a "Character" should never be retired for an "Actor"... as a fellow actor, i know Heath wouldn't want that, and it just keep's poeple dwelling on the past. in a couple years, someone else might come along and then everyone will love that Joker performance. we should just be happy to see our favorite characters portrayed differently by different people. I tend to look at the big picture.
Dark Knight Fanboys: "Joker Should Be Retired"
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For now, I think they should leave it, for the sake of continuity. I'm sure they think this too. It's OK to swap the actress playing Batman's love interest; I barely noticed anyway. But to change the Joker's actor would be very noticeable right now. Maybe wait until the next series of films, or when Christian Bale hangs up his cape and underpants (*fingers crossed* to Adam West)
Ledger's performance was overrated, and he no doubt suffered from Dead Actor Syndrome, where everyone blows everything related to the person out of proportion.
Nicholson did a better job of bringing comic-book Joker to the big screen, and Mark Hammil is THE best Joker, period. Ledger comes at a distant third. His character may have been itneresting, but he suffered from the same problem as everything in Nolan's new, more realistic Batman movies (great though they may be): the Joker, along with Batman, Gotham City, and pretty much everything else, was never MEANT to be made realistic. The fun about the comics and the animated series is that they are dark, gothic fantasy. Once you turn Gotham from a gothic nightmare to AnyCity, USA, it instantly loses part of its character, and its charm. And the same goes for the characters.
The movies are good, mind you. I really, really do like them, but to me, they are more like an Elseworlds tale of an alternate reality in the DC universe, than a proper adaptation of Batman in the first place.
Nicholson did a better job of bringing comic-book Joker to the big screen, and Mark Hammil is THE best Joker, period. Ledger comes at a distant third. His character may have been itneresting, but he suffered from the same problem as everything in Nolan's new, more realistic Batman movies (great though they may be): the Joker, along with Batman, Gotham City, and pretty much everything else, was never MEANT to be made realistic. The fun about the comics and the animated series is that they are dark, gothic fantasy. Once you turn Gotham from a gothic nightmare to AnyCity, USA, it instantly loses part of its character, and its charm. And the same goes for the characters.
The movies are good, mind you. I really, really do like them, but to me, they are more like an Elseworlds tale of an alternate reality in the DC universe, than a proper adaptation of Batman in the first place.
Jesus, they're still at it? They started that shit last year. My responce to them was that Heath wasn't even half as good as the new (revamped as of April 2007) comic book Joker, that he looks like the hobo lovechild of the Crow & Beetlejuice, & that he's no Mark Hamill.
$5 says that is 10 years when another Batman trillogy comes out, these wastetards protest the latest Joker in front of theaters, watch it half a year after it's DVD release out of curiosity, then their little club breaks into 3; 1/3 come to their sences & quit, 1/3 stick with their original message, & 1/3 develop a new devout fanclub to the newer Joker.
$5 says that is 10 years when another Batman trillogy comes out, these wastetards protest the latest Joker in front of theaters, watch it half a year after it's DVD release out of curiosity, then their little club breaks into 3; 1/3 come to their sences & quit, 1/3 stick with their original message, & 1/3 develop a new devout fanclub to the newer Joker.
Any and all Bat-films..... ugh bloody nerds. I can understand for Nolan's Batman(that is if it continues with continuity). Other then that, fuck it let's see who else is man-err-crazy enough to wear The Joker's pants.
wow...thats stupid...granted i LOVED the performance of the joker by heath ledger...but im sure he ISNT THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO IT!
why dont they make it to where this should be how the joker is portrayed? in my opinion it took the rawest form of the joker and added its own twist to where he's less of a crazy cackleing mobster and more of a hell spawn anarchist. (the one that makes you shit brix.)
by the way... does this mean the next batman villain is Harley Quinn?
why dont they make it to where this should be how the joker is portrayed? in my opinion it took the rawest form of the joker and added its own twist to where he's less of a crazy cackleing mobster and more of a hell spawn anarchist. (the one that makes you shit brix.)
by the way... does this mean the next batman villain is Harley Quinn?