Dark Knight Rises Set Photo Hints at Lazarus Pit
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I'm thinking maybe this is green screen, maybe it's supposed to be a super-long pit someone falls down that they'll add in the finished film.
Or it was deliberately put on the net by Nolan to baffle us nerds.
I don't know, it seems out-of-character for the great director to make his Batman series, grounded in reality, into a cartoon world.
He NEVER uses fantastical elements in his movies, besides Inception, or that machine in 'The Prestige' that Nikola Tesla built. I'm not saying anymore in case anyone hasn't seen it, but even THAT seemed out of place from the rest of the film.
...also, 'Dark Knight Rises'? Come on, they could have done better than that.
Or it was deliberately put on the net by Nolan to baffle us nerds.
I don't know, it seems out-of-character for the great director to make his Batman series, grounded in reality, into a cartoon world.
He NEVER uses fantastical elements in his movies, besides Inception, or that machine in 'The Prestige' that Nikola Tesla built. I'm not saying anymore in case anyone hasn't seen it, but even THAT seemed out of place from the rest of the film.
...also, 'Dark Knight Rises'? Come on, they could have done better than that.
...I feel ashamed, like I'm not a proper Batman nerd, but who or what is JGL?THEoriginalBRIEN said:
My theory is that it will turn out to be either a landmark or an entrance to something.Actual said:
I think he means Joseph Gordon-Levittspielberg11 said:
The lazarus pit, as in immortality? Not a chance, and you're a fool if you think Nolan would put it in there.
A re-imagined lazarus pit that fits the Nolanverse version of the Batman setting? Entirely possible, and certainly plausible if they are featuring a young Ra's al Ghul.
What I expect is that the Pit will operate in a similar manner to The Phantom's immortality. That is, Ra's al Ghul is a title passed on, but with various trappings and symbols used to make others believe that it's all the one ageless individual (compare with The Phantom, where the character is really a title handed down through numerous male members of the one family, so that everyone outside the family believes that The Phantom who fought the pirates in the 1700s is the same Phantom that's around in modern times). The Pit would be one of the tools that is used to create the myth of immortality - i.e. they put the old Ra's body in, and then swap it for the new one, so that everyone watching (including the foot soldiers of the League of Shadows) thinks it is the same guy.
It would match the Nolanverse practice of Ra's al Ghul's identity being hidden. It is never clarified in the film whether Ducard is al Ghul the whole time, or whether he takes over after the prior one dies, and that's probably intentional - i.e. it's a secret that only the leadership of the League of Shadows knows about. If no-one is really certain who the current Ra's al Ghul is, it's easy to make it look like it's all one guy.
That kind of take on the Lazarus Pit would be in keeping with Nolan's themes of mythology manifesting in actuality (Batman being a symbol that gives courage to the police/prosecutors instead of him rounding everyone up personally, the Scarecrow using gas to make peoples' fears 'real', the Joker as the manifestation of Chaos v Harvey Dent as the manifestation of Order, etc).
A re-imagined lazarus pit that fits the Nolanverse version of the Batman setting? Entirely possible, and certainly plausible if they are featuring a young Ra's al Ghul.
What I expect is that the Pit will operate in a similar manner to The Phantom's immortality. That is, Ra's al Ghul is a title passed on, but with various trappings and symbols used to make others believe that it's all the one ageless individual (compare with The Phantom, where the character is really a title handed down through numerous male members of the one family, so that everyone outside the family believes that The Phantom who fought the pirates in the 1700s is the same Phantom that's around in modern times). The Pit would be one of the tools that is used to create the myth of immortality - i.e. they put the old Ra's body in, and then swap it for the new one, so that everyone watching (including the foot soldiers of the League of Shadows) thinks it is the same guy.
It would match the Nolanverse practice of Ra's al Ghul's identity being hidden. It is never clarified in the film whether Ducard is al Ghul the whole time, or whether he takes over after the prior one dies, and that's probably intentional - i.e. it's a secret that only the leadership of the League of Shadows knows about. If no-one is really certain who the current Ra's al Ghul is, it's easy to make it look like it's all one guy.
That kind of take on the Lazarus Pit would be in keeping with Nolan's themes of mythology manifesting in actuality (Batman being a symbol that gives courage to the police/prosecutors instead of him rounding everyone up personally, the Scarecrow using gas to make peoples' fears 'real', the Joker as the manifestation of Chaos v Harvey Dent as the manifestation of Order, etc).
....And what if the pit is supposed to be filled with green stuff, and not set for CGI(Or whatever the hell else)?
Haven't thought about THAT, Have you Tom?
Haven't thought about THAT, Have you Tom?
Joseph Gordon-Levitt. He plays a cop in the The Dark Knight Rises. You may recognize him from films such as Inception, (500) Days of Summer, and G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra.spielberg11 said:
I'm hoping that Bane isn't a steroid junkie but a genetic supersoldier gone rogue or something like that. The idea of a guy with tubes pumping green liquid into his luchador mask ruins any semblence of realism. Plus genetic enhancement is definitely on par with the technological level of Nolan's films.deathbyoatmeal said:
