless they hand it over.

Andrew_C said:
Baldr said:
Arma or VBS, doesn't matter, it is the same company in the eyes of any countries' law. We don't know what it is VBS, it not exactly publicly available. There could be classified stuff from any country in there.
Lockheed Martin and EADS also makes military simulators as I said in my earlier post. Should they be arresting all Lockheed and EADS employees who visit Limnos, just in case they behave suspiciously around the Mayor's cow?

EDIT: fixed quote
If they were taking pictures of Military installations, I wouldn't see a problem with them being arrested.