I won't even buy ME3 if they make from Ashes free as damage control since this came out. DLC in form of disc locked content not downloadable content is worst. Granted I did not know of disc locked content on ME2 when I bought it last year, which I regret as would of not bought it if I had known. For me this is straw that broke camels back. Never again will I ever buy a Bioware game. Any game associated with Bioware or EA I will never buy. Nothing can make me change my opinion on Bioware now as line has been crossed.
Day-One DLC Files Appear on Mass Effect 3 Discs
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But if you can't afford it, you shouldn't buy it in the first place. There are many games which I want but I don't have the funds.Higgs303 said:
Not really. Biowares claim was that they started work on this DLC, with the intent to sell it for a premium, AFTER the game was cleared for shipping, production, etc. They said it was then that they came up with the idea, put it on the disk, and shipped it.GamesB2 said:
Nevermind the fact that a spript was leaked almost a year ago WITH the Prothean on it. And nevermind the fact that Day 1 DLC like this has been done, and offered for free, from BioWare with almost all of its current console releases.
And if you have content that shows up in the DLC ALSO on the disk, that means at some point, someone had to say "Hey, lets cut it and sell it to people for a premium to make more money". With other games, anything BioWare wanted but could not finish was shipped with new copies to promote buying new copies of the game. BioWare, at some point in development, was working on this parallel to the main game - which BioWare lied about. It could be the case they could not finish it in time - read the above statement. Either way, people payed full price for a game that was not finished, intentionally or otherwise. When the content was delivered, it was delivered for a premium, which is a scumbag move.
And thats why people are pissed. People are pissed at BioWare because they were scumbags about this whole thing. They clearly cut the content to sell to us as DLC - theres too much evidence to pretend like thats not the case. They lied about it afterwards. Compared with their other fiascos (Tali's reveal was a photoshoped stock Windows picture - along with a couple of other slides from the game. For a project like ME3, thats a pretty dick move).
Bioware statement was misleading - on porpouse. They've tried to put out the fire with a vague response. They should have said:The.Bard said:
Guys, most of our DLC is planned in conjunction with the game, so we can better integrate things (when the DLC is developed is irrelevant). This time we decided that a Day 1 DLC was a good idea, since the content was ready (and a good part of it was already in the disc).
It is greedy as hell, but I respect much more a straightforward answer than beating around the bush PR.
THe Prothean is in game whether you have DLC or not. THe DLC mearly adds more prothean content.Uber Waddles said:
We have NO evidence either way that the prothean content in the DLC was cut or just built upon to make the DLC.
But its just cool to beleive that we're being screwed over.
The fact it's made it onto the disk is neither here nor there on wether its cut content or specially made content.
It could well be a scumbag move but equally it could not be.
By extension of your logic, no one should ever take out a loan on their mortgage, they should just let their home become repossessed because, oh well, couldn't afford to pay it at the time.Iron Criterion said:
I never said anything about using a loan to pay for videogames. Nice try.Reshkar said:
Just because one thing is a want and the other is a need doesn't make the comparison any less apt. After all, EA will tell you they need the extra $10 to make more DLC for the game, but that's clearly a lie. They're charging extra for anything they can smash-and-grab style, then cutting their employees loose from the payroll. Don't attempt to lecture me about why affording games and keeping a roof over my head is different, I acknowledge it's not the same exact circumstance but here's the thing: it's an example, it doesn't have to be.
You and Iron seem consigned to the idea that EA can charge whatever or try to fuck over its customer base as much as it wants, and if we don't like that then AHERP, sorry charlie, them's the breaks! No. Just, no. I'm not allowing these scumbags to lower the bar even further. It's time to draw the line. It's time to get the bleach and start scrubbing.
Its great who people who haven't downloaded it are complaining like they know what going on with the DLC.
It is NOT on the disc. The download would not be 500+ MB in size if it was, that is a waste of EA/Microsoft/Sony server space just to unlock something.
Just because the character data is in the game, doesn't mean the MISSION data, which is what the DLC is, is on the disc.
It is NOT on the disc. The download would not be 500+ MB in size if it was, that is a waste of EA/Microsoft/Sony server space just to unlock something.
Just because the character data is in the game, doesn't mean the MISSION data, which is what the DLC is, is on the disc.
You know, I would have loved to continue giving bioware the benefit of the doubt on this one, but this is a pretty shit-move. They could have just included this for free.
DLC makes me angry, but cutting shit out of a game I bought makes me far more angry.
Flame away!
DLC makes me angry, but cutting shit out of a game I bought makes me far more angry.
Flame away!
Eh, I haven't seen anything that would convince me they were intentionally misleading. As much as people seem to think otherwise, they don't owe us a day-by-day accounting of what is on the disc and what isn't, and whether things cut from the game during normal development were later fleshed out or removed.zinho73 said:
This isn't a consumer rights issue, this isn't being given a hamburger and being told extra money is required to get the bun. It boils down to THIS:
"This is DLC. It costs $10. The game functions start-to-end without it."
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We as consumers then have TWO OPTIONS TO PICK FROM. ONLY TWO:
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NOOOOES. Will NOT pay $10!
- OR -
The people around here complaining as if they are entitled to get it without paying is a bit silly. Companies can do WHATEVER THEY WANT as long it isn't illegal. Generally speaking, they tend to avoid doing things that hurt their chances of getting your money. If they wanted to make Commander Shepard into a chicken, THEY CAN. The reason they don't is it hurts their longterm financials in a big way.
So at the end of the day, y'all, stop bitching in the forums and stop giving them your money. THAT is how you respond to this. It's the ONLY way to respond to this.
FIGHTING IN FORUMS IS POINTLESS.
I really don't understand what the fuss is about. If you think this is a bad move by EA/Bioware, EASY! Don't buy it and let those who are ok buying it enjoy it in peace.
Your right EA wasn't lying....from a certain point of view. But the fact that the character existed means that the DLC was in the planing early on. Which means that the mission was ether cut for time restraints, Budget, or DLC is a part of the games planing from the start.FenixZero said:
I don't think DLC is bad. In fact its been a part of gaming since gaming existed, we just use to call them expansions and sequels. So from the designers point of view DLC is just more room to tell their epic story. but I don't want to pay 70 dollars on day one. I will wait for it to be on sale.
Can one of the incredibly knowledgeable and well informed people in this thread please enlighten me, as to what the 567.2MB file titled 'From Ashes' I just downloaded contained?
I'm with you on wallet voting budFappy said:Well he doesn't appear anywhere in the game (seeing as I ave beaten it) so I will stand firm and continue to boycott this DLC as I had considered buying it if he played an important role in the game short of being a squadmate. This news just strengthens my resolve. If only people knew how to vote with their wallets
I was boycotting origin until they changed the data mining part of their Eula and now that they have, I'm planning on getting ME3 eventually. Though hearing things like, lazy / buggy game design, stock photo lazy photoshops of ending scenes and tali a beloved character from all three games...idk I'm just like..what happened between games 1 and 3...I used to hands down love this franchise, now I'm torn.
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Electronic Arts has announced that 3.5 million copies of Mass Effect 3 have been shipped worldwide. The number makes Mass Effect 3 the largest entertainment launch of the year thus far. EA boss John Riccitello has stated that customers bought 890,000 copies in North America alone on launch day earlier this week, reports VentureBeat. The executive's comments were made during the Wedbush Technology, Media and Telecommunications Conference, where he noted that Mass Effect 3 is meeting EA's expectations and that the company is "happy" about the results so far.
Riccitiello also mentioned sales of Mass Effect 3 downloadable content, which are already doing quite well. 40 percent of customers who purchased Mass Effect 3 from a local GameStop also purchased DLC, the highest tie ratio for downloadable content the retailer has ever seen.
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THIS is why the bickering is stupid. THIS is why the entitled whining is nothing but wasted energy. Look at the # up there.
40%!!!!
4 out of every 10 people at gamestop DO NOT CARE THAT THE DAY 1 DLC COSTS MONEY. I am curious if that # includes Collector Editions, which bundle the DLC free.
What does this mean to you? You can gripe all you want about it here, this is going to become the norm. Your only hope for survival is by personally voting with your wallet.
Clearly enough people are ok paying the money to justify its existence.
Electronic Arts has announced that 3.5 million copies of Mass Effect 3 have been shipped worldwide. The number makes Mass Effect 3 the largest entertainment launch of the year thus far. EA boss John Riccitello has stated that customers bought 890,000 copies in North America alone on launch day earlier this week, reports VentureBeat. The executive's comments were made during the Wedbush Technology, Media and Telecommunications Conference, where he noted that Mass Effect 3 is meeting EA's expectations and that the company is "happy" about the results so far.
Riccitiello also mentioned sales of Mass Effect 3 downloadable content, which are already doing quite well. 40 percent of customers who purchased Mass Effect 3 from a local GameStop also purchased DLC, the highest tie ratio for downloadable content the retailer has ever seen.
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THIS is why the bickering is stupid. THIS is why the entitled whining is nothing but wasted energy. Look at the # up there.
40%!!!!
4 out of every 10 people at gamestop DO NOT CARE THAT THE DAY 1 DLC COSTS MONEY. I am curious if that # includes Collector Editions, which bundle the DLC free.
What does this mean to you? You can gripe all you want about it here, this is going to become the norm. Your only hope for survival is by personally voting with your wallet.
Clearly enough people are ok paying the money to justify its existence.
You could almost say they have, *puts on glasses*, assumed direct control.Antari said:
YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!