Death Battle: Goku vs Superman

[Lazy Kitty]

Obviously Goku would win.
Not by beating Superman, but because he's having fun.

Both lose because they destroyed the Earth which they want to protect.
Unless someone uses New Namek's dragonballs to bring it back.

Though I doubt either of them would fight to a point where it endangered the planet, just for fun.

 

[cip_raziel]

While I like Goku alot more than Supermand, I was sure from the start that he wouldn't stand a chance against him. Also what's up with Goku forming the Spirit Bomb in space? They said he can't breath in space. But then again we see Vegeta and Napa in space destroying a bug populated planet on their way to Earth.
Also:
Goku: Kaioken!
Superman/Vegeta/Frieza: Kaio-what?
cracks me up everytime; I loved DBZ Abridged from Team4star.

 

[Hagi]

Seeing as Goku seems to take several episodes of screaming to power up his most powerful attacks (at least that's how I recall it from my childhood), I'm going to have to go with Superman on this one.

 

[Oly J]

I agree that Superman would win, however I think Goku wasn't correctly calculated. Goku Buu saga would have been substantially faster than Goku on Snake Way

I agree the figures are questionable at best, but given the absolutely massive gap between them what difference would it make? plus as soon as superman hit the sun it was already over,

I may not agree with the result but the two character's universes aren't exactly compatible, and whether you agree with the numbers or not, I can't think of a better way to calculate their abilities, and if you saw Superman's preview "Superman's power is pretty inconsistant mostly due to writers doing whatever the hell they please", also at the end "Superman is as strong as he needs to be" which pretty much rules out Superman losing,
although I have to say if Goku hadn't HELPED superman by A, destroying the kryptonite or B, shooting him straight into the sun (Goku overpowered Superman right there, you saw it, you can't unsee it) he probably would've had a better chance at least

you may have guessed I'm not a huge fan of Superman, and grew up on DBZ,

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

Goku is stronger than Superman, by a hell of a lot, thing is Superman literally can't die without cheating and Goku would never dishonorably kill an enemy.

Kryptonite is the only factor that matters. With it Goku would win, without it Superman would win, as Goku would never use it the only way he could win is if some should accidentally fall on Superman's head or something.

It's a shame because there are people FAR more powerful than Superman, far smarter, stronger, faster and durable, even in the comics, but they all have more weaknesses than Superman.

Besides if Superman kills Goku they could revive him again using the Dragonballs...

 

[direkiller]

Guys, Superman is invulnerable, and Goku has died....how many times?

Goku's only died twice. A better question would be: How many others in the series has died twice?

Goku
Yamcha (I think)
Vegeta
The entire population of earth.

I think Chaozu is up to 4 deaths. If he died when the entire population of earth died
They sorta stop keeping track after the Namekian Dragon balls/Earth balls 2.0(so no death limit) and him becoming useless.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I don't get this X vs. Superman scenarios. The only thing that stops the guy is Kryptonite. Supposing there's no K around then my vote goes for the Man of Steel. I mean...

There are quite a few things that stop Sups. Magic and Kryptonite come to mind. And punching. Yes. Really hard punches from people way stronger than him. Or from Flash (who is technically stronger than Sups).

I'll give props to the writers for coming up with such contrived scenarios to keep Superman an interesting read, but the fact remains Goku knows no magic, which boils the fight down to the K factor or the possibility that he might out-punch him before Superman gets a chance at laser-melting, sun-throwing or time-turning.

 

[RevRaptor]

Wait didn't Goku become the immortal guardian of the dragon at series end, sleeping on his back in child form.
Goku can't die the Dragon would just bring him back, wouldn't it?

I don't really know who would win but Sups winning just doesn?t feel right. He never had to struggle for his power the way Goku did, it was just given to him. Kinda makes him a privileged twat beating up on the kid that didn't get the silver spoon in my eyes.

 

[cip_raziel]

Also forgot to mention: big dick move on Superman in this fan movie when killing Goku. I mean Goku only wanted a fight and even more, he destroyed the kryptonite that was hurting Superman earlier for a fair fight. Superman could`ve only beat the crap out of Goku and then let him live, or till he would recognize that he is no match for Superman and step back (like how Goku did in the Cell battle when he had no chance against Cell).

 

[Sheen Lantern]

Suprman has died. Serously the comic was called the Death of Superman.

Obviously you've never read it because he didn't die.

 

[Sheen Lantern]

My only real criticism is that they didn't take into account that Goku's power isn't static, but increases over the course of the series. For example, they used a bit from Snake Way to calculate his max speed, which was awesome, but the problem is that that would end up being his max speed at that point in the series. He'd be moving quite a bit faster later on.

Bills stated in Battle Of Gods that Goku's base form wouldn't have been a match for Frieza (This is after the end of DBZ), this shows that Goku's increased power is only because of his transformations and his ability to augment his capabilities with Ki, since these were all measured, the result is correct.

 

[direkiller]

My only real criticism is that they didn't take into account that Goku's power isn't static, but increases over the course of the series. For example, they used a bit from Snake Way to calculate his max speed, which was awesome, but the problem is that that would end up being his max speed at that point in the series. He'd be moving quite a bit faster later on.

Bills stated in Battle Of Gods that Goku's base form wouldn't have been a match for Frieza (This is after the end of DBZ), this shows that Goku's increased power is only because of his transformations and his ability to augment his capabilities with Ki, since these were all measured, the result is correct.

except he can, to the point he is just toying with cell,Frieza without any supersaian.
the criticism is valad

 

[Sheen Lantern]

My only real criticism is that they didn't take into account that Goku's power isn't static, but increases over the course of the series. For example, they used a bit from Snake Way to calculate his max speed, which was awesome, but the problem is that that would end up being his max speed at that point in the series. He'd be moving quite a bit faster later on.

Bills stated in Battle Of Gods that Goku's base form wouldn't have been a match for Frieza (This is after the end of DBZ), this shows that Goku's increased power is only because of his transformations and his ability to augment his capabilities with Ki, since these were all measured, the result is correct.

except he can, to the point he is just toying with cell,Frieza without any supersaian.
the criticism is valad

That's GT....GT isn't canon...

That's like using The Dark Knight Returns as proof why Batman beats Superman, it's just stopid.

 

[direkiller]

My only real criticism is that they didn't take into account that Goku's power isn't static, but increases over the course of the series. For example, they used a bit from Snake Way to calculate his max speed, which was awesome, but the problem is that that would end up being his max speed at that point in the series. He'd be moving quite a bit faster later on.

Bills stated in Battle Of Gods that Goku's base form wouldn't have been a match for Frieza (This is after the end of DBZ), this shows that Goku's increased power is only because of his transformations and his ability to augment his capabilities with Ki, since these were all measured, the result is correct.

except he can, to the point he is just toying with cell,Frieza without any supersaian.
the criticism is valad

That's GT....GT isn't canon...

That's like using The Dark Knight Returns as proof why Batman beats Superman, it's just stopid.

SS4 is in GT and they used that. if you accept one part you accept it all.

also I can just point to the entire buildup to the fight with Frieza where he dose get faster & stronger pre transformation.

 

[Sheen Lantern]

SS4 is in GT and they used that.

That's because SSJ4 was a concept originally created by the creator of Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama, which is how Screwattack defines 'Official' as they said in their Q&A.

 

[Yuuki]

Yes, Goku doesn't stand a chance against Superman.

But those implying that Superman is "as strong as he needs to be" and basically overpowered to the max, there IS one entity that would make an absolute joke out of beating Superman.

This guy:

Mister Mxyzptlk, the name by which he's known, has access to 5th dimensional abilities that basically comes across as magic to us 3rd dimensional beings. And while Superman has faced-off against magical villains before, the difference between them and this guy is...well, this guy has no limits on how much he can instantly alter reality.

So the moment you started a fight between Mxyzptlk and Superman, Mxyzptlk could instantly win by turning Superman into a BANANA and that would be the end of that.

As far as I know he's about as overpowered as any fictional entity could get.

 

[Vausch]

SS4 is in GT and they used that.

That's because SSJ4 was a concept originally created by the creator of Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama, which is how Screwattack defines 'Official' as they said in their Q&A.

Super Saiyan 4 was created and designed by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru. Toriyama was virtually hands-off when it came to GT, only really having involvement in the early stages and initial character designs.

 

[direkiller]

SS4 is in GT and they used that.

That's because SSJ4 was a concept originally created by the creator of Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama, which is how Screwattack defines 'Official' as they said in their Q&A.

Wrong on two things
Akira Toriyma did not create the concept of SS4, Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru did, exclusively for GT.
Also, Akira Toriyma had oversite & was directly involved in GT. It's just as valid as the rest of the animated Dragon ball.
so again
If you accept SS4 as cannon you also have to accept the clip I posted.

So yea, Goku get's stronger and faster outside of transformations.

 

[Sheen Lantern]

SS4 is in GT and they used that.

That's because SSJ4 was a concept originally created by the creator of Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama, which is how Screwattack defines 'Official' as they said in their Q&A.

Wrong on two things
Akira Toriyma did not create the concept of SS4, Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru did, exclusively for GT.
Also, Akira Toriyma had oversite & was directly involved in GT. It's just as valid as the rest of the animated Dragon ball.
so again
If you accept SS4 as cannon you also have to accept the clip I posted.

So yea, Goku get's stronger and faster outside of transformations.

Oh, well apparently they were wrong then.

Still, GT has been completely written out of continuity by BoG so there's not use arguing about it, since it has no place in modern arguments anyway.

 

[Benpasko]

I think Neither of them would put the world in danger. plus there is the fact Goku has martial art training Superman doesn't so I can't see superman landing a punch considering they both have extreme speed.

Superman actually is a trained fighter. He spent time travelling the world before he came to Metropolis and learning how to use his powers and control himself. He might not know how to do fancy stuff, but he can handle himself really well, and has shown evidence of dabbling in at least judo and is a skilled boxer.