Designing Nintendo's next console
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I agree with you there. there real achivements where really the nes snes and n64. and gamecube jus cause there where some pretty dayum good games for it.fenrizz said:
as for the wii...well so far its failing for the teen people but the familys love it so I guess its a success...I like the wii =D
:EDIT: actually I shouldnt say teen. I should say for the hardcore gamers who love M rated games like gears 1 and 2 and halo. and many others =)
Being that the last gen of consuls had dvd players in, its silly of nintendo not to put one in, its already capable of it anyway, as there is a software hack you can use on SD cards that make it work on DvD, of course, I'd rather not potentially fuck with my Wii incase it dies and I have voided the Warrenty, but it proves that Nintendo could have done it, for negligable or no additional cost.Quadtrix said:
As I don't have a DvD player on my tv (I have to use my PC + monitor to watch them) I'd have quite liked the Wii to have one built in. Ultimately it also gives a bit more selling power, which in turn promotes more game devs to make games for it (increasing the chance of an actual good one)
I'm not saying its the sole innovation they should have, but they simply have no reason not to include it.
There's still the problem of Blu-Ray being the king this generation as far as DVDs go. If Nintendo wished the keep the cost of their system at a minimum, they'd no doubt choose HD DVDs over Blu-Ray. Since movies in the HD DVD format are rapidly declining, I would think it'd be a waste of time.WolfLordAndy said:
We're going to make copious amounts of monies, you and I. Between this and the Geiger Counter attachment, we;ll be disgustingly rich.Erana said:
Also why is this not on sale? I can get:
But not this?
Pretty sure bumping doesn't work here unless you quote someone. Also I would just like to see more support for their online segment. There is nothing wrong with the service per se, but they could offer additional services and lag fixes and whatnot.Quadtrix said:
- last gen (Wii) hardware with a small power bump
- one full resolution step behind the others
- no proper network gaming, no matchmaking, no voice comms, because competition is an ugly word and in fact the console's target market would prefer to always receive first price and a gold star for showing up. Also, everyone on the internet is a pedo and will download your toddler right out of your living room if given the chance. No such things as parental responsibility, parental oversight, parental controls or laws of physics exist.
- last gen (Wii) compatibility, but only if you buy a second set of peripherals for no particular reason
- less storage than on an average mobile phone at the time
In other words, they'll just use the same recipe they designed Wii with back in the day, and roll in cash some more.
- one full resolution step behind the others
- no proper network gaming, no matchmaking, no voice comms, because competition is an ugly word and in fact the console's target market would prefer to always receive first price and a gold star for showing up. Also, everyone on the internet is a pedo and will download your toddler right out of your living room if given the chance. No such things as parental responsibility, parental oversight, parental controls or laws of physics exist.
- last gen (Wii) compatibility, but only if you buy a second set of peripherals for no particular reason
- less storage than on an average mobile phone at the time
In other words, they'll just use the same recipe they designed Wii with back in the day, and roll in cash some more.
I'd say a graphics upgrade. maybe something between PS2 and Xbox 360. Also a 1TB hard drive is only $90 so putting a hard drive in wouldn't be to hard
Id like more buttons on the controller and a gamecube controller or something similar out of the box. I do want to play some games with a controller. (ie. im worried how upcoming tatsunoko vs capcom is going to work)
Upgrade the Store to allow downloads of new titles.
Make games cheaper.. I thought the object of the Wii being a step behind the other consoles was so that games would be cheaper to make.. those saving have not been passed on to the consumer.
Make more games for the fans that have kept you afloat during the hard times.
Upgrade the Store to allow downloads of new titles.
Make games cheaper.. I thought the object of the Wii being a step behind the other consoles was so that games would be cheaper to make.. those saving have not been passed on to the consumer.
Make more games for the fans that have kept you afloat during the hard times.
Damn, just $90? That's insane. Although,aAs much as the idea of a 1 TB hard drive gets me drooling, it's still an unnecessary luxury. 10-20 GB is all a Wii HD would really need, especially if they improve on the SD card channel and have the feature on the next Wii from the start.pompom8volt said:
Well, let's look at what the competition has planned. Both Microsoft and Sony are planning an incremental update to their existing consoles that mimics the Wii's motion control system; no major replacement for either system has been announced. This means trouble for Nintendo, because while everyone else can just buy an add-on for their existing systems, Wii owners will have to buy a whole new system to get the hardware upgrades they're most interested in -- a hard drive and better graphics.
So here's my idea: They release a new Wii, say, the WiiX, that has a better graphics chip and a hard drive, along with more refined motion controls (I've heard people complain that the Wii's are too clumsy and random for serious gameplay, hence all the rail-shooters, games that use a small set of vague motions, and games that don't use the motion controls at all).
But what they do is, they keep the same low price that the Wii has, and design the architecture to be forward compatible -- so even games designed for the higher-end graphics of the WiiX will still play on the Wii, just with the graphic detail turned down. This is what PCs have been doing for ages, and it's one of their major selling points as a game platform; we're at a point where consoles can reasonably play that game too, as it were. Plus, you can almost bet Sony and Microsoft are thinking about doing the same thing when it comes to updating their systems a few years down the line.
Possible slogan: "Way more space. Bigger detail. For a price that's just as Wii."
So here's my idea: They release a new Wii, say, the WiiX, that has a better graphics chip and a hard drive, along with more refined motion controls (I've heard people complain that the Wii's are too clumsy and random for serious gameplay, hence all the rail-shooters, games that use a small set of vague motions, and games that don't use the motion controls at all).
But what they do is, they keep the same low price that the Wii has, and design the architecture to be forward compatible -- so even games designed for the higher-end graphics of the WiiX will still play on the Wii, just with the graphic detail turned down. This is what PCs have been doing for ages, and it's one of their major selling points as a game platform; we're at a point where consoles can reasonably play that game too, as it were. Plus, you can almost bet Sony and Microsoft are thinking about doing the same thing when it comes to updating their systems a few years down the line.
Possible slogan: "Way more space. Bigger detail. For a price that's just as Wii."
You don't say... (|/GodsOneMistake said:
Judging by the popularity of it, I'd say keep on going with what they've got, and just find ways of making the gaming more fun and importantly, more intuitive. Keep prices low and games emphasising on fun. There has to be one console out there that people of all ages can enjoy
EDIT: Of course, technically all consoles should be enjoyable for all ages, its just that some of them seem to have ended up with very distinct games. There's no reason why the Wii couldn't have very violent games or the PS3 family oriented ones, its just the culture has grown up around them has shaped game developer policy, I think. Price may come into it, if you're a parent buying a console for young children you'll want one which is reasonably cheap.