lol wow never though it could get any stupider... well it's official, every "professional" is terrible at their job.
Deep Silver Apologizes for Mutilated Dead Island Torso
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THANK YOU. Really, I don't see any reason for such a huge controversy. Yes, it's in bad taste in general, and i wouldn't have a plastic mutilated corpse bust on my shelf- but as for the sexism thing or whatever this is about, really!? When I first saw it, the line of thought was "eww, that's ugly. Makes sense though, woman in bikini makes you think tropical paradise, where there happens to be zombies in this game. But I don't want it. Next news article."Lopende Paddo said:
If there was a zombie game about an outbreak and you're a prisoner in a prison where the breakout strikes, and they did this, it would be a dismembered guy in an orange jumpsuit (or whichever color your countries' prisoners generally wear). As this happens in a tropical vacation paradise, the most iconic thing is probably people in swimwear. Since a male beachgoer doesn't have an article of swimwear on their chest, as this isn't the 1920s, all that would be would be a bare male torso, which wouldn't be the type of specificity of message they're trying to get across. A female has a bikini top though- so, when showing a torso only, and you want to get the "people who died in swimwear" message across, you use a female form.
I mean ffs, at least it wasn't an outbreak at a swingers' resort, THAT may have led to an offensive ass bust. ...that is, offensive-ass bust. Not offensive ass-bust. Probably.
Why are they apologising? Religion offends me. Pop music offends. MLP offends me. I dont expect an apology because it doesnt matter what i think. Only what others think. If they love that stuff then great.
Just cos you dont like something doesnt mean you need to be vocal and expect an apology. Its pathetic really. Just ignore it or just dont buy it.
Just cos you dont like something doesnt mean you need to be vocal and expect an apology. Its pathetic really. Just ignore it or just dont buy it.
The sky appears blue because all the other colors are busy bouncing around in the upper atmosphere. =P As for the name. You sure it isn't Dutch? I kid I kid =) But for real. I made that point because it was valid. That statue wasn't out of place. If it had been a arctic zombie game (which I'd love to play) then it would have made no sense. I do agree that the game was good for the most part. But it really fell off in parts, and it was almost game breaking buggy at parts for me.Klagermeister said:
I don't know about the survey. I didn't take part in it so I have no idea what they were asking. Their choice on the bust very well may have come down to cost. It looks pretty simple to mold, and produce. Something more complex may have cost to much for the price point they were trying to hit. But as for the "glorified violence" (which the whole game is full with) I think The Power Station had it right, in one of their songs. "Some like it hot, and some sweat when the heat is on."
I doubt like I said before, they were going for a collectors piece that would sell for real money in the future. But it is art to many. I understand you wanted something else. I wanted a better ending to ME3, you wanted a better item in your collectors edition box, but it seems we both got screwed in that department.
All very good ideas. I would have like to have some of those items as well. The only thing I can think of is to pose a question to the devs, and ask why none of the items you listed above were thought of for the game. It may come down to the fact it would have cost to much. Or it could be they share one brain cell, and the animation department was using it that morning.
The worse one? It may be bad but it is far far far from what I can think of that is a hell of allot worse. =) On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the worse. This only ranks about a 4.
I fell ya man, but the last thing you really need to be worrying about is what a random stranger thinks about your Dead Island collectors edition statue. If they are friends then they know you, and know you are allot sicker for playing the game =P If they are a random stranger, they can get bent. I'm not sure how old you are, but one day you will understand it really is no one else business what you keep in your home, and if they are shallow enough to judge you by a statue from a game, then these are people you will never call friends.
It's a nice little set. If I were buying the collectors I'd still opt for the torso though hehe But if they have the above as an option maybe not all hope is lost for you yet. =)EDIT: See this? I found this on Deep Silver's twitter. I'm glad to know this is still an option.
Kind of tired of these pussy ass devs.
Oh look at this we released this bad ass thing that is probably going to get hated on, but it's just so awesome.
*2 weeks of hate*
Dev apology: Oh we are so sorry for using our time and resources to give you this thing that you aren't entitled to but we thought would be nice for you to have. We apologize for hurting your wittle fweengs, we didn't mean make you piss your pants can call you mama over a piece of mutilated plastic representing a zombie game.
Oh look at this we released this bad ass thing that is probably going to get hated on, but it's just so awesome.
*2 weeks of hate*
Dev apology: Oh we are so sorry for using our time and resources to give you this thing that you aren't entitled to but we thought would be nice for you to have. We apologize for hurting your wittle fweengs, we didn't mean make you piss your pants can call you mama over a piece of mutilated plastic representing a zombie game.
ungrateful idiots
Ah well, that's just what happens in a world with so many differing views and opinions, you're always going to offend one group or another, so this was probably to be expected.
However, I don't think there'd be such a large outcry if they made it a male torso. Of course, it would cut sales on them by over 75%, so there really was no contest. Unfortunately, the developers and the marketing department of deep silver seemed to ignore what was going to happen when they decided that selling a mutilated, big-breasted torso was a good idea.
I'm not sure though, when I saw this I didn't get the outcry. It's just a torso, it's not even pornographic. You see girls in costumes like this every day at the beach, but I'm pretty sure those same girls might be the ones opposing this.
but Andy, don't drag the gamers into it with passing comments on how we do this in-game. In-game, I hack until the body stops moving, I don't pay special attention to destroying the body to the limits of the games physics engines, The zombies just die and I complete the objective. I don't even particularly enjoy zombie games, honestly.
All in all, this seems like a whole lot of controversy over something that either didn't need it or could have been avoided by Deep Silver all sitting down and recatching their common sense.
However, I don't think there'd be such a large outcry if they made it a male torso. Of course, it would cut sales on them by over 75%, so there really was no contest. Unfortunately, the developers and the marketing department of deep silver seemed to ignore what was going to happen when they decided that selling a mutilated, big-breasted torso was a good idea.
I'm not sure though, when I saw this I didn't get the outcry. It's just a torso, it's not even pornographic. You see girls in costumes like this every day at the beach, but I'm pretty sure those same girls might be the ones opposing this.
but Andy, don't drag the gamers into it with passing comments on how we do this in-game. In-game, I hack until the body stops moving, I don't pay special attention to destroying the body to the limits of the games physics engines, The zombies just die and I complete the objective. I don't even particularly enjoy zombie games, honestly.
All in all, this seems like a whole lot of controversy over something that either didn't need it or could have been avoided by Deep Silver all sitting down and recatching their common sense.
It's not just that it's in poor taste. It's just so esoteric that not many people would buy it.Darkbladex96 said:
They had literally dozens of other iconic images/objects/characters to make a collector's edition out of, and they chose one that, without a doubt, VERY few people would even want.
Wouldn't you be pissed off if you waited ages for these editions to come out and saw how... god-awfully ugly it was?
It's like they didn't even use that survey info they gathered.
There were many things that would have been much better to include that more people would have wanted.
This wasn't just a poor PR choice; this was a poor choice in marketing.
So far as I'm concerned the sole reason for this thing's existence is to stealthily sneak it into the fridge of a friend.MetalMagpie said:
If there is any justice, it would fit comfortably into the meat keeper.
I don't really see why this is sexist, one iteration of the article I read elsewhere even plasters the thing with 'misogyny'(Joystiq I think). I just see it as a crappy looking statue. There was a 50% chance of it being female and let's be honest, most people would rather see boobs on their mutilated torso than chest hair. Even more would just buy the regular edition of the game...
This and that Hitman Absolution facebook thing have gotten me to wondering - who signs off on this stuff? Is some high level manager somewhere being fired over this? If you've got the balls to do stuff like this, stick behind it. Don't do it then immediately begin sobbing apologies.
I guess the more plausible option is that it's a new way to create publicity. Do something completely tasteless then retract it and apologize all the while getting more word-of-mouth than any tame commercial would. Still, I prefer the way they disingenuously got attention for Dead Island (1).
I guess the more plausible option is that it's a new way to create publicity. Do something completely tasteless then retract it and apologize all the while getting more word-of-mouth than any tame commercial would. Still, I prefer the way they disingenuously got attention for Dead Island (1).
That depends entirely on what size it is and how easily I can arrange it with my Slaughterhouse Terror Mask that's wearing my Scribblenauts hat. As for gender, either or, I guess -- it'd only really come off the top of my creepy stuff bookshelf for Halloween, and "dismembered torso" is a decent decoration for that either way.Susan Arendt said:
If I had played dead island and if I had really enjoyed it, and was very excited for this game, then yes. I would buy it, both male or female. it would go right next to my Connor statue from the AC3 Collectors edition. as it stands if i found this as a standalone statue maybe, because I'm a huge zombie fan, and the walking dead is quite literally the only tv show I still watch these days. To me I'm not really thinking of it as a human torso the missing arms and exposed ribs jump out at me and make me think "zombie" before anything else.Susan Arendt said:
I honestly think that the choice was made to go with a female torso because of the addition of a bikini top. Were it a male torso with swim trunks, it'd look naked and would probably spark more offense.
I suppose you can always just give the torso a shirt, but I don't think that'd quite strike the resort island chord that kind of makes a lot of the game.
I suppose you can always just give the torso a shirt, but I don't think that'd quite strike the resort island chord that kind of makes a lot of the game.
Why would this be offensive? A bad idea? Yes! A dismembered torso doesn't look that good in your average living room. That's why I wouldn't buy that edition. Lost money for the devs, but having unsold boxes seems to be enough punishment for such stupidity. Or is it offensive just because it's gruesome? Then any horror movie publisher should get down on their knees and beg for mercy! Maybe people got offended because they felt a market target for JUST a pair of boobs and a crotch. Well, that bleeding stub of a neck is enough of a turn off to solve that problem. Or hey, maybe they fear that some moron might get a weird fetish and raid his local graveyard with a machete and a Union Jack bikini in his pocket. All in all, I think this is just a marketing strategy. I for one have not played the first game (I find zombies boring.. I prefer killing living polygons) and this is the first time I hear about the second. Hmm.. maybe I should try this too.
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It's worth noting that the user did not state whether or not the PS1 game offer would be scrapped. We'll update when we find out more.
Today an Amazon user has apologized for having included a copy of Final Fantasy IX in his PS2 selling offer at THIS link. "I deeply apologize for any offense or damages caused by the association of a PS1 title with the PS2. For now, I want to reiterate to the FF community, fans and Sony media industry how deeply sorry I am, and that I am committed to making sure this will never happen again."
It's worth noting that the user did not state whether or not the PS1 game offer would be scrapped. We'll update when we find out more.