Deaf 3 year old's name in sign language not 'appropriate' for school.

maxben

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Therumancer said:
This kind of thing is exactly why I've spent so many times fighting against the left wing. While both major positions in the US are borked, the left wing has an undeserved reputation for being some kind of champion of rights and freedoms, when in reality it's basically in pursuit of a kind of insane facism that denies any kind of common sense. At least with the right wing, even with the bible thumpers, you can see some underlying logic, especially when you consider the origins of the country. Things like this though are just insane, and honestly I kind of saw it coming a long ways off, but nobody really wanted to listen.

The basic story behind this comes down to the simple fact that the left wing holds a very solid "we believe in free speech, as long as it's the free speech to say what we agree with", in the name of "freedom" it's also been trying to shut down avenues of resistance against the authorities and the abillity to speak against social trends they support (hate speech, which can apply to so many things it's insane), and of course dedicated efforts to try and prevent the same kinds of civil disobedience and efforts that acted as a springboard for the left in the 1960s and 70s from being used against them.

When it comes to specifics, what happened was this little thing called the "Columbine Massacre" which while not the only school shooting in history, happens to be the most famous. Like most tradgedies, rather than the actual causes being examined, and the system properly reformed, it became a springboard for politics. The basic agenda the left wing pushed through was to pretty much try and ban all violence and violent expression from school, and demonize the bearing of arms (guns or otherwise) which has been a long standing position from the left. Passing these school policies lets them get the kids while they are young.

Over the years we've watched these policies go from people talking about violence in school, to talking about violence at all, to drawing pictures of weapons, to even wearing T-shirts and such which might have violent material on them. A movie T-shirt for "Clash Of The Titans"? Go home immediatly, the guy is holding a sword!. Over the years I've read a lot of things about this, and truthfully the violence ban has probably done more to keep people from reading comics (violent) on their lunch breaks than the arguement that comics were bad for kids to read ever did. I even remember a case a couple years back where a high schooler was expelled for reading Harry Potter (with one of those concealable book covers), due to violent content, and having the audacity to oppose this stupidity (I don't remember if it was overturned or not).

At any rate, trying to ban deaf kids from making "violent" signs under any circumstances is pretty much par for the course, and really it's because we've let things get this far politically. The kid's name is "Hunter" which implies you know hunting things (which traditionally means killing them) so it's not surprising the name involves an aggressive seeming hand sign... the next step is probably going to be to effectively ban kids from being named things like that, or forcing them to adopt a "school name" if their name is too inherantly aggressive. Give it another couple of years without some opposition to this, and we'll probably have politicians with books of baby names turning "what does your name mean?" from a fun fact to a way of making your life miserable. "Your name is Cassandra? That means Prophet Of Doom, change it or you can't go to school, if you won't go to school your parents go to jail...."

My extreme sentiments on certain subjects aside, I tend to stay in the political middle, swinging a bit towards the right, for a reason, it stays away from this kind of insanity. The Right wing taken to it's extreme is just as bad, but right now it's been the rise of the left that we're dealing with. This kind of crap is pretty much the left wing anti-gun equivilent of an insane right winger trying to pass religious policies, it's just people are blind to the left wing right now and the needs for balance.
Oh give it a break, is this what they call centre in the US that "swings" to the Right? Listen, there are no "two" positions on anything, that is a lie. There is no "The Left" and there is no "The Right", there are many groups, philosophies, and beliefs that get put together almost arbitrarily. For example, what is the real difference between Libertarian (right-wing) or Anarchist (left-wing), or Nazism (right-wing) and Communism (left-wing), and how are Libertarians and Nazis even related considering that they are just as opposed to one another? I was raised a socialist, a harder "left" according to the arbitrary model than the "left" that would support this project, and I would never support this. As for anti-violence, you do not remember the religious "right" throwing a fit and censoring movies, comic books, and going after games?
 

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I think it's time administrators reevaluate the definition of "Zero Tolerance," because if this is where it's going, it's just going to fuck everyone's lives up.
 

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This is terrible. Who'd name their kid "Hunter"? What's wrong with "Jake" or "Steve". I fully agree with the school, and the parents should rename their kid.

Though that sign does look like that cheesy "pew pew" gesture so maybe it's for the best later in life.
 

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Wow I didn't think any level of stupidity could surprise me anymore. I've just been proven wrong. o_0 What the flying fuck is wrong with these people??? You've got to wonder, just how many of them made guns with their fingers when they were kids? Did any of them turn into serial murders? No, but they did turn into reactionary loony toons. And now they want to stop this kid from signing his name in a legally recognized form of communication because they think it looks like a weapon??? WTF??? Does anyone have any Two by Fours handy, I think I need to make a trip to Omaha.
 

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Therumancer said:
This kind of thing is exactly why I've spent so many times fighting against the left wing.
Can i have the source you have that tells us left politicians ensured this happened in this school personally? Sounds like an interesting read. But seriously i think you have tried REALLY hard to make this political when it just isnt. I think also since the majority if the LEFTIST escapist disagrees with this youll find it really isnt anything to do what liberalism. We dont aim to be fascist. Thats a blatant straw man and you should feel ashamed for lying like that about what "we" want. Because we dont want that anymore than the "right" wants a theocracy.

"Right wing holds a very solid "we believe in free speech, as long as it's the free speech to say what God agree with, so drugs, no gays and no non judo-Christians in office"

Remember Mitt Romney wants to censor porn. Rick santorum wanted to BAN it. Lets not point fingers about what party wants to suppress speech (funnily enough only the right politicians can be quoted as demanding censor ship).

We can both massively misrepresent each other. So dont.

Anyway its obviously ridiculous. Any left politician would say so. Any PERSON would say so. What a ridiculous statement that ANYONE wants THIS to happen.
 

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I love how some have used this very much broadly retarded setiment to push their own agenda in this very forum. It's pretty obvious that it's a bunch of paranoid douchebags who are afraid that if kids play with toy guns that they'll end up being Hitler.
 

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People, people, calm down. There's a simple solution that should please everyone.

Cut off the kid's hands. Then he can't make threatening gestures OR hold a gun. Two birds, one stone.

ALL JOKING ASIDE

This is probably a deep, profound misunderstanding. Someone in the school may have said something stupid, or made something up, or was conveying something that someone else said. And, being as it was properly offensive, the family took it offensively.

One thing is for sure; whoever said this is going to get fired so hard there children will be unemployed. Which is kind of cruel, but what can you do?
 

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*Crosses fingers and wiggles hands*

What is... I don't... How can that be inappropriate?

My friends and I used to make finger guns and "shoot" each other all the time in kindergarten. To my knowledge, we grew up to become perfectly normal teenagers.

So, does the kid have to go to a new school or just stop signing his name?
 

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krazykidd said:
So , have we convinced anyone to move to canada yet? We got bacon ,maple syrup free healthcare... And smarter teachers . How bout it?
You had me at Bacon... mmmm bacon :L
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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I remember when I was three me and my friends would throw bark and seeds at each other pretending they were grenades.

And now 20 years later stuff like this happens.
 
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Therumancer said:
This kind of crap is pretty much the left wing anti-gun equivilent of an insane right winger trying to pass religious policies, it's just people are blind to the left wing right now and the needs for balance.
Yes, I'm pretty sure you're the only sane person left and everyone else is some kind of left-wing nut who wants to ban Christmas.

Or maybe pretty much everyone thinks this is incredibly stupid, regardless of politics, as evidenced by basically every post in this topic.
 

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I was honestly expecting it to be a middle finger type thing, this is pathetic.

I guess it looks like he's going to poke somebody but why shape his hands like that?
 

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krazykidd said:
So , have we convinced anyone to move to canada yet? We got bacon ,maple syrup free healthcare... And smarter teachers . How bout it?
Don't forget beaver tails [http://gmacmedia.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/20110825-102002.jpg] and poutine [http://allfavourite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Poutine.jpg]. Though in moderation of course, always in moderation.
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Well that is just stupid.

Deathmageddon said:
I guess I can't name my future son Richard anymore... 'Cause you can't say 'dick' in school!

What the hell is wrong with people?
This gives me an idea

1. Move to us
2. Meet girl
3. Have child
4. Name child fokin awesome lil basterd
5. Enroll him in this school
6. Watch the results