Delaware Politician Readies for California SCOTUS Win

SelectivelyEvil13

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cocoro67 said:
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Postal 2 is popular? Maybe in her sick, depraved household[/b]
You have just proved my point, thank you good sir.
Remember though that in Postal 2 you can play the game without killing anyone, Infact at the end if your kill count is 0 you get the title "Jesus".
If they are angry about the violence in Postal 2, Why in the hell are they doing it in the first place? They must be sick, sick bastards if they actually doing the pissing on people and killing them....
That is what I find especially curious, as I highly doubt that any of those citing this one game have ever run across it in person. Their claims could very well stem from purposeful exposure or hyperbole, at least, that is how it could easily be perceived. Either:
1. You witnessed someone playing the game
1a. You bought the game for someone, thus ignoring the warnings already on the box and using the medium as a scapegoat for your inept parenting.
1b. You somehow ran across this one game which, in it of itself, is rather suspicious concerning motives. If nobody really knows of this game, why are you digging it up to make a point over a previously nonexistent threat?
2. You have played the game... And then you urinated on a deceased virtual schoolgirl. Huh.
3. You are making shit up.

Why am I not instilled with confidence in these people? Oh yes, they are attempting to demonize an entire entertainment medium because of one, single game. This logic would be like comparing all movies to Saw or all public broadcasting shows to possibly the Jersey Shore.
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The way I read it is that they mean popular in terms of these ongoing arguments. The game isn't popular, its violence is with the anti-gaming crowd.
Indeed, but that wording is bothersome because it implies that Postal 2 is a prevalent case when video game content is concerned, and yet, it is quite a rarity that few have even heard of. The percentage of games that allow urination on corpses is infinitesimal compared to those that do not, and yet it is being treated as a catholic element to video games. Not that I am disagreeing with your point, I am simply faulting her. ;)
 

huigho1215

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I didn't vote for her, and I'll happily vote her out of office. And what violence is there in portal? never played it but isn't it mainly a puzzle game?
 

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/activate bader grammar for the example

I dont need no videogame to know how to cut people up with a gun. It aint even my dominant source of daily violence anyway.

I got Television (aka America's favorite babysitter) for that; the the news being saturated with people dead in a large variety of means and reasons, each more spectacular than the last, plus the average violent tv shows/series (love Dexter).
ANd newspaper.
Books.
Many boardgames.
School (ya got your history classes with wars and all that stuff? And the Bullies)
Tabletop RPGS.
Movies. Even those made for kids are violent.
Heck, just talking and watching other people i can see some violent stuff (like my neighbors that always hit eachother with beer bottles).
Politics too... because of all the killing in the middle-east.
But one if my favorite is the Internets. Want to see some really violent, really weird stuff? Go see on the internets. Oh, and if you beat up your fiend, or just hate their guts, make sure to make a video of it and put it on youtube! Its totally the cool thing to do these days.

/deactivate bader grammar

Videogames are one of the source of violence most easily controlled by the parents. You can buy it or not. Discuss it with your kid, educate them about it, how they see it and feel about it.
Its much harder to control the content of the news network and the TV in general, because violence/sex/etc is pretty much omnipresent in a form or another.
 

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P.S. Under the events of Columbine, a large group of parents blamed DOOM and Marilin Manson for 'corrupting' the two youths that were behind the event. A very little amount fingers points towards the parents, of who's house basement was where the two created bombs, plans, and stockpiled guns. A scapegoat was created because nobody wants to admit that in America's society, the way parents raise their kids as apposed to 50 years ago is going very wrong.
EXACTLY!I think it's the equivalent of news outlets saying very little on physical school bullying, but if a computer was involved in some way they are quick to discuss how "do we handle the cyber-bullying?" How do we regulate what these kids are doing. Instead of figuring out why these kids are horrible people in the first place we worry about how to regulate the internet, or games or music or all the other things that don't make you a horrible person.

I would think that if they wanted to help children they would focus a little more on education, American children....aren't that smart..and i'm an American. We are pretty low ranked for education.
 

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Flamma Man said:
How much you bet that when the law is turned down, there will be a bunch of politicians, like Yee, who'll say something along the lines of "This is a sad day in America."

If that happens, I will laugh.
I'll laugh with you, man.
 

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Arawn.Chernobog said:
Land of the Free, hey america?

Free to express one's own opinion via any medium as an individual right, hey america?

ZEIG HEIL ZE ZUPREMME KOURT! ZEIG HEIL AMERIKA!
Thank you for using an undecided court case and one politician's statement as an opportunity to expose yourself as either a)someone who is totally ignorant of how the U.S. government works, b)a troll, or c)both.
 

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Don't they know that banning video games will have a large impact on the econmy? It could cause WWIII as we imperialize to gain more money and fix our economy, and then the world will be taken over by giant monkey gods! Lo, the end of all beings is coming, The Governator has doomed us all! nooooooo!
 

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Iron Lightning said:
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"I don't believe it is protected speech when you are showing someone, a young adult, how to beat up a homeless person," she added.
What the hell does she mean by that? Is beating up a homeless person somehow more complicated than beating up any other person? In addition: how am I going to learn to beat someone up from a videogame? Pressing B for melee attack does not work in real life.

I still find it hard to fathom that these witless morons are using Postal 2 to say that all videogames should be restricted. That's like reading Twilight and then saying all books are pornography aimed at teenage girls. The fact that such vindictive, willfully-ignorant individuals can get elected is truly amazing.
Wait, the B button doesn't work in fights? So THAT's why I always lose!
 

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Canid117 said:
I believe that my state was one of the nine in support of the EMA so I'm probably safe unless a law like this goes federal in which case I take back everything bad I ever said about Canada and start looking at house prices.
Don't start counting your chickens just yet, mate. Harper's wannabe Republican government here is giving us the same butt fucking, but video games haven't been scapegoated as much here, at that.
 

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These issues get more and more frightening, minute by minute. What the hell is wrong with the US, anymore? I get that people are lazy bastards, generally unwilling to, or scared to, parent their children. So give them up for adoption, goddammit. Don't blame your inability to parent on a medium you're using to babysit. Be informed about what your children are involved in.
 

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Lord_Panzer said:
zHellas said:
Lord_Panzer said:
Well-intentioned slight aside,
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
They almost voted in O'Donnel, okay?
Once again, on behalf of all of Delaware, I'd like to apologize for all the stupid that has been coming out of this state recently...
 

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I'm getting really tired of hearing about um... silly... things going on in my state. Can't we just slip back into relative obscurity, please?

Bleh, I don't even feel like discussing the issue. It's just too simple: Be a parent and pay attention to what your kid is doing.
 

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Honestly, if this goes through, I have the feeling that we will be earing from Anonymous a whole bunch.
 

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I wish I could ask these people, "Okay, justify the stuff I see on T.V. It's just as bad, and sometimes even worse." Come on, I want to hear their excuse.

COME ON! SPEAK UP IDIOTS!
 

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Andy Chalk said:
And although state-level courts have ruled unanimously on numerous occasions that such laws are in violation of the First Amendment, Keeley disagrees. "I don't believe it is protected speech when you are showing someone, a young adult, how to beat up a homeless person," she added.
Great, let's also censor out history books to remove all wars, throw out famous paintings with violent actions in them, get rid of any music that seems angry, and burn half of the fucking Bible (which is the most sold violent and sexually explicit book around). Why? Because kids obviously need protecting from reality to the point that the sheltering hurts them socially. That's the perfect way to ensure the future of the next generation.

How about instead we just have parents judge what is right for their childern and do their job as parents rather than playing the blame game?

And yes, it is protected speech even if you don't agree with it. Why is this? Because the status of protected speech was invented so that you wouldn't be in trouble when someone, especially the government, disagreed with you ! How has this not been brought up yet? We are looking at the very definition of what the First Amendment was set up to protect here, and that protected status is now being debated in a court?! You want to argue that the founding fathers didn't see this medium being protected back then? YOU ARE EXACTLY THE ENEMY THEY THOUGHT OF WHEN THEY WROTE THAT! What you are doing is effectively the thing they feared enough to form rules the country was meant to follow as long as it existed.

You argue that videogames harm the new generation? I think it's a government that has seperated itself from the people in order to maintain power, that argues over a form of entertainment while the Southwest is on the verge of drying up, that splits apart over an issue of Health Care while the economy is in horrible distress due to a multitude of practices in the business world that should never have been set in motion, or one that concerns itself over the popularity of its members while ignore the problems of the common people. Hell, you argue that the founding fathers never foresaw a future of videogames as a medium. What about the fact that they never foresaw the internet or a broader educational system, both of which renders their established method of voting for you archaic.

How about you change it so that I can vote directly in order to throw all of you out of office and start again with a governing system made up of less privaleged individuals who understand that if they don't do what they are elected to, represent us and solve problems this country faces, we can replace them and they will go back to being affected by all the decisions made by their replacements because the status of being voted out will be similar to being fired rather than earning them prestige?

That's something I want to see the Supreme Court look at now as it uses my money to operate.