Dark Knight Rises Cinematographer Bashes The Avengers

[Nami nom noms]

I liked the latest batman film, but storytelling wise it sucked next to the Avengers.
The Avengers had a simple story, but it was also simply told and fun for it.
The dark knight rises had a simple story, but it was long winded, largely uneventful and ultimately pointless through the ending.

At least the Avengers doesn't vary in volume from minute, barely audible whispers to ridiculously loud explosions. At least it had its characters doing what they were supposed to do, instead of Batman's attempt to wade in and kick Bane's ass, rather then using his BRAINS and EQUIPMENT.
Naturally he gets pwned... But in the rematch he does THE EXACT SAME THING.

Yeah I'm sorry; he's got no right to criticise the clearly superior film on these points.

I'll stop my rant now

 

[Sexy Devil]

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[Milanezi]

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[sideshow]

I'm sorry but if you've worked on a comic book movie and you criticise another comic book movie, your criticism is invalid.

 

[Zefar]

I really like The Avengers and for me it's at the top with of the list of best Super Hero movies. Iron Man gets first place though.

Still I did not mind those wide angles at all because I see so many things going on at the same time. Then we had a clear view of what was going on and the heroes told each other what they where doing. Like Iron man luring that monster in the huge fight.
Had it been some other block buster film that part would certainly just have popped in out of bloody no where.

I haven't seen the latest Batman movie but I did see the two others. They where good too, though the Joker got around way to good without being detected. Honestly, getting away from the cops and getting into the hospital without a problem? :/

I just don't buy that.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

Sounds to me that he is a bit of a snob. Haven't seen TDKR yet, so it'll be interesting to see what he finds to be good cinematography. But, judging from the previous two Batman films, it's probably going to be en par with The Avengers.

TDKR had a better story and setting.
The Avengers had better action and setpieces.

Both are really good for different reasons.

TDKR ends a juggernaut trilogy excellently.
The Avengers realized a 20 year long wet dream perfectly.

 

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[Rooster Cogburn]

To be fair, he did say The Avengers was an appalling film. He didn't just comment on the cinematography. But still, consider the source. Most of the people in this thread aren't even talking about cinematography. And I think the cinematography in Dark Knight Rises was on a higher plane of existence than The Avengers. I really don't think the cinematography in the former was that good, or the latter was worse than average, but still.

Also, to those downplaying the importance of cinematography, especially as compared to money spent, take a gander:

There's a lot more to cinematography than just camera angle. But yes, camera angle is pretty friggin' important. Enjoy your bazillion dollar sets that no one will notice or care about. Cinematography is more important. The craziest thing is, most of the sets in The Avengers weren't very good even for that type of movie.

 

[Tony2077]

hmm sound like someone isn't happy their movie didn't do as well as they hoped or he may have something i don't know i like the avengers and wouldn't touch the new batman series with a 10 foot pole

 

[WanderingFool]

-lot of whining and bitching because the movie he worked on wasnt nearly as successful as The Avengers.

But in all seriousness, I havent seen TDKR, so IDK, but...


Thats all the cinematography I need to love this movie.

 

[karamazovnew]

I don't want to defend The Avengers (mainly because it doesn't need defending), but if you want a great BAD example of a shot that completely throws you out of the movie, here it is:

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When Bruce somehow teleports himself to Gotham City with a clean shave and a leather jacket.... OUCH!

And if we were to compare the story:

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Batman has basically 60 seconds to clear the city with a bomb attached to his craft. Somehow he needs to reach at MACH 2 to do that. Not even the Saturn 5 rocket has that much acceleration in normal air. And yes, I've underestimated the safe distance by at least 10 km.

It's small things like these that make me dislike a movie that takes itself too seriously. The Avengers has a lot of problems of its own. But it's an action comedy with superheroes, so what could you ask from it? In contrast, Batman had a WEAAAAAAK story, I mean weak, weak, weak,

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Why on earth didn't they just blow up the town without that whole revolution stupidity?

and pure bad editing. I'm a huge Batman fan (I don't give a damn about Marvel), I loved the first two movies, but a bad movie is a bad movie. Makes us appreciate the good ones even more.

 

[Starik20X6]

So? He sounds like an ass. Yeah I know "it's like, you know, his opinion, man" and all that, but I'm sick of this idea that if I like X I'm not allowed to like Y as well. I like both movies for different reasons, what are you gonna do about it? The Dark Knight Rises has intense acting, a gripping plot and Anne Hathaway in a skintight outfit. The Avengers has kick-ass battles, interesting characters and Scarlett Johansson in a skintight outfit. Stop trying to make me pick sides in some imaginary dick-measuring contest.

 

[Extragorey]

I can relate. Not on this particular issue, mind you - I thought both movies were amazing.
But I'm well aware of what it's like to watch a movie with professional knowledge in a particular area and see things that completely ruin immersion for you that most people don't even notice at all.