Summary: David Jaffe spazzes out in public again, but will get much support because the thigns he says coincide with what we want to hear.
David Jaffe Lashes Out at CNN Anchor
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Here I figured that this wouldn't happen again, since this kind of persecution happened years ago and was very wholesomely shot down.
Also, since when does grand-theft-auto have a points system? I only noticed a money counter, but not points. Though to be fair, I never played the games a whole lot. Saints Row 3 won me over.
But yeah, silliness how this kind of thing keeps happening, and now isn't even limited to Faux News. It's not even laughable anymore, just stupid.
Sometimes I feel like the only way this world will ever lose the worst of its habits is through a straight-up alien invasion by someone who would completely table us, but wouldn't genocide us.. Like the Tau Empire or..... well anyone else know of an alien empire that would not genocide humanity but instead integrate us?
Also, since when does grand-theft-auto have a points system? I only noticed a money counter, but not points. Though to be fair, I never played the games a whole lot. Saints Row 3 won me over.
But yeah, silliness how this kind of thing keeps happening, and now isn't even limited to Faux News. It's not even laughable anymore, just stupid.
Sometimes I feel like the only way this world will ever lose the worst of its habits is through a straight-up alien invasion by someone who would completely table us, but wouldn't genocide us.. Like the Tau Empire or..... well anyone else know of an alien empire that would not genocide humanity but instead integrate us?
That wasn't actually that bad. I was expecting tons of interruptions and a "No, you're wrong" every time they presented something to the contrary.
I think Jaffe probably went a bit far. But that's just what he's like.
Although I kind of expect him to get madder at other people more. Maybe he doesn't bother because it isn't game related.
I think Jaffe probably went a bit far. But that's just what he's like.
Although I kind of expect him to get madder at other people more. Maybe he doesn't bother because it isn't game related.
You're right about Al-jazeera. Not too long ago I read a piece at their site asking why the only philosophers and intellectuals the field cared about are european born, or western in thought, ignoring the burgeuoning texts and thinking coming from the Middle East, Latin America, Asia and Africa. It was an excellent, nunaced piece, and very thought inspiring, with extremely articulate writing and carefully worded arguments. Then we have this on CNN. *sigh*
Well, the BBC has to thread a bit careful in the USA, because if they try to bring real journalism there, they would probably indirectly, or just directly also have to report that the US' journalistic standards are a cesspit. Imagine the outrage if a BBC journalist actually said something that in essence boiled down to "maybe now these dumb-ass americans can understand that automatic firearms do not belong in the hands of civilians?" Followed of course up with "Oh dear, they're blaming it on games again, how stupid are they?".Darth Sea Bass said:
It's politics. Britain saw how France became the enemy just for saying "What the fuck kinda dumb idea is it to invade Iraq?", and realized that america is crazy. You don't ever let a crazy person know you think they're crazy, unless you want to die.
The fact that the article misrepresented her, especially when it came to the "training simulator" statement, deeply saddens me. I would not doubt that she has some sort of anti-video game bias, or is simply out of touch, but calling out a reporter for misrepresentation and then doing it oneself is not good practice.vid87 said:
Oh, and Jaffe has a temper. Who knew? >.>
No actually not.albino boo said:
She is a fucking piece of crap reporter.
He made no threats of violence, he made no sexist remarks, he made no insults other than calling her ability to do her job properly into question and her basic intelligence.
You don't convince someone that has already made up their mind about you that you aren't a raving murderer by dressing up, pulling punches and acting sweet. All that does is allow them to just pound on you. Kind of like they have been constantly doing.
Even with an expert literally contradicting her on air she STILL tried to twist his arm to say it. He was wearing a nice suit wasn't he? Guess the suit did very little to help him out.
Misrepresentation, quote mining, Fox News reporting and lies are not countered with soft spoken protest, they can only be countered by a hard bitchslap of logic and facts.
Jaffe wins for just saying what should be said more often. There is no proof and if you actually read the studies you quote you would see that they actually include a list of things that increased violent tendencies more than videogames.
One of those being... Access to firearms. Want to know what happens when I start talking as if it has been scientifically proven that gunownership leads to murderous behaviour? I would get pulled of the air. Because gunowners (but mostly manufacturers) are not a silent party, they speak up, quite a bit (not to mention the political bribes the manufacturers give).
FINALLY! FUCKING FINALLY!
God dammit it makes me feel good to know that somebody else thinks these fucking morons shouldn't even be allowed a say. If they're gonna go around lobbing wild accusations AND THEN have the fucking nerve not to even listen to anyone else's arguments, then they flat out should never be allowed a position that allows them to broadcast such views as the truth.
I say good on David Jaffe. Some are going to see this as not taking the higher ground, an infantile way of dealing with things, but if these people are going to keep acting like kids saying their opinion is right simply "because" then damn right we'll treat them like kids.
God dammit it makes me feel good to know that somebody else thinks these fucking morons shouldn't even be allowed a say. If they're gonna go around lobbing wild accusations AND THEN have the fucking nerve not to even listen to anyone else's arguments, then they flat out should never be allowed a position that allows them to broadcast such views as the truth.
I say good on David Jaffe. Some are going to see this as not taking the higher ground, an infantile way of dealing with things, but if these people are going to keep acting like kids saying their opinion is right simply "because" then damn right we'll treat them like kids.
Exactly what I was thinking. She doesn't even know what she's talking about. There are no points in GTA. What the hell?StriderShinryu said:
And with all due respect to the right to bear arms, the US has a unique problem with gun violence compared to every other country. Even scaling it, the gun crimes in the US is way higher than Canada and the same sets and subsets of video games show up here. But with that said, any one of us who wants to simply blame gun laws, protect video games and claim innocence are no better than the NRA supporters blaming video games. The issues regarding shooting are way more complicated than that for any given instance.
Ironically, I find that a good round of virtual violence is a great stress reliever. Gotta go kill some zombies in Red Dead.
That video made me think, hold on a bloody second, before they even insulted the gaming industry they're concerned about the popularity and revenue earned from a clearly over-powered semi-machine gun whom no ordinary person should even need never mind should have.
I'm sorry, but that already invalidates any argument that they could make.
I'm sorry, but that already invalidates any argument that they could make.
This whole agenda switching back and forth between guns and violent video games is obnoxious. Both ignore the context of violence as a social issue. My favorite bit is where she finds concepts behind GTA disgusting and insulting, ergo (latin) it will cause people to become violent and shoot up schools. It's funny how people need to justify there feelings by making it seem like the worst thing in the world.
I think it's funny that there was need to show both segments in that clip when clearly only the end segment is relevant. Jobs, company growth, and companies abilities to be profitable affect people beyond the ones shot by crazies. You do realize that more than 99.9 % of all people who own that firearm didn't shoot anyone in a school and never will, right? I'm not interested in fighting over this, I'm just pointing out that constantly switching the blame off of the real issue is not a way to solve a problem. It's like having a broken back and taking pain killers to deal with it, it just doesn't make sense. Also, not making an argument in favor of guns (though I have no issue what so ever in those guns being available to law abiding citizens), just making an argument favor of rationality.Waraddict said:
As an aside, I like how the media doesn't take responsibility for their part. They romanticize these broken human beings and then when it happens again and again they shift the blame off of themselves.
Why was the anchor speaking diminutively to Dr. Pollack? This is a well respected professional, who has earnt his status in society and utterly disgraceful behavior upon her part. Right from the very beginning and her refusal to address him by title. This is well below journalistic standards. He would've been well within reason to just smile, stand up and walk out right after the introduction after that thinly concealed insult. I hold him in even greater esteem for simply choosing not to and perservering through such a merry-go-round of an "interview".
I'm sure CNN looks at FOX and MSNBC and thinks, "What can we do to get the rating they do?" Then the board of directors thinks for a bit. Then one jumps out of their chair and yells, "BE AS AWFUL AND SHITTY AS THEY ARE!" The board then applauds him and I die a little more inside.
But this is nothing really new, remember William Randolph "You get me a story and I'll get you a war!" Hearst.
But this is nothing really new, remember William Randolph "You get me a story and I'll get you a war!" Hearst.