I agree Id rather they be sincere or tell people to "deal with it" We have alot of mewling submissive apologies from our devs and pubs and Its actually embarrassing.Ed130 said:Wait, that stupid file-name game was Dead Island?Susan Arendt said:You know, I think that's why I'm as upset as I am. I really, really enjoyed the first Dead Island. I'm quite looking forward to the second one. But between this and the "feminist whore" business from the last game...I'm just really wondering how I'm supposed to feel about the folks making these games.Nile McMorrow said:I agree with you. It does stink of them trying to shift the blame for something they had the full intent of selling to people as they'd rather not shoulder it themselves for the frankly terrible decision they made. Though I doubt a proper apology for their statement as well as the model won't be quite as forthcoming.Susan Arendt said:Ok, I shouldn't have said "can't", rather "don't". It's not the point of the game, any more than filling a room with cheese is the point of Skyrim, although you can do that if you want. Spinning this as "oh, hey, this how people play Dead Island" is a transparent attempt to deflect this clearly bad decision. If they want to apologize, then apologize. And if they don't, then don't. This mewling middle ground is just gross.
On a separate note, filling rooms with cheese in Skyrim is 10x more fun than playing five minutes of Dead Island. I fully understand why the original wasn't successful after playing it for a couple of days at the beginning of the year. I doubt I've got those brain cells back yet...
Well that puts the whole woman's torso model in a slightly more disturbing light.
Oh come off it. You know very well it would have NEVER BEEN a hacked up torso of a man.Aaron Sylvester said:If it was a hacked-up torso of a man we would've seen maybe 1/10th of the current "outrage" over this.
Yeah, very simple this was a publicity stunt, plain and simple.Phasmal said:I think it's pretty stupid and gross, would not buy.
Also, the tits look terrible!
Still, they probably just did this to get attention for the game.
I don't see why not...? I hack n' slash through heaps of torso's of my fellow man all the time in games.Quadocky said:Oh come off it. You know very well it would have NEVER BEEN a hacked up torso of a man.
It's a horror game, so they're shipping a horrific stature with it. I'm not really sure what the controversy here is. Are people just upset because it has boobs? The fact that it's a dismembered torso can't possibly be enough to earn it an eyebrow raise on its own. Not when you can buy any number of model corpses and limbs from costume and horror memorabilia shops.Susan Arendt said:"For the limited run of the Zombie Bait Edition for Europe and Australia, a decision was made to include a gruesome statue of a zombie torso, which was cut up like many of our fans had done to the undead enemies in the original Dead Island."
Except you can't actually do that in Dead Island, you sleazy hack. Don't try and spin this like it was some kind of playful homage to the gameplay.
Oh. Was that the reason it took you a day to notice the ribs?D Moness said:And 2 ribs that you can visibly see on the torso's right side. This took me about a day to notice btw(looks at first glance as part of the bikini).Susan Arendt said:And yes, some zombies were in bikinis and cargo shorts and other vacation gear, but they still looked like decaying corpses. This is the healthiest looking zombie ever...well, except for being, you know, headless.
They absolutely did this to get attention for the game. I'm assuming people still remember the cinematic trailer for the first Dead Island.Phasmal said:I think it's pretty stupid and gross, would not buy.
Also, the tits look terrible!
Still, they probably just did this to get attention for the game.
Silly enough lack of glasses when looking at the picture. When not really focussing on it it just looks like some bit of the top is hanging loose.MetalMagpie said:Oh. Was that the reason it took you a day to notice the ribs?
I kid, I kid. I actually made the same mistake on first glance.D Moness said:Silly enough lack of glasses when looking at the picture. When not really focussing on it it just looks like some bit of the top is hanging loose.MetalMagpie said:Oh. Was that the reason it took you a day to notice the ribs?
Also it wasn't the boobs, i prefer them looking less big and fake.
Personally, I don't find the issue of gender an issue here. In fact, I'd probably be more inclined to buy it if it was a male zombie torso - I somehow imagine it'd take less explaining to anyone who stumbles across it, and people would probably judge me slightly less gravely, as indicated by the outrage the female model has caused.Susan Arendt said:Ok, I have a question for you folks:
Would you buy this? And if so, would you still buy it if it were a male torso?
I'm not judging anyone, I'm genuinely curious.
I know that, and that has already been covered in one other post in this thread. Please feel free to look them up, as I wont be reiterating something I already covered.Klagermeister said:The issue isn't purely for gory reasons.
The game takes place on a high dollar resort island. If you remember the start of your game you will remember that this all went down the night before, and even at night most of the woman were in their bikinis. The torso isn't out of place in respect to the zombies you face in the game. If you haven't played the game then your commentary on the torsos garb is a bit out of place, and misguided from lack of knowledge of them game.The fact that they decided to put the torso in a bikini sexualizes the gratuitous violence it represents.
I think at this point you are reaching a bit far, and trying to spin the situation into something more than it is. The walking dead box set was an example of another gore based items being sold with a horror based media. That may be how you feel about the head, but I myself see it for what it is. A piece of plastic meant to be a interesting item for the horror media fan. Same goes for the torso. The game is a hell of allot more gory than that statue.Also, since The Walking Dead's collector's edition was of a HEAD, that is to say something that can be humanized and sympathized with, a bikini-clad corpse does not show humanity.
I think you really are a bit to hung up on all of this. Makes me think you never played the game at all. See I have no idea if it is an attempt to sexualize the statue. I can tell you that it isn't out of place from the content in the game. See I don't know the mind of the people behind the game. And I'm not going to try to make claims based on opinion, and state them as facts, like you have done. I can tell you though from my prospective that if they are attempting to sexualize the torso some how, it has failed. I like my woman with all their limbs, and head attached. =)And don't try to claim there wasn't an attempt to sexualize it. I could understand the reasoning if there was a head attached, but they chose solely to draw attention to boobs and violence.
And if it had a blue ribbon around its neck, and whistled children songs, then it could be Little Bo Peep. I get it. You don't like the statue. No one is forcing you to buy the torso of gory goodness.If it had clothes, but no head and gore, it'd be fine. That would represent pure gore.
If it had a head, but was still bikini clad and mutilated, it'd be fine. We could say it was just a representation of one of the zombies from the game.
If it was just a bikini-clad torso, but no gore or head, it'd be fine. Then it'd just be adding a sexual twist to Venus de Milo.
It's a serious clusterfuck of all three of those aspects that make it so utterly wrong.
It's not necessarily a zombie corpse, it's just a corpse with "perfect tits". The point is that it was supposed to be based off of Greek statuary and they didn't reference a particular statue so that point was totally lost because of the stupidly abbreviated sculpt. It's a statue of tits with everything else violently torn off or mutilated as if it didn't matter that it existed in the first place, that's the problem, it's a statue of tits as if only tits mattered.Triaed said:And what seems to be the issue?
The dismembered zombie corpse, that it is female, or that it is British?
It is an M rated game, is it not? In a closed box. If you are 7 years old, or a 92 year old granny, you have no business buying this, or Hustler, or downloading porn off the internet.