DC Comics Will Soon Reveal Joker's True Name
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The "twist" is all they've got anymore. Neither Marvel or DC are capable of writing great stories with well and consistently written characters to sell comics off actual genuine VALUE anymore so they just pull cheap gimmicks and twists like this all the time while butchering the characters left and right in order to coast off of the resulting controversy and this is just yet another one. This is why they advertise the twist like this instead of just writing a story that shows the Joker's true name without any real fanfare and letting the fans sell the comics from there.Jute88 said:
That turned out not to be the case didn't it? It was just The Joker screwing with a load of mentally ill people and to show his ability to get inside peoples heads wasn't it?Dead Metal said:
I'm...also not sure what the deal is here, he's canonically been Joe Kerr since a year or so after The Killing Joke became canon. And is still the case in New 52 as far as I'm aware.
Or not, the canon in the New 52 is fucking barmy. Sometimes certain things happened, sometimes they didn't, some characters remember it, but only when they're not around other characters that they rely on having been involved in those events, but for them it didn't happen. Now Pre 52 Superman and New 52 superman exist in the same timeline despite N52 being a corruption of that timeline and shit happens inside, outside cocurrent in the future of a past that might not have happened within itself and I've gone crosseyed.
No idea if that turned out to not be true, I was just told about it by a fan and read the coverage. DC is too confused with how they handle their continuity for me to care about their comics.elvor0 said:
Wanted to start back with the New 52, thankfully I waited for the tpbs. Batman picked and choosed what was canon, Superman was a completely new start, Swamp Thing was a direct continuation completely ignoring the reboots of other titles, so I just tried another Marvel title and a few image titles instead.
My money is on James Romine, and I pray to zombie Jesus that he doesn't find this and sue me for 10 million bucks.
Or maybe DC will decide to jump into the "Progressive" pool and we'll find out that the Joker is actually a transsexual woman (female to male) who was driven insane by the early attempt at hormone therapy that went horribly wrong. (I know that sounds snarky but given that DC is rebooting/redoing/restarting/reimagining/rereing their comics again, maybe they're just that desperate. I'm not predicting this, or expecting it, but it wouldn't shock me if it were to happen. Transsexuals are becoming the "it" group to be depicted in the entertainment industry these days, so I can see DC deciding to jump on that bandwagon.)Zen Bard said:
But to bring this back to the realm of likelihood, this will last for only as long as the writers want it to last. And in 4 years, maybe we'll find out that this guy isn't the ACTUAL Joker, but a copy-cat Joker and the REAL Joker is someone else. Maybe it will be that this guy is the Joker on Earth Delta, but not on Earth Prime (or whatever DC calls their main setting, like Marvel has Earth 616), and because of Storyline OS, Joker Delta got transported to Earth Prime. Or something else.
Maybe I'm getting jaded in my old age, but I've come to the conclusion that my own personal fan-fic is just as valid in terms of canon and continuity as the actual published comics themselves, and if I want the Joker to be Jack Napier, Joker will be Jack Napier no matter what the current writers decide his name is. So these sorts of reveals and storylines don't bother me in the least.
tl;dr : "Don't get your undies in a bunch - this too shall pass."
It was more of a character building piece rather than hard truth. The Joker just tells a series of stories to patients from Arkham Asylum, each one being suited to the character he's telling it to. They're all very mentally ill patients who can barely tell what reality is. Even the bits where Gordon finds Joker in Newspaper clippings on the PC are reasonably strongly implied to just be photoshopped in. The whole thing is more the Joker showboating and more of a meta narrative on the character of The Joker being timeless rather than he him self as some mystical being.Dead Metal said:
Yeah the New 52 canon is whacky as all hell. In an attempt to lure new readers in by making things simple, they made things so complex and mad that even hardcore fans have no idea whats going on.
Synders New 52 run is pretty safe to read though I'd say, with afaik the only difference between now and pre 52 being Batgirls recovery from The Killing Joke.