Hate to be the guy, but what about flight sims, racing games and the like which require a joystick or a wheel to be played in an any real fashion.kingthrall said:
Dark Souls PC, biggest over-rated garbage ever
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Wait are we judging a game 100% because of its controls that can actually be fixed by changing the keys or adding controllers? Is this what civilization has become?
If it still bothers you that much, I kind of agree but not entirely. To me, the keyboard has never been a good controller for hack and slash and fighting games or any games with buttons that require intricacy and finesse in doing combos.
If it still bothers you that much, I kind of agree but not entirely. To me, the keyboard has never been a good controller for hack and slash and fighting games or any games with buttons that require intricacy and finesse in doing combos.
I don't know why you'd want to use WASD anyway. Contrary to popular "PC enthusiast" belief, it is not the best control scheme ever. I loves me some PC gaming (just look at my avatar - that's my PC), but for a lot of games I use a gamepad. 3rd person games where you have an aim/sight are ok with M&K (like Dead Space), but in games where the camera orientation has no relevance to character (or at least, 80% of the time it doesn't) then almost always a gamepad is going to be superior.
Dark Souls is a game that is far better to play with a gamepad.
I will say that they should always try to make the game play at least respectably for M&K, though. I haven't tried it on PC yet, but when I do get it I'll be using a controller.
I think it sucks that FROM didn't bother to tweak the game for the PC, but on the other hand, the only reason they even released it was because of a gamer petition. So basically, they did us a half-assed favour. Can't be too mad about it.
Dark Souls is a game that is far better to play with a gamepad.
I will say that they should always try to make the game play at least respectably for M&K, though. I haven't tried it on PC yet, but when I do get it I'll be using a controller.
I think it sucks that FROM didn't bother to tweak the game for the PC, but on the other hand, the only reason they even released it was because of a gamer petition. So basically, they did us a half-assed favour. Can't be too mad about it.
Normally, I would siding with OP if it was a normal case.
But Dark Soul is very different on that matter, as previous post and even The Escapist say, this a actually a open hand toward the PC playerbase. They more or less took 6 month to port the game, without any PC experience.
I wanted to have a stab at this game, and they given me the chance. Even if in the end it's a shame the Xbox controller is the only way to enjoy the gameplay.
It's 39.99 ? on steam, for a new release with added DLC, unlike the console version at launch wich was 49 ? (If I recall correctly).
Even if the port is a shody job, they did it quickly, they sell it cheaper, and even better they had the courtesy of telling us this will not be a perfect product WAY before releasing it.
But Dark Soul is very different on that matter, as previous post and even The Escapist say, this a actually a open hand toward the PC playerbase. They more or less took 6 month to port the game, without any PC experience.
I wanted to have a stab at this game, and they given me the chance. Even if in the end it's a shame the Xbox controller is the only way to enjoy the gameplay.
It's 39.99 ? on steam, for a new release with added DLC, unlike the console version at launch wich was 49 ? (If I recall correctly).
Even if the port is a shody job, they did it quickly, they sell it cheaper, and even better they had the courtesy of telling us this will not be a perfect product WAY before releasing it.
Bcause PC gamers begged and petitioned for it, even though it was a game already poorly suited to keyboard controls?kingthrall said:
Which begs the question: Why did PC gamers beg so much for this game?
the reason that the port sucks is because the port was made in japan, the japanese gaming market is mainly console based so the developers there don't have a lot of experience with PCs.
Why do people keep saying From have no PC experience? Just because you keep saying it won't make the port of Ninja Blade magically disappear.
Heh, funny thing. Ya see, my controler is in repairs right now and I'm still enjoying DS
TD. Guess I'm a freak of nature for being able to play with default keyboard setting. Or just not enough "PC master race!".
Seriously, as others have already said: we all knew this port is gonna be shit way before it came out. And for some reason everyone has forgotten how great a port Saint Rows 2 was
It's kinda ironic that I didn't even bother signing DS petition and now I'm enjoying the heck out of it and defending it on the net, sometimes even against those who signed.
TD. Guess I'm a freak of nature for being able to play with default keyboard setting. Or just not enough "PC master race!".Seriously, as others have already said: we all knew this port is gonna be shit way before it came out. And for some reason everyone has forgotten how great a port Saint Rows 2 was
It's kinda ironic that I didn't even bother signing DS petition and now I'm enjoying the heck out of it and defending it on the net, sometimes even against those who signed.
The X/Y thing is because it's games for windows bullshit at it's finest, I tried to use a controller for L4D2 and it did the same thing because I was using a DS3 and not a 360 pad (I don't like the 360 pad, I refuse to buy one just for the PC.)Jandau said:
I used an app called DS3 tool that lets you emulate a 360 controller, google it and you should find it. It did fix my problem, now I can use my controller for anything, though it feels a touch stiff.
OT: Meh, if you have such a big problem with the controls use a controller. It isn't perfectly optimised, no, but then as it's been said short deadline and lack of dev experience. Also port. If you own a PS3 or 360 you may have been better to try it there but either way Dark Souls is a very good game, but maybe a very bad port. I don't know, I barely play PC games, my PC is too weak and feeble at the moment and I don't have the £800~ for a good rig.
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Oh hey look more smug jabs at the pee see mastur race. Totally didn't see that coming. This thing isn't even a port, it's a $40 emulator. Yea they have no experience, but if you're a professional asking for twice what the console versions are going for on Amazon, that doesn't cut it. And plugging in a controller would probably be better, but if someone already has a controller, they more than likely already have an Xbox 360 and would have got the game for the Xbox a long time ago. What that says is "Just go buy a $40 controller for your broken $40 game you entitled PC gamer fuckwit"
A little of topic here, but...
What is all this talk about From Software not knowing how to develop for PCs? I don't really understand what this means. Aren't console games built the same way as PC games? They are all written with various C languages, Lua, Python, XML, SQL, etc. The only difference is the constraints of the hardware. I could see there being a problem regarding publication, but the technical side of things..? They are just being given more elbow room when developing for PC. Unless the issue is that they don't understand the 'standards' of PC gaming, but I find that hard to believe.
What is all this talk about From Software not knowing how to develop for PCs? I don't really understand what this means. Aren't console games built the same way as PC games? They are all written with various C languages, Lua, Python, XML, SQL, etc. The only difference is the constraints of the hardware. I could see there being a problem regarding publication, but the technical side of things..? They are just being given more elbow room when developing for PC. Unless the issue is that they don't understand the 'standards' of PC gaming, but I find that hard to believe.