DC Reboots Wonder Woman for 600th Issue

[SpaceMedarotterX]

She was a diplomat for christs sake! the Amazons opened up trade relations with the rest of the world! If you hadn't retconned all that shit and said "Back to the amazon tribes with you" she wouldn't NEED fucking rebooting!

Yes I'm mad, as a comic book fan and the fact that she was perfectly fine until they fucked it up.

And what happens to the characters in her Mythos? what happens to the gods, and to Donna Troy, oh god Donna Troy she's already been retconned 20 billion times what next? Do the past quater century of stories mean nothing? (okay to be far everything BEFORE Crisis on Infinite Earths is pretty suspect)

Will Wonder Woman embody the same spirit she's supposed to repressent in the trinity? (That is Batman is Justice, Superman is Hope, and Wonder Woman is truth)

Lastly it's going to be FUCKING WEIRD to see her jumping around in jeans and a leather jacket when everyone ELSE in the Justice League is rocking tights!

For fucks sake this design looks as lazy as Connor Kents! and his 'Costume' was a T-shirt with an S and Jeans.

Okay... okay I'm done.


... one more for good measure

FUCK!!!

But is she still powerless if tied up by a man? That's a really important weakness for Wonder Woman, it allows her to be strapped to all kinds of phallic objects like missiles hurtling towards cities, at the complete mercy of the evil man that put her there.

I guess this is the point. She hasn't been weak to being bound for like 20 years.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Umm... how the heck are they planning on explaining that SHE is having her entire mythos changed instantly, and not a single other being in the ENTIRE multiverse is going to notice the difference?

Note to DC, stop reconning junk. If you want her to have a new design, more grounded in reality, here is how you do it: Have a story where the Amazons get tragically destroyed by one of the gods or some super villain, force her and the survivors to go to New York. It takes a few more issues, but it ends with Wonder Woman being more grounded on Earth, have a new design, and you avoid having angry fans angry because of a retcon that came out of know where.

 

[Vie]

Its Straczynski so it will be great.

So long as he is physically widths-trained from writing dialogue.


"Sir, we are approaching with Gunports open, as is our custom" - one of his lines.
He's the guys own bloody commander who comes from the same damn culture! He knows this already, phrase it better so your not quite so blatantly babying the audience!

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Is she still into bondage? The superdickery gallery made that very apparent.

 

[anthony87]

Umm... how the heck are they planning on explaining that SHE is having her entire mythos changed instantly, and not a single other being in the ENTIRE multiverse is going to notice the difference?

Note to DC, stop reconning junk. If you want her to have a new design, more grounded in reality, here is how you do it: Have a story where the Amazons get tragically destroyed by one of the gods or some super villain, force her and the survivors to go to New York. It takes a few more issues, but it ends with Wonder Woman being more grounded on Earth, have a new design, and you avoid having angry fans angry because of a retcon that came out of know where.

That's the first thing that came to my mind, I domn't really see how they can retcon a single character so much, backstory and all without affecting the entire DC Universe.

 

[Therumancer]

I'm sure the writing will be good, but I am 100% against this. In my opinion if he wants to do something so radical with the character he should simply create a new character from scratch as opposed to trying to attach the "Wonder Woman" name to it when that refers to a specific character that will arguably no longer exist.

To be honest DC has tried this before, and in general it blows chips. I still remember the whole "Gen 13" reboots they've tried in the past under their Wildstorm imprint, and other similar stunts. I would have hoped they would have learned their lesson by this point, but apparently they have not.

The mystical aspects of Wonder Woman's character are part of the entire concept, as is the fact that like Superman she's sort of an outsider to the rest of the world despite fighting on our behalf. As far as not having been signifigantly changed in 69 years worth of publication history... well that's complete BS. The character was rebooted during "Crisis On Infinite Earths", ascnended to godhood, and then returned as what amounts to a demi-god with a much higher power level.

Now, I suppose I can see the point of saying that they can make the character more identifyable to women and certain readers by making her entirely human, but at the same time that wouldn't be Wonder Woman. It's sort of like rebooting "The Martian Manhunter" as some kid from Southern California who was raised by Martians, or re-defining Superman as being a Yukon trapper.

My point being that you don't mess with iconic characters, with huge histories, and a massive ongoing fanbase. Wonder Woman has managed to hold her own comic book titles for pretty much the entire time she's existed, where legions of other characters, including some of whom were quite prominant, have fallen by the wayside. Taking arguably one of the most successful and established comic characters out there and then re-booting it in hopes of making it MORE popular (perhaps because it's slacking a little) is a mistake, and has pretty much shown to always be a mistake.

When Marvel wanted to play around with some big time rebooting as an experience, they created a whole seperate "Ultimate" universe for it, but kept their main continuity more
or less intact.

At any rate, I doubt anyone will listen to be who matters on the subject, especially since I'm sure the suits already predicted this response, but the bottom line is that I think it's a bad idea.

I've been more a Marvel/Wildstorm guy than a main-universe DC fan, and not a bit follower of Wonder Woman, but I'm enough of a fanboy to be less than pleased about this, especially seeing as it's based on bad information like saying that Wonder Woman has not changed or evolved much in all those years.

Her new costume isn't bad, I don't see changing costumes as a bad thing from time to time, since you can easily go back with that. Rebooting is something else though.

My only real issue with the new costume is to me it seems to include a lot of aspects of the "Wonder Girl" Teen Titans outfit, and I was never especially fond of that. Overall it's okay, but I'm not sure if I'd want to see that as the default look for the long term.

 

[twm1709]

oh boy, this is going to be a continuity catasthrophe...
WW is not some second rate hero. she's one of DC's Trinity. She's got sidekicks all over other books. This will be a hell of a mess

 

[InventiveHero]

I can hardly wait for her to start hanging out in NY coffee shops writing her screenplay on a invisible laptop, or experience the exhilaration of watching her stand in line at Hot Topic for extra straps for her pants.

Thanks DC. Thanks for taking a colossal dump on a great character. Thank you for not believing in an icon and just giving up. F-you J. Michael Straczynski. You f'ed up Spiderman, and now you're out to destroy one of the few female superheros that have ever lasted.

 

[Dexiro]

I feel that her new outfit is much cooler then the classic one.It looks like something someone would actually wear.It they were maybe a bit loony,but just a bit loony.

Depends what time zone it's set in. It looks like it'd suit a 'Prince of Persia'-like setting.

 

[Sonicron]

Diggin' the new threads... but as someone else already correctly pointed out, this is going to screw with large portions of DC in ways I can't begin to describe.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Sounds like they've got an interesting story on their hands and on the plus side JMS plans to bring the story full circle and back into the standard DC timeline, giving both Timelines and the appropriate changes in the character/backstory/universe weight.

And if anyone is capable of doing this, it's JMS.

 

[The Bandit]

You guys are acting like DC or Marvel don't pull this shit every two months.

 

[Kojiro ftt]

I like the new look. Modern but still obviously a super hero.

 

[Styphax]

Everyone here is so much more civil than on CBR or IGN, I love detached fandom.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Didn't she try [http://www.comicvine.com/wonder-woman/29-2048/all-images/108-217010/58457-wonder-woman/105-385735/] the leather jacket before?

But joking aside, this is a good thing, now if only they can help Donna Troy with her idenity...

No kidding. I just got the trade paperback of "Who is Donna Troy" and now they throw this out? It's going to mess up Donna AGAIN!

I like her new outfit, but come on DC. You don't rewrite the origins of Batman or Superman, so why do you feel the need to rewrite Wonder Woman's every few years? And if the Amazons are all going to die, that's going to screw up more than just her storyline. They're going to have to do another Crisis Whatever to set things straight. Unless this is in another universe seperate from everything else.

I liked Wonder Woman's personality being a little "off" when it came to man's world. It was refreshing to have a character that wasn't jaded or using her sex appeal deliberately.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

I rather like the new look, but...

You know what Wonder Woman needs? I mean, really needs?

It's not a cool outfit, it's not an updated backstory, and it's not a more down-to-earth mentality. It's a good rogue gallery.

Look at classic characters like Superman, Spider-man, Batman, The Flash... they've all got awesome rogues. Look at Green Lantern, who had a whole storyline (War of Light) dedicated to setting up a bunch of new Rogues and redefining a bunch of old ones, and it was great. Look at villains like Doc Oc, Lex Luthor, The Joker, Captain ColdThe best thing about the Flash rogues? They have lame names and stupid constumes, and they're still awesome, Norman Osbourne, General Zod, Two-Face, Mirror Master, and many others. The heroes of these stories wouldn't be half as interesting without the villains they fought.

Now look at Wonder Woman. She's got, uhm... Doctor Psycho? Circe? Giganta? Cheetah? Egg fucking Fu? Not a single one of Wonder Woman's villains has reached the level that many of the main Batman and Spider-man villains reach without even trying.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

Didn't she try [http://www.comicvine.com/wonder-woman/29-2048/all-images/108-217010/58457-wonder-woman/105-385735/] the leather jacket before?

But joking aside, this is a good thing, now if only they can help Donna Troy with her idenity...

No kidding. I just got the trade paperback of "Who is Donna Troy" and now they throw this out? It's going to mess up Donna AGAIN!

I like her new outfit, but come on DC. You don't rewrite the origins of Batman or Superman, so why do you feel the need to rewrite Wonder Woman's every few years? And if the Amazons are all going to die, that's going to screw up more than just her storyline. They're going to have to do another Crisis Whatever to set things straight. Unless this is in another universe seperate from everything else.

I liked Wonder Woman's personality being a little "off" when it came to man's world. It was refreshing to have a character that wasn't jaded or using her sex appeal deliberately.

Wait where did you get a copy?

I was looking for that, for years?

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Didn't she try [http://www.comicvine.com/wonder-woman/29-2048/all-images/108-217010/58457-wonder-woman/105-385735/] the leather jacket before?

But joking aside, this is a good thing, now if only they can help Donna Troy with her idenity...

No kidding. I just got the trade paperback of "Who is Donna Troy" and now they throw this out? It's going to mess up Donna AGAIN!

I like her new outfit, but come on DC. You don't rewrite the origins of Batman or Superman, so why do you feel the need to rewrite Wonder Woman's every few years? And if the Amazons are all going to die, that's going to screw up more than just her storyline. They're going to have to do another Crisis Whatever to set things straight. Unless this is in another universe separate from everything else.

I liked Wonder Woman's personality being a little "off" when it came to man's world. It was refreshing to have a character that wasn't jaded or using her sex appeal deliberately.

Wait where did you get a copy?

I was looking for that, for years?

I had to journey to the Amazon homeland, figure out how not to touch the ground there, pass some sort of ritual test to prove I was worthy of their trust, then had to show that I knew the history of the Gods, and finally they said I was worthy to learn Donna's history.

Or I ordered it from Borders.com. I can't remember which.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

And what was JMS's last project?

Writing Ninja Assassin [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/1155-Ninja-Assassin] in 53 hours.

And before that?

One More Day for Spidey.

Consider me unimpressed.