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BonsaiK

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sorry user name taken. said:
BonsaiK said:
sorry user name taken. said:
Sorry...i know we had a topic on that Justin pansy...but where the hell did this come from?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpfPnB79azk&feature=channel

ah...youth clearly has lost all ''innocence'' she sounds like crack head when she sings....also the comments are worrying
...and a record company employee smiles somewhere as they notice the extra traffic coming from this site to their artist's YouTube video courtesy of a "hate thread".

I work in this industry and Ke$ha is no accident. That girl worked her ass off for many years with no money to get where she is now (hence the ironic use of the dollar sign in her name, which predates her fame). Like T-Pain, Kanye West etc, she uses auto-tune because it's trendy, not because she can't sing. As for the image she portrays, try digging a little deeper: http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article7048552.ece

Oh, and YouTube comments are often asinine. Yes, we know.

=__= funny how she still looks like a spoiled brat too me and by using ''auto tune'' doesn't mean ''oh wow she's talented'' .__. (its on every song so far) ...btw Cher did this before with that effect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbXiECmCZ94

at least cher is only using it a bit ((oh if its not displaying its Cher - believe ))
Well, just goes to show how appearances can be deceptive, doesn't it. Ke$ha is anything but a spoiled brat, she used to live even poorer than me, and that's saying a lot.

I'm very well aware of the history of Autotune, much more than most people because I work in the industry and we use it all the time. When you hear that electronicish sound from Autotune, that's from someone who has hit the pitch correction slider all the way up to 100%. They're making it obvious that Autotune is being used - they're using it as a sonic device to give the singing that deliberately artificial, robotic sound (which isn't that different to a vocoder - a device that has been around for decades, probably most commonly associated with Kraftwerk). However, most use of Autotune is more subtle than that, and when used in a more subtle way, with the effect scaled back a bit and also combined with other digital signal processing effects, the singer sounds like they are hitting the right notes and you can't even tell that Autotune is being used. I worked on a session once where we auto-tuned a singer's dud notes, made him listen back to it and even he couldn't tell it was there. You would be amazed how often it is used, and how much music in your collection uses it, across all (that's right - all) genres. When you hear obvious autotune, that's autotune being used as an effect, but you don't need to make it that obvious if all you want to do is fix a singer's dodgy pitching, nor would you want to, because then people start to question if the person can sing. It's when you don't hear autotune, that is when it's often being used to cover up a bad vocal performance!
 

clipse15

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similar.squirrel said:
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Young people have always wanted to emulate musicians with dubious lifestyles. Look at the Rolling Stones, or any number of shitty 1980s metal bands, or even Kurt Cobain.

And for those youths, there was always an older generation claiming that the music and its message was crap.

Ke$a is still godawful, in my opinion. Don't get me wrong.

I did when I was younger (...T_T) but I think its starting to get out of hand just a tad
Not really. We all tend to idealise the past.

Let's see: 1995, you were 15. Number 1 hit of the year was 'Gangsta's Paradise'. A song that seems to glorify gang life. Not exactly the best career choice. Nice Weird Al spoof, though.

Hm. 'Creep' was number three on the list. So maybe you've got a point..
Actually Gangster's Paradise condemned the Gang Life
 

yankeefan19

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MKScorpion said:
I realized something a while ago - Kesha kinda' looks like a drunk Taylor Swift.


Anyways, her music sucks. I'm surprised people actually "want" to be like her.
She's famous with little talent, who wouldn't want that.
isn't it a shame that maybe someone with actual talent got pushed aside because...

''sounding like a crack head , spoiled brat ,whiny voice with trashy looks are what young girls like''
Yes, a shame indeed. I mean, she doesn't even try to sing. I've also listened to her live on youtube and, as "sorry user name taken" said, "she looks like a drunk taylor swift", but she also sounds like a drunk kareoke singer that somehow made it big. Go ahead and listen for yourself:
 

The Diabolical Biz

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Jack and Calumon said:
Sounds like you need confidence friend.


Calumon: One day, silly people will wake up, and then, we will all hug each other! ^^
That last one is glorious and hilarious, but deeply, deeply disturbing. But anyway, cheers for getting a laugh outta me. Team Calumon FTW!

OT: Well, that's really the way music's gone recently, eh...to be honest I don't have a problem with it, as long as it isn't foisted upon me, I mean no one's claiming that it's amazing and lyrical, they just think it's catchy and a 'tune'.