Aswyng and Amyss
- Dec 3, 2008
Summary: David Jaffe spazzes out in public again, but will get much support because the thigns he says coincide with what we want to hear.
Well, the BBC has to thread a bit careful in the USA, because if they try to bring real journalism there, they would probably indirectly, or just directly also have to report that the US' journalistic standards are a cesspit. Imagine the outrage if a BBC journalist actually said something that in essence boiled down to "maybe now these dumb-ass americans can understand that automatic firearms do not belong in the hands of civilians?" Followed of course up with "Oh dear, they're blaming it on games again, how stupid are they?".Darth Sea Bass said:While i mainly agree with you the bbc are just as guilty as other news outlets when it comes to their reporting of school shootings.Gizmo1990 said:I really feel bad for you Americans that you have to live with this kind of journalism. How does anyone in your country get any facts?amaranth_dru said:Folks please note: This is CNN not FOX news reporting this garbage. A good sign that major media outlets care less about truth in journalism and more about inciting flame wars. In other words, ALL news channels are troll-bait and untrustworthy.
Thank god that in England we have the BBC. Hell, televised media journalists are not even allowed to state their political opinions in our country. Plus while we do have biased media it is all confined to newspapers, so we can just ignore all of them.
Regarding jaffe, Good work that man!
The fact that the article misrepresented her, especially when it came to the "training simulator" statement, deeply saddens me. I would not doubt that she has some sort of anti-video game bias, or is simply out of touch, but calling out a reporter for misrepresentation and then doing it oneself is not good practice.vid87 said:I played and replayed the interview and compared the points made in the main article with Burnett's wording - I really don't think she was preaching "gaming makes killers" as absolute fact. At all. When she said "...it's accepted as fact..." she prefixed it with "A lot of people say...". That and her reading the senator's statement on the Norway shooter (as we covered on this site as true that he claimed gaming was his training tool - why he said could be a separate argument) leads me to believe she was reiterating other points being made about the topic and touching on a perception that is still prevalent in our society, after which she asked her guest if he can confirm it or not. Admittedly the only reason I can think for her to press on with the GTA questioning, aside from demonizing, was because the network needed to fill time and they had a clip they could show, which I agree would be good argument against 24-hour news cycle broadcasting (filling time with useless crap) but I didn't see that as trying to bully Dr. Pollack into conceding to that view. Also, did anyone find his quip at the end (6:06) about GTA or other games possibly causing "domestic violence" or making people "stand back" from fights weird?
No actually not.albino boo said:Congratulations Mr Jaffe you win PR screw up of the week. If the video gaming industry wants to counter the current issues it needs to get better organised and stop playing to the gallery of the hardcore gamers. The people you need to convince that games aren't a risk are just going to see some hipster launching a personal attack via twitter on someone they trust. If you want change people minds, you need to put your best suit and respectfully and forensically dissect the oppositions argument. Angry rants didn't work for the Tea Party and it isn't going to work for the gaming industry. The industry needs to sound like serious responsible people not some hipster ranting about capitalism.
Exactly what I was thinking. She doesn't even know what she's talking about. There are no points in GTA. What the hell?StriderShinryu said:Dr. Pollack deserves some major props here. Sure, he's not necessarily a fan of games and didn't know enough about GTA to call her on her BS line about "points" stolen from Jack Tnompson (he also didn't mention the rather important fact that games like GTA and CoD aren't meant for kids anyway), but he still stood by the facts when pressed. And, after all that, to have his comments labelled as provocative? Sheesh...
I think it's funny that there was need to show both segments in that clip when clearly only the end segment is relevant. Jobs, company growth, and companies abilities to be profitable affect people beyond the ones shot by crazies. You do realize that more than 99.9 % of all people who own that firearm didn't shoot anyone in a school and never will, right? I'm not interested in fighting over this, I'm just pointing out that constantly switching the blame off of the real issue is not a way to solve a problem. It's like having a broken back and taking pain killers to deal with it, it just doesn't make sense. Also, not making an argument in favor of guns (though I have no issue what so ever in those guns being available to law abiding citizens), just making an argument favor of rationality.Waraddict said:That video made me think, hold on a bloody second, before they even insulted the gaming industry they're concerned about the popularity and revenue earned from a clearly over-powered semi-machine gun whom no ordinary person should even need never mind should have.
I'm sorry, but that already invalidates any argument that they could make.