All Dead Space did was imitate Carpenter's the Thing. The Thing wasn't scary because the creature took really messed up shapes. The Things horror appeal was meant to be that anyone could be the thing. Not to mention each, and every form the Thing took was different. The very fact that their were "Types" of enemies took away from this. The thing was Visceral, and Psychological. Dead space is a decent shooter, just not a decent Horror game.Nifarious said:Yahtzee's an idiot with one conception of horror. Dead Space does what Carpenter's The Thing does: take the human/animal form and contort it to horrible, unimaginable monstrosities. It's visceral, not 'psychological' (scarequotes emphasized). Shock at violence and physical distortion does wan, but never its abjection.
God the petulance that 'critic' breeds on this site is draining.
Amnesia: The Dark Descent is a "it's coming, it's coming where am I going to hide" gameAndrew_Mac said:Portal 2. scared the shit out of me!
*cough*
No, dead space wasn't scary, and dead space 2 wasn't either. more shocking then scary i thought.
But what games ARE scary? apart from the games that get in your brain (Alan wake) the rest have to resort to the dead space method of, its dead NO ITS NOT RAWR!! I got the the point that i was shooting every corpse on dead space 2, just cos it was instant death for them, instead of waiting for them to get up and attack.
I thought Alan Wake was scary in the "fucking with your head" sorta way.alfawx said:Personally, I don't really think it ever does. I just like it for its gameplay. Honestly, though, I'm surprised you found Alan Wake scary, I was actually more scared of Dead Space. I mean it was a good game, but it was really just running around a forest with silhouettes attacking you. If you want some great psychological horror, try Silent Hill 2 or 3. If you're into action-y horror, try Condemned.No_Remainders said:So, a friend of mine gave me a loan of Dead Space today, and I was wondering when it gets scary.
I mean, I was told that even in the first chapter it would be scary, but so far all I've got are necromorphs occasionally coming out of the walls and then the old cliché of "Oh, it's dead... NO WAIT IT SUDDENLY JUMPS UP AND ATTACKS YOU!"
Seriously? Is this what "scary" is? No. Alan Wake was scary. That did fear in a psychological way and did it well. This? This just tries to throw things at you in a poor attempt at juvenile shock-horror, and it fails.
It's actually bad when a game that is supposed to instil fear ends up becoming predictable to the point of me saying "Well, that necromorph is clearly about to jump up and attack me."
Nifarious said:Yahtzee's an idiot with one conception of horror. Dead Space does what Carpenter's The Thing does: take the human/animal form and contort it to horrible, unimaginable monstrosities. It's visceral, not 'psychological' (scarequotes emphasized). Shock at violence and physical distortion does wan, but never its abjection.
God the petulance that 'critic' breeds on this site is draining.
Jesus fucking Christ, I am terminally sick of people trying to bring out this pathetic bloody argument.idarkphoenixi said:Dead Space WAS scary, just a different type of horror. I know Yahtzee doesn't like it so naturally a lot of people are going to parrot him, but really, I think we'd all be lying if we said we wasn't the least bit drawn into its atmosphere
Honestly its how you play things. Hard mode with only the plasma cutter is scary because you will run out of ammo a lot and if a necro comes at you from too close you have no defense. Except flailing like a mental patient. The decon room is downright terrifying to me and the game kept making me go back though it. When there is a room in a game you don't want to go through again they did a good job. That said the reused that room in DS2 and it didn't scare me at all.No_Remainders said:So, a friend of mine gave me a loan of Dead Space today, and I was wondering when it gets scary.
I mean, I was told that even in the first chapter it would be scary, but so far all I've got are necromorphs occasionally coming out of the walls and then the old cliché of "Oh, it's dead... NO WAIT IT SUDDENLY JUMPS UP AND ATTACKS YOU!"
Seriously? Is this what "scary" is? No. Alan Wake was scary. That did fear in a psychological way and did it well. This? This just tries to throw things at you in a poor attempt at juvenile shock-horror, and it fails.
It's actually bad when a game that is supposed to instil fear ends up becoming predictable to the point of me saying "Well, that necromorph is clearly about to jump up and attack me."
Agreed! Condemned is a fantastic, somewhat underrated, game. But please, please avoid Condemned 2, it's baaadBroady Brio said:Condemned: Criminal Origins.
Try that game.
You know what? That is probably the best damn review of dead space I have ever heardDaystar Clarion said:More Aliens, than Alien.
Exactly. Like i said, apart from these sorts of games. These are the best type of horror games. There's 2 types. THESE and jumpy jumpy shock type games. THESE are the best. I wasn't say that only alan wake does this, hell no. It was just the example that came to mind.octafish said:Amnesia: The Dark Descent is a "it's coming, it's coming where am I going to hide" gameAndrew_Mac said:Portal 2. scared the shit out of me!
*cough*
No, dead space wasn't scary, and dead space 2 wasn't either. more shocking then scary i thought.
But what games ARE scary? apart from the games that get in your brain (Alan wake) the rest have to resort to the dead space method of, its dead NO ITS NOT RAWR!! I got the the point that i was shooting every corpse on dead space 2, just cos it was instant death for them, instead of waiting for them to get up and attack.
Condemned: Criminal Origins is a "Ok so I just killed a couple of hobos with a pipe... wait weren't those mannequins over there before?" game.
and
System Shock 2 is a "Shhhh what was that? Did you hear that? Where is it coming from? Over there? 'Join Usssssssss' Was it up there? 'eeek eeek ook' Run! Run! It's monkeys!" game.
None of these game resort to jump scares, they develop a sense of danger and use audio clues to torment you.
I agree with this. I actually like both Condemned games, but the first one takes the cake for me. It's not, to me, as polished as Dead Space, but I believe that it's the better game.Broady Brio said:Condemned: Criminal Origins.
Try that game.