d&d 3rd vs 4th for beginners

[The_Spirit_of_Epic]

im a man who plays 3.5e who have read the players handbook for 4e. i started reading it and my brain nearly exploded in confusion. my friend told me to "not think of it as 3.5e" but my mind is going "this isn't DnD."

i even think DnD basic is less confusing then 4e.

in short: i don't like 4e.

 

[migo]

I'm a rpg systems junkie myself. I collect and absorb systems from all manner of games just for personal amusement. I was also on the 4th edition is lame train until I stopped to really take it in. It's actually a pretty great system full of lots of neat twists on ideas and good character customization.

That said?

Call of Cthulhu or Shadowrun.

Call of Cthulhu certainly wins out in terms of having a system that's easy to understand - game concept though I think would only jive with the type of person who plays Tales of the Arabian Nights, so I'd suggest a more general BRP over CoC.

Shadowrun has an incredibly wicked setting, and the great thing about the system is it's mathematically pretty compatible with WoD, and by extension ORE. You can tweak the hell out of the mechanics however you like, or even change them quite significantly without having to do much conversion work.

 

[me48072]

thank you for all of the post i'm going to have to suck it up and play 4ed i guess

 

[Flying-Emu]

4th is super easy to learn, but I think that 3.5 is superior.