Dead Island Torso Statue: Misogynistic? Stupid? Both? Neither?

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BoredAussieGamer

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Tasteless and idiotic as all hell. I'm not certain about whether or not it's misogynistic, but I am definitely sure it's the former two.
 

mrjoe94

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I get what they're trying to do here and, like some others here I feel that a) it'd get less flak if it was a male torso with a Union Jack Necklace and b) The film community would have far less of a problem with this thing on a whole necause they stopped caring about the "well being of the image of the film industry" long ago.
 

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maninahat said:
It's objectifying taken to it's most extreme
That's actually basically the opposite of what it's doing. It's obviously not meant to titillate, it's meant to shock and disgust. Which it does, hence why people are getting so het up about it. It's taking your usual sexy imagery and parodying it by making it er... un-sexy.

The whole anti-sexism thing was against female characters all being cardboard stereotypes or pure eye candy. This thing doesn't work as eye candy and it has no personality on account of being dead, so it isn't a cardboard stereotype either.
 

Aaron Sylvester

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It's only sexist when the issue is about women, it's always objectification when there is a female involved, and whenever any harm comes to a woman it's always out of misogyny.

I'll leave it at that.

Thoric485 said:
Also:
http://laughingsquid.com/wesker-son-a-resident-evil-6-butcher-shop-featuring-edible-humans/
Yeah, that's plate of severed rubber dicks right there. But there's no titties, so of course nobody's offended.
Case in point, thank you :)
 

Thoric485

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It's low quality, tacky, puerile crap. Just like the vast majority of "Collector's" Editions out there.

Also:

http://laughingsquid.com/wesker-son-a-resident-evil-6-butcher-shop-featuring-edible-humans/

Yeah, that's a plate of severed rubber dicks right there. But there's no titties, so of course nobody's offended.
 

KissmahArceus

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I think it was a bit naive of them or it was a shock thing they hoped would generate buzz, Riptide seems like a quick and cheap semi sequel so this controversy has people talking about the game.
In my opinion, the statue is dumb and in poor taste, it doesn't offend me and I don't mind it being sold but it's not for me, kinda like Dead Island.
 

hermes

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Its not misogynistic. Or sexist either.

But it sure is stupid, and cheaply made. Until they mentioned it on their apology, I didn't realize it was meant to be ZOMBIE torso. Maybe the "zombie bait" tag, or the fact it doesn't look rotten confused me, but it doesn't even seem to be referential to the game at all. At first, I though it just looked like a part of a mannequin.
 

Randlesman

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It's not exactly misogynistic but it is a realy huge misjudgment on Deep Silver's part. DS obviously created this bust thinking it would appeal to their fan base. But did they think their fan base was made up of psychos? I would never even consider owning such a thing , imagine trying to explain or justify that to your Grandmother if she ever seen it!
 

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Randlesman said:
I would never even consider owning such a thing , imagine trying to explain or justify that to your Grandmother if she ever seen it!
I explained she walked into the wrong room. People that are old enough to buy it have no reason to explain things like that. I am not explaining why i own it just as i do not explain i own and read yaoi , have a poster of a halfnude girl getting groped by another girl (shirow masamune poster) or the alchemy gothic poster where a women is standing in front of a mirror that only shows her skeleton.
 

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D Moness said:
Randlesman said:
I would never even consider owning such a thing , imagine trying to explain or justify that to your Grandmother if she ever seen it!
I explained she walked into the wrong room. People that are old enough to buy it have no reason to explain things like that. I am not explaining why i own it just as i do not explain i own and read yaoi , have a poster of a halfnude girl getting groped by another girl (shirow masamune poster) or the alchemy gothic poster where a women is standing in front of a mirror that only shows her skeleton.
Just because I may be old enough to purchase something like that doesn't mean I don't have to justify said purchase. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of my family wouldn't appeciate seeing a bloody, mutilated corpse sitting atop my desk everytime they came in to my room.
 

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Randlesman said:
Just because I may be old enough to purchase something like that doesn't mean I don't have to justify said purchase. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of my family wouldn't appeciate seeing a bloody, mutilated corpse sitting atop my desk everytime they came in to my room.
If i like it i would buy it. If someone else can not deal with my taste it is their problem not mine.
I do not have to justify my own taste to anyone but myself.
 

Yopaz

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No I don't think it's misogynistic, but that's the only positive thing I can say about it. It's ugly and stupid to use my refined vocabulary.
 

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D Moness said:
Randlesman said:
Just because I may be old enough to purchase something like that doesn't mean I don't have to justify said purchase. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of my family wouldn't appeciate seeing a bloody, mutilated corpse sitting atop my desk everytime they came in to my room.
If i like it i would buy it. If someone else can not deal with my taste it is their problem not mine.
I do not have to justify my own taste to anyone but myself.
Sure, if you live alone or with people that aren't offended by the things you own, that's fine, otherwise that's a very selfish stance to take. When I buy things I have to take into account I have younger siblings, it's not exactly appropriate for my to own things like "a poster of a halfnude girl getting groped by another girl" when I live under the same roof as my very young sister, is it?
 

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Rawne1980 said:
That is just downright disgraceful.

That is the most disturbing thing i've ever seen.

I mean, what woman in her right mind would wear a Union Jack bikini?

I know us English folk usually feel like tits but come on.
You, sir, win the thread. *salute*

As a British woman, I would like to express my outrage at the inaccurate way this stature portrays my countrywomen.

triggrhappy94 said:
I don't like softcore mixed with violence. When I want to play games, I'll play games. When I want to watch porn, I'll watch porn. Why does everything have to have a pair of boobs on it.
It's just a small point, but some people do seem to like softcore mixed with violence. Notice how Pirana 3D got a sequel (called Pirana 3DD, in case the point wasn't clear enough).

Personally, not my thing. But the statue is quite fun in a B-movie horror sort of way.
 

Dense_Electric

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Uggghhh.

You have no idea how tired I'm getting of every picture of any part of a woman not covered by layers of clothing being labeled as "sexist," or "misogynistic" (especially when pictures of any part of a man is not considered misandrist, a word that Chrome apparently doesn't recognize, because apparently misandry isn't a real thing or something). Jesus H. Fucking Christ people, it's a female torso. That is what a female torso looks like. Unless you're suggesting the fact that boobs exist sexist (and from experience, the average Escapist user probably would argue that), I don't see how a simple depiction of something - even if it is covered in blood - can be considered sexist. Unless you're insane.

CAPCHTA: basket case

How befitting.
 

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Random berk said:
They sell what people buy, not what their own sexual preudices demnd.
And a lot of people's sexual prejudices guide what they buy. We're not arguing so much that the company is sexist (although it is), but more that that object itself reflects a deep-seated misogyny.

Get it through your heads, people: the stylized, titillating depiction of a violently dismembered woman, tits intact, is the definition of misogyny. If you can look at this and not think, "Hmm, this might at least reflect some pretty fucked up views about women, sexuality, and violence," then I'm sorry, but you really need to take a second look, both at the shitty statue itself and your own absurdly narrow understanding of what constitutes "sexism."
 

HellbirdIV

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Misogynist? Not really. Just because it has boobs on it doesn't make it misogynist. It's just kinda gross, but it'd be equally gross if it was a male half-dressed torso.

peruvianskys said:
Get it through your heads, people: the stylized, titillating depiction of a violently dismembered woman, tits intact, is the definition of misogyny.
No it isn't. Look;

misogyny

mi·sog·y·ny

noun
hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women.


Ya see?

Seriously though, how does that somehow define misogyny? Are you really trying to tell me that boobs being prominent though covered up equals misogyny?

It's targetted marketing - and in this case, intentionally gross because it's a zombie game so gore is part of the attraction.
 

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MetalMagpie said:
It's just a small point, but some people do seem to like softcore mixed with violence. Notice how Pirana 3D got a sequel (called Pirana 3DD, in case the point wasn't clear enough).

Personally, not my thing. But the statue is quite fun in a B-movie horror sort of way.
I am not stalking you i promise >.<
I do wonder where all the outraged people were when that movie was released.

Oh wait any other medium except games when it is something silly/dumb in someone eyes they just ignore it(most of the time). There is a more well Piranha 3DD doesn't make the movie industy look bad overall.
Except when something silly happens in the gaming industry then suddenly it is whraaa this is evil and should be banned.
 

pwnatornr1

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It's really, really stupid.
But i don't really think it's misogynistic.

Plus, havn't we had this discussion several million times already?