Dark Souls Port Brings Console Problems to PC

[ResonanceSD]

[(I frankly don't give two shits about graphics-whores like yourself) but considering the facts that this is being done as a favor to the petitioners, you acting like an entitled brat who is mad that the game he wanted isn't coming out on his console and thus blaming the developers.

Didn't care about the game before it launched, didn't care after it launched, didn't sign any petition to get it ported to PC and I sure as hell don't care now. Also just for the record, I'm not buying it.

Your assumptions about what I want from a game are hilarious, by the way. I don't think the graphics in say, Chrono Trigger are anything to write home about, but I still think it's a fantastic example of gaming.



And it's not "being a graphics whore", so much as "bling bling".

Up-scaling 1024x720 to 1680x1050 would look really blurry (hell, if I had a 2048x1440 monitor I wouldn't complain at all)... And since I watch my monitor from half a meter that would be a problem. Also, sluggish control from the low refresh rate can be aggravating, but it will increase difficulty, which could be good, since k&m controls could make the game too easy on the PC.

"shitty controls" isn't a substitute for difficulty. It's the only reason NES games were difficult.

Also, 3240x1920, seriously, try it XD

 

[Trippy Turtle]

I can only imagine how bad it must feel for you people to have to stick to a decent framerate with decent graphics. You should all start complaining like normal.

 

[Dogstile]

Jesus christ, people wonder why PC gamers have such a bad reputation, this is why. Goddammit people this is why my friends laugh at me when I talk about how I buy more games for PC than I do anything else, stop making everyone else look bad!

 

[Lyri]

If there's one thing PC gamers like to talk about, it's graphics. Graphical fidelity is usually enhanced on the PC compared to console editions, which is one of the reasons many people hold out for a PC version of popular games. Enter Dark Souls: Prepare to Die, the latest From Software edition of the hardcore fantasy die-die-die game, that has already been rumored [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117754-From-Software-is-Having-Trouble-Porting-Dark-Souls] to be slightly on the problematic side. A rush to get the PC port out "as quickly as possible" - according to developer Daisuke Uchiyama - might, the rumors went, mean that frame rate problems and other concerns wouldn't get fixed.

Weeeell ... hard luck, PC gamers. "While the frame-rate's rough edges have been filed down," said Eurogamer, which has had access to a pre-release version, "you're still going to be playing at 30FPS out of the box." There doesn't appear to be an easy fix for that problem, but it gets worse. "On close inspection, it appears that Dark Souls PC uses the very same 1024x720 internal framebuffer as the console versions, regardless of which resolution has been set in the menus." There's no way to change that basic image quality, which means that "PC gamers will very much be getting the genuine console experience here, right down to the pixel."

Still, there's some comfort to be had. The game is still as difficult as it ever was, and there are extra areas for the player to poke around in - and die a lot - with new enemies prepared to squish you like a gnat. The visual tone is as striking as ever, and the frame rate is much smoother than it has been before. But, if you were looking for graphical greatness, better readjust your expectations. When Uchiyama said "we haven't been able to step up into doing any specific optimization for PC," he really meant it.

Source: Eurogamer [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-09-dark-souls-pc-preview-the-devils-bargain]

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Wasn't all this supposed to happen?
This isn't a problem but they way they intended the game to always be, they always claimed that the game would be this way.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I think I am one of the single PC gamers left that has a 19" monitor with a max resolution of 1200/1024 which I have been using for a couple of years now.

Guess the cropping from the lower resolution won't make the game blurry enough and it will be playable.

Oh mister fancy pants with is 1200*1024 monitor some of us still have 1024*768 monitors. Also still surprised at people's comments here. There is what a 9:1(exaggeration but no more than "oh noes the shame of a few elitists ruining it for everyone") ratio of people not complaining and buying it over this to it being a deal breaker. Especially since they more or less said this was happening anyway.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

I think I am one of the single PC gamers left that has a 19" monitor with a max resolution of 1200/1024 which I have been using for a couple of years now.

Guess the cropping from the lower resolution won't make the game blurry enough and it will be playable.

Oh mister fancy pants with is 1200*1024 monitor some of us still have 1024*768 monitors. Also still surprised at people's comments here. There is what a 9:1(exaggeration but no more than "oh noes the shame of a few elitists ruining it for everyone") ratio of people not complaining and buying it over this to it being a deal breaker. Especially since they more or less said this was happening anyway.

Let me ask you this,do you own any of the 3 consoles? If the answer is yes then my point is proven.

Cause else,I really doubt you would be able to play any high fidelity games that have come out the past year with that kind of low resolution.And I would reckon that with such a low rez monitor the system specs must be pretty low as well.

PS: Don't get me wrong,I will buy the game myself,just wanted to point that out.

 

[nathan-dts]

At least they told you months before. Some publishers and devolepers wouldn't say anything.

 

[Greyfox_Shep]

So long the graphics don't interfere with the gameplay (like lagging during a combat, specially in this game), I have no problem with it.

 

[Alatar The Red]

Why are PC gamers being called entitled for not buying a product that does not offer what they want? I just can't help but feel that some of the comments here lack a fundamental understanding of the way a consumer is supposed to act.

Hint: you buy products that give you what you want.

Nothing entitled about not liking a feature set. I wont buy the game, From wont get my money, and I wont play the game. I'm not entitled to anything and neither is From.

It's also ridiculous to assume that PC gamers should have expected a game with a locked resolution. When a developer says "a straight port" we expect a game that's probably a bit badly optimized, has some bugs, maybe a 30fps cap etc. But seriously, when was the last time a high profile game was released on the PC without working resolution options? I can't think of one...

 

[Comic Sans]

Meh. I know they said it was going to be a basic port, but come on. Even low budget indie games usually have resolution options. My native resolution on my laptop is 1920x1080. That means the game is going to look horrendous on my laptop. The image will be all screwed up and will detract from the experience. I don't see what's so hard about adding resolution support. I don't see how expecting these things is considered entitled or whiny. This is very basic stuff for any PC game, and while I was initially going to consider getting the game close to launch to support the devs, now I'm going to hold off until a Steam sale. I didn't expect upgraded graphics and was prepared to deal with GFWL (as crap as it is, I've had trouble with it in the past), but I don't support laziness. There are certain basic features that need to be accommodated for each platform, and if they expect my money they need to provide them.

Also, the DLC isn't "free". The game is available for $39.99 on Steam. I was in Gamestop a few days ago, and the price on a new copy of Dark Souls on PS3 is $29.99. So we are paying more money than you would have to pay in store. We aren't getting some great deal. It's cheaper than it was at launch for consoles, yes, but that was some time ago and a price drop is normal. We are paying more for a new copy today than you have to.

 

[bobajob]

I will just bide my time. I am actually pretty excited about this game, having missed the franchise on PS3.
It will be fan-patched at some point, thus we can have our cake & eat it. Just don't play it on release.
Remember STALKER?

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Why are PC gamers being called entitled

Because 'entitled' is the new 'elitist'

 

[runic knight]

Entitled? Gonna go with "no" there.

I really couldn't care much about the framerate or the resolution myself. An ugly game can still be fun. No, my concerns is rest with what happened with the last ported game I got: Skyrim. Up until it got patched, the controls were terrible, mouse was nuts and the game was unplayable. Granted I was the rare occurrence of this sort of issue, but it was still there. But this is from a company that has no clue what they are doing with pc, and has already shown that the port is barest of bones. I have to wonder if it will even be playable without a lot of patches.


Honestly, given the variety in monitors and the issues framerate might have on a pc, I think asking for some effort there is not asking too much. It is part of what a lot of pc gamers are after (myself not included, but I can understand their desires there). Entitled though, that is not the case. After all, none of us are demanding anything in this, merely exercising our rights to not buy a product we feel is not worth the money. And what may well be an ugly, buggy, unplayable game does fit the bill there.

 

[Sandjube]

Oh God, this is atrocious! This game needs to die in a pit of flames and death, I just... I won't be able to play this game at all, in fact, I should just reject the terms of service of Steam and have my account terminated. THIRTY FPS?! That's... Who can ever play a game at 30FPS?! Even though that's the standard FPS of many things and the human eye can't see much more.

AND CONSOLE RESOLUTION?! OH GOD PLEASE STOP NO MORE! God forbid, you'd think that i'd buy the game for the gameplay... which is why any normal human being would buy the game. But I buy games exclusively on my PC because I only play them for graphics, I hope the developers die for this. This game is probably worse than those shitty busts like Super Meat Boy and League of Legends. Who the hell would play those? The graphics are terrible. At least I still have Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, what an amazing, brilliant game that is.

I was playing Borderlands before, dropped down to 40 frames and though "Dammnit this is annoying and laggy, hopefully it will go back up to 60".

Then it did, and I was happy. Ipso facto, you're completely wrong about the framerate thing. Also try reading about the fact that monitors and televisions aren't the same thing (weird I know).

 

[RicoADF]

Pfft, might as well not release it on PC at all then. Given the fact the game is locked at 720p and 30FPS since they can't take the time to fix that, I doubt the bug testing is going to be that great either. The port is probably going to be a buggy mess that crashes every 5 minutes.

Hell, we might even have a contender for a worse port than GTA IV here.

Seriously that's such a big deal to you? Get over it. If it turns out to be crashing constantly, got bad controls and doesn't work, then yes its a shoddy port. But having it the same resolution as the console (esp 720p which most games now a days run at anyway, even on PC), is the most pathetic thing to ***** about I've ever heard of.

 

[47_Ronin]

Pick the Master Key, skipp Blightown. Solves 90% of frame rate drops.
Sucks for PC gamers but you guys are still getting a great game.