Dead Teen Sued for Flying Body Parts

[tsb247]

Money never hugs back. Enjoy dying alone after a terrible thoughtless life you stupid ****.

She shouldn't need medical care, she is 58 not 90. If you can be injured by that it is your own damn fault for not taking care of yourself. This whole 'we have to look out for useless people who haven't taken care of themselves' idea needs to be full on or off. How can people be so anti- things like unemployment insurance/welfare but not this stupid woman.

See post 67 on Pg. 2 of this thread.

The amount of energy from an impact of this sort was likely considerable seeing as it was the result of a transfer of energy from a train moving at 70 mph.

To be fair, anyone would have likely sustained serious injury from the impact of a body part in a scenario like this.

 

[Frostwhisper21]

Any sympathy I have for her ends when the money she sues for is above the amount of medical care/lost work opportunity. I highly doubt most people who have traumatic experiences can overcome it with large sums of money for spending on whatever crap. Unless.. it really wasn't traumatic and you just want money.

He might of been a dumbass kid, but his parents still have to pay for the funeral, and I highly doubt they're going to be working very much/well for awhile.

Oh and i'm not too literate on lawsuit law, but if you don't claim your kid as a dependent (he was 18), they can't sue your estate right? If so that's a good lesson right there.

 

[tsb247]

She isn't suing him, she is suing the estate.

She is fully entitled to. I see no reason why she should be forced to be stuck with thousands of dollars worth of medical bills because some retard thought he could outrun a 70 mph train.

I like the way you put this because...

I have been wondering what kind of person could possibly feel sorry for the deceased in this scenario. Seriously? Who walks in front of a speeding train like this? I mean trains aren't exactly subtle. They weigh hundreds to thousands of tons, can be miles long, move at ridiculous speeds, make clacking sounds due to their movement over metal tracks, sound whistles and/or horns when approaching stations or crossings, and have a predictable path.

Even if it was a light rail system (such as a subway train), there are still plenty of indicators that would lead a person to believe that the tracks are not a safe place to be and that a train is on it's way.

In short, what we have here is a woman who was injured as a result of someone's terminal stupidity.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Wow, talk about adding insult to injury. I tell ya, the law is fucked up, and so is that woman.

 

[tsb247]

Any sympathy I have for her ends when the money she sues for is above the amount of medical care/lost work opportunity. I highly doubt most people who have traumatic experiences can overcome it with large sums of money for spending on whatever crap. Unless.. it really wasn't traumatic and you just want money.

He might of been a dumbass kid, but his parents still have to pay for the funeral, and I highly doubt they're going to be working very much/well for awhile.

Oh and i'm not too literate on lawsuit law, but if you don't claim your kid as a dependent (he was 18), they can't sue your estate right? If so that's a good lesson right there.

She is not entitled to the parent's estate, but rather she is only entitled to some of the deceased money in order to pay for her injuries. However, she will likely seek mental damages because of the trauma of being hit with a random flying limb. Either way, the parents are not obligated to pay one cent through my understanding of how this works.

 

[Pipotchi]

And this is why free health care should rule. America's health care system allows this to happen and anyone outside America is going to be confused beyond all belief when they hear about it while Americans will be thinking "well duh, no shit she's suing".

This is an argument of cultures, not of laws methinks.

But even in countries where the Healthcare is free she would still most likely sue for loss of earnings. If shes off work for 2 months or even longer she should be compensated and as he is culpable the 18 year old is liable.

Im going to have to disagree with you there. In most other countries the only thing you would really be able to sue for is emotional damage at best. Everything else will be covered by the governmet, your employer, and insurance companies.

Obviously I cant speak for every country but here in Britain suing for loss of earnings is perfectly common (and a standard part of many lawsuits) your correct in that the persons own insurance might cover it but thats assuming they even have insurance

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Holy Christ! Any respect for the dead!? It would be slightly different if it was suicide, but seriously, accidental death from negligence? I'd just be happy I was still alive myself!

 

[Gigano]

...actually seems fair enough.

If your negligence cause harm/death to others, then you should be liable for that, even if it also happened to cause harm/death to yourself.

Dead teenagers don't often have estates worth suing, so usually cases like this would be about making a claim with some sort of liability insurance he had (for which you'll need to establish that the teenager was liable, if the insurance company denies it).

 

[Worgen]

Sounds fake to me, like one of the stories that always circulate when they attempt to do tort reform and limit peoples ability to sue companies for things.

 

[viranimus]

Snip out of communal courtesy

Spoiler

Apparently I was so correct you couldn't even come up with a decent reply and just started trolling instead though, so I must've been doing something right.

No.

You are still wrong and that is without question. I had chose not to respond with specific reasons because I try not to encourage feeding like that because if your saying things much like what youve said then the likelihood you are going to listen to anyone else trying to correct you seems pretty slim to nil. Plus I had other things to attend to.

But I am more than willing to honor such a request in this instance because one tiny bit of proof renders your entire argument invalid and irrelevant much as I had originally stated.

And obviously I was, by noting that it's just not right to cause the parents who...

just

... lost their son even more grief by dragging them into court and trying to get millions of dollars from them, no matter what the circumstances.


Unless anyone wants to defend the idea that it's alright to cause grief to relatives who....

just

...had a loved one die

You've repeatedly to myself and others made the assertion that its wrong to put the suffering of the woman in front of the grief of the parents yet seemingly you failed to realize that "just" actually equals 2008! Four years is an ample grieving period (`ell, a year is). It is possible your position might have had more validity if this just happened in say November. However, if not 4 years after the event when should someone begin the process of seeking recompense for the injuries and expenses incurred by someone elses actions?

That is the only point that needs to be brought up. If your foundation is cracked then your other positions like wrongly assuming this woman is trying to sue for amounts vastly greater than her medical expenses (IE "millions of dollars") and the rest of the cage rattling thats went on in this thread are just as likely to be flawed and without basis.

Nothing else needs to be said. I cannot stop you from trying to quote me, but I have stated all that needs to be said so you will not be fed any further by me. If you wish to clog this thread up with useless and incorrect information such is your prerogative (as far as I am concerned)but I encourage you to go ahead and stop before you make yourself look any more foolish than you already have.

 

[C2Ultima]

How the hell do you break a wrist and leg from a trivial little fall like that? Assuming you don't have brittle bone disease, and aren't 90 years old, that doesn't sound very likely.

And seriously, who sues a dead body? Selfish fucks. I don't care if he acted recklessly. She could sue him if he was still alive, but since he's in multiple pieces, I doubt he'll be calling his lawyers.

 

[Bassik]

I find it quite shocking to see how many people are defending the woman in this. Has the sue culture in the United States gone so far as to completely shit on common decency and humanity?
A stupid 18 year old kid died, and people blame him for being stupid. Hey, guess what: ALL 18 year olds are stupid.
Can you imagine finding out your child died, then getting sued by a bystander who was hit by flying body parts, and THEN finding out people condemn your son for taking a stupid risk?

You guys need help.

 

[Thyunda]

This 'person' has no concept of compassion, perhaps she should sit and think about if that was her son who had just lost his life; regardless of the situation. Also, his family who have lost a loved one and all the pain they will have to endure. Bones heal, flesh knits back together, but you can't bring lost loved ones back.

Once again it goes to show monetary gain is more important than life.

What gain? The money will cover her medical treatment, because in the States, monetary gain is more important than life.

 

[Felstaff]

I suppose if the woman who was injured was your mother, you'd feel slightly angered that someone's reckless behavior resulted in her suffering a broken wrist, broken leg, and hefty hospital bill.

Imagine getting a phone call; your mom's in hospital, with medical bills piling up; she's just suffered a traumatic experience; hit by an object from a moving train, and suffered a debilitating fall. The number of people who pass off a broken wrist as 'trivial' have no idea just how debilitating an injury like that can be. What about her livelihood? What if her job depended on the use of her hands? What if she lost her job as a result? What if your family lost its only income? What if she never regains full use of her hand/leg? If she were a musician, manual laborer, surgeon, etc., the results would be devastating. Broken bones aren't just throwaway injuries; they have life-altering repercussions a lot of the time.

All of this 'cause some reckless ass decided to run across the train tracks. It's a tragedy, but the deceased is directly responsible for seriously injuring a woman. It was his fault, and his fault entirely, due to his highly dangerous (and ultimately costly) behaviour. He lost his life, but in doing so, several injured a woman's whose only crime was to stand at a platform.

If it were your mom, you'd be angry, not dismissive, of the trauma this woman has been caused due to some reckless jackass who just won a Darwin Award for his stupidity.

 

[Thyunda]

I find it quite shocking to see how many people are defending the woman in this. Has the sue culture in the United States gone so far as to completely shit on common decency and humanity?
A stupid 18 year old kid died, and people blame him for being stupid. Hey, guess what: ALL 18 year olds are stupid.
Can you imagine finding out your child died, then getting sued by a bystander who was hit by flying body parts, and THEN finding out people condemn your son for taking a stupid risk?

You guys need help.

Well, it wouldn't happen here, because we don't get charged obscene amounts of money for healthcare. Did you not stop to think that maybe the woman needed the money? We can't all just say "Well, the kid DID die, so I don't really NEED this treatment..."

Stop being ridiculous. And he's an adult. Not a kid. Your adult son runs in front of a train and BREAKS A WOMAN'S WRIST AND LEG with the consequences of his actions, then you had better expect some god-damn consequences. I don't care if the occupants of the car that rear-ended me were killed, I've busted some pretty important bones, and now I can't bloody move. And in America, I can't afford the treatment.

Your country needs help.

 

[Bluntman1138]

How the hell do you break a wrist and leg from a trivial little fall like that? Assuming you don't have brittle bone disease, and aren't 90 years old, that doesn't sound very likely.
And seriously, who sues a dead body? Selfish fucks.

Depends on the body part. Of course you may not be smart enough to calculate weight and impact velocity. How bad do you think you would be hurt if something weighing 50 pounds going at a velocity of around 60 miles an hour do to you. Even a healthy young person could be seriously messed up. That isnt including any kind of fall damage, that wouldnt be a mere slip and fall. It would be more of a forceful push, again velocity/weight.

Take into account the age of the person and perhaps her medical condition as well. At 58 your bones arent as strong as they used to be. At that point osteroperosis comes into account, where even small slips and falls can cause you to break a hip or wrist.

My mother is 55, she fell, and cracked her hip. She wasnt hit by an object of significant weight going at high velocity.

And you ask who sues ESTATES of people? (NOT bodies, as idiots say)..Well, everyone that is able. Just because you are dead doesnt clear you or any negligence or wrong doing. Just because the CEO's of Enron died and committed suicide, doesnt mean that their victims are just even more screwed.

Perhaps before typing stupid crap, you learn a little about weight and impact velocity. Also a little better understanding of human anotomy and the effects of age on the human body.

And also, if this happened to you, do you think YOU should pay thousands of dollars in medical treatment all because of the actions of some stupid twat. I would think not.

 

[s0p0g]

america, the country of unlimited impossibilities

srsly, stuff like that is almost always coming from overseas, the country in the middle of the north american continent to be specific.

i mean, japanese may think that women who take the lead in a sexual relationship/interaction may turn men gay, but you never hear shit like some crazy old witch sueing a DEAD teen whose effing bodyparts flew through the air from anywhere else (except maybe china, their gouvernment is batshit crazy, but fucking look at what's going there! and then maybe compare...). holy whack-a-moley.
and her only worries are her broken some bone and another broken some bone different.
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......
and courts say she's right??

wtf?! now i cannot decide who is crazier. damn.