DC Comics Will Soon Reveal Joker's True Name
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Considering how politicised comics have become recently (although it does seem to be happening more in Marvel than DC) I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be Donald Trump, and then he goes into a censored rant about unsolicited opinions on Mexican wall building.monkeymangler said:
Even better, just Jo Ker.Li Mu said:
Because subtlety is dead.
Yeah, I have to agree, Jack Napier's been used for the Joker in the Tim Burton Batman movie and the DC Animated Universe and I never heard anyone complain about it.Ukomba said:No mention of Jack Napier? Come on people, Joker has had a name since 1989.
Also, this is the first I've heard of this "Rebirth" thing DC's doing though, and if they're bringing back some of the Pre-Flashpoint stuff they removed for their New 52 story-line, I consider it good news already. And with any luck, it means DC Comics is finally over their "We need to try too hard to be mature and grimdark in order to sell" phase.
Heck, I might be sold on Rebirth if they just bring back the Blue Lantern Corps and Martian Manhunter's love of Oreos.
You're mixing a couple things up: The Joker was the Red Hood first. When Jason (the second Robin, who died and then came back and went nuts) died and then came back and went nuts, he adopted the title, both to remind Batman of his failures, and to match Batman by dressing as something that he (Jason) found frightening: Bruce chose bats, Jason chose the Joker.Sampler said:
I can see it in character for Batman to find out the Joker's true identity, because he is the World's Greatest Detective, and mysteries exist to be solved. You can only keep stringing something like that along for so long until you run out of ideas and just reveal it, and if it works, hey! you got more story ideas! Just look at Wolverine.
Still, this announcement isn't as bad as how Marvel reveals its big "surprises", especially who's gonna bite it in the Big Crossover Events That Change Everything Forever they crank out every month.
Still, this announcement isn't as bad as how Marvel reveals its big "surprises", especially who's gonna bite it in the Big Crossover Events That Change Everything Forever they crank out every month.
If memory serves, in the story-line where Batman threatens to tell Joker his real name, he later goes back to the Batcave and the computer shows that it has no answer for his identity. In other words, Batman was bluffing. I could be wrong, I watched the Comicstorian episode on it.
Otherwise, I don't think this is a good idea. Joker is nameless. That's the thing about him. He's the one villain Batman can't identify. The one villain who has no backstory beyond, he was once Red Hood. Even Joker may not know who he was. Everything he has ever said about his past contradicts itself and that is the point.
Fully expect it to be reconned, regardless. In the next DC reboot, if not sooner.
Otherwise, I don't think this is a good idea. Joker is nameless. That's the thing about him. He's the one villain Batman can't identify. The one villain who has no backstory beyond, he was once Red Hood. Even Joker may not know who he was. Everything he has ever said about his past contradicts itself and that is the point.
Fully expect it to be reconned, regardless. In the next DC reboot, if not sooner.
Reveal? Or make up?
Reveal makes it sound like all the different writers who have written stories with him in over the years have all actually known his name and background and that they are now going to tell us who it is...
Reveal makes it sound like all the different writers who have written stories with him in over the years have all actually known his name and background and that they are now going to tell us who it is...
Okay, sounds kinda interesting. Was the story good? In the spoiler section I mean.Soulrender95 said:
Making Joker a family member would require A LOT of changes and tweaks in the story, setting and tone. And for what? What would a blood relation mean in the story? That he and Batman are the same? That's already been told (constantly) and it didn't even require any any shared ancestry.
I agree, Joker was better suited as a symbol of chaos and insanity. Making him more complex and human weakens that aspect.
Please don't DC... Just... it's really not important who the jokers real name is... There is no story in which that is an enhancement...
Ronald McDonald.
Seriously, DC, don't do dumb stuff. Its bad enough your movies always turn out shit.
Seriously, DC, don't do dumb stuff. Its bad enough your movies always turn out shit.
I agree with the first part; I'm not privy to enough comics lore to comment on the part about Wolverine.Darth_Payn said:
Here's my entirely unfounded(seriously, I've never picked up a Batman comic) theory of what will happen:
For some reason Batman has to find out the Joker's identity. He investigates and eventually he comes upon the identity; it turns out that this info changes their relationship. (To have something to work of off, I assume it is Bruce Wayne's dad). They publish a couple of issues where this new found knowledge affects how Batman and the Joker interacts, and how Batman must view the Joker given their now known shared history. After they've ran this idea into the ground(or decided that the idea was good enough to keep, though I doubt it) it is revealed that the Joker obviously has tampered with whatever source Batman used to find out his true identity, all just to mess with him.
Skip giving us a name and just give him a few new origin stories instead.
I liked all of the possible Joker origins so far.
I liked all of the possible Joker origins so far.
Ugh. Have they not learned from Boba Fett? 50% of why he was so cool is cause he was so mysterious. Some of the stuff in the EU was pretty good that told his bounty hunting tales, but when they started exploring his childhood and expanding on Mandolorians, they lost a ton of allure.
This is such a bad idea.
This is such a bad idea.
