Detroit Man Discovers Recipe For Stronger, Lighter Steel

WouldYouKindly

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TheMadJack said:
That's the kind of stories we don't see/hear enough of!

What I hope this guy did with the professor is, after successfully doing his thing, go to him, smirk and tell him close to his ear, almost a whisper: pwned.

That brings me to this: elitist arseholes like this professor. He didn't doubt, he just plainly said: "Oh but that's impossible Sonny." and probably laughed in his face. Now, THAT is why so many, oh so many, things are so eff'ed up today. So many people with their minds closed or up their you-know-where.

I bow to Gary Cola. Congrats to you sir.
The professor is just a person who knows or rather knew what was supposed to work.

It's the scientific community which basically runs on the premise of repeat it or it didn't happen. Basically, it's skepticism, not elitism.

If he was truly close minded he'd have still refused to believe even with proof in front of him. Now that he has proof, he seeks to understand why it's possible. It's all standard science.
 

Vrach

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Holy fuck, respect, that's one awesome story :D (and actually really impactful on our world!)

Oh and a lot of geniuses don't have college degrees. Those teach you how to do something that's already been done, which isn't always necessary to create something new (and certainly isn't the only way to learn it, nor even the best way, just the most traditionally easy one).
 

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Chase Yojimbo said:
I suppose it is moreso that Coca Cola would see the word "Cola" and say "I wants!". Sortuv like how whenever someone sais "I have a bad feeling about this" 12 cents goes to George Lucas. Though you may be right anyways, but what is wrong with 'Flash Bainite'?
Coca-Cola isn't in the Steel Industry.
Similar/partial copyright names can used. Back in the day, we had "Apple" computers, but also the "Apple" recording company. (the two went head to head in the late 70s/early 80s in court. It was ruled that as long as Apple didn't break into the music industry, they could both use the name. The irony is that Apple Records went bankrupt before they could actually sue Apple Computers for doing exactly that with the iPod)

A similar ruling could, and probably would be issued. Besides, Coca-Cola only owns that specific name. They don't own just the part "cola" because it describes an entire classification of drinks (there is generic "cola" soda available).

And on second note. No, the Collective Information of which you speak is a great way to learn, but people who only add to it with the same ideas get no where. It is only with Innovations such as this that Humanity can get anywhere. Hence is why I believe an Individual can only ever learn from their own mistakes and not anothers. I think Gary Cola's accomplishment is a great example of what I speak about.
Innovation comes from both personal genius and from studying existing knowledge.
I can provide examples of either.
 

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"Impossible"? "Shouldn't have worked"?
Uh-oh, someone quickly, call Walter Bishop! It looks the law of physics have started breaking down on our side. Before you know it, we'll be seeing bald men in Trilby's everywhere...
 

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Theres a lot of times when folks in the sciences aren't receptive to new ideas.

The new solar cells i'm fabricating this week have some great potential. We'll see what happens. The university patent office is certainly drooling over it.
 

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WouldYouKindly said:
TheMadJack said:
That's the kind of stories we don't see/hear enough of!

What I hope this guy did with the professor is, after successfully doing his thing, go to him, smirk and tell him close to his ear, almost a whisper: pwned.

That brings me to this: elitist arseholes like this professor. He didn't doubt, he just plainly said: "Oh but that's impossible Sonny." and probably laughed in his face. Now, THAT is why so many, oh so many, things are so eff'ed up today. So many people with their minds closed or up their you-know-where.

I bow to Gary Cola. Congrats to you sir.
The professor is just a person who knows or rather knew what was supposed to work.

It's the scientific community which basically runs on the premise of repeat it or it didn't happen. Basically, it's skepticism, not elitism.

If he was truly close minded he'd have still refused to believe even with proof in front of him. Now that he has proof, he seeks to understand why it's possible. It's all standard science.
I suspect it was less "It isn't likely this is real" and more "It isn't likely you, a person without as much education as myself, discovered this." That's what people usually take issue with.
 

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Well, I hope this new type of steel has tons of practical applications, and then these guys need to patent it quick, and it might provide a good jumpstart for the American Economy
 

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JacobShaftoe said:
Earnest Cavalli said:
The moral of this story? College degrees are for chumps (assuming you can simultaneously revolutionize the field of materials science and global production capacity).
Yeah, never mind all the advances made my university graduates, one win by the uneducated inspired genius clearly proves all education wrong. Now, to find a brilliant amateur surgeon...
It was a joke, hence the stuff in brackets...

OT: Pretty cool, I can only imagine the massive economy boost this could give, plus might even allow the US to make spaceships and jump-start the space program again!
 

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Lt. Vinciti said:
Alright.

We know how to make stronger steel....

Time to rewrite the rules of War

Melee weapons only...

On Topic:
Hey +1 Faith in Humanity gained!
I fucking wish. Think how better off we would be if the Geneva Conventions only allowed melee combat. No more friendly fire, that's for fucking sure.
 

TheMadJack

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WouldYouKindly said:
TheMadJack said:
That's the kind of stories we don't see/hear enough of!

What I hope this guy did with the professor is, after successfully doing his thing, go to him, smirk and tell him close to his ear, almost a whisper: pwned.

That brings me to this: elitist arseholes like this professor. He didn't doubt, he just plainly said: "Oh but that's impossible Sonny." and probably laughed in his face. Now, THAT is why so many, oh so many, things are so eff'ed up today. So many people with their minds closed or up their you-know-where.

I bow to Gary Cola. Congrats to you sir.
The professor is just a person who knows or rather knew what was supposed to work.

It's the scientific community which basically runs on the premise of repeat it or it didn't happen. Basically, it's skepticism, not elitism.

If he was truly close minded he'd have still refused to believe even with proof in front of him. Now that he has proof, he seeks to understand why it's possible. It's all standard science.
I'm sorry but dissect it with a bomb or with a scalpel, the guy said: "It is impossible." and "It shouldn't work."

I'll agree that the scientist changed his stance and it's for the better, but you have to be closed-minded when a complete explanation is given to dismiss it on the basis that you've never heard of that, think it's impossible or, in your knowledge, that "behavior" shouldn't work/happen.

Skepticism is -wanted- and -needed-. You can't just take anyone's word for granted, but making claims like "this or that is impossible" is pedantic when you have a knowledgeable enough fellow with all the science of his claim. You may be, and should be, doubtful, but dismissive? Never.

There's ALWAYS someone more intelligent, more strong, more inventive, more... Nothing has been fully done and everything is not known and invented. There's always a better way, as hard as some people might believe otherwise.

Again, that scientist was "intelligent" enough, or curious enough, or just plain wanting to humiliate Mr Cola, we'll never know, but he went there and saw.
 

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So, I guy with no Expeirence in metalergy discovers a method to make even stronger steel, and in under 10 seconds...

 

Gaiseric

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Nice. I like reading things like this.

This is what they should make the RoboCop statue out of.
 

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fix-the-spade said:
Awesome.

Sadly, it's lost on me, my first thoughts on reading about this were how it could be used to make steel bike frames competitive in weight with aluminium without compromising the lateral rigidy cyclists get so uppity about...
Don't worry sir, this is the very first thing that snapped to my mind as well! Hmm... now only if they could make a steel DH frame that's as light as an aluminium one...
 

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Wolfram01 said:
I've been working in a mettalurgy lab the last 2 years... I've seen things, man.

EDIT: Ok talked to a couple people and checked out their website. Basically it looks like they're only doing this on steel under 10mm thick... which is garbage and useless for so many applications. Essentially they're just doing a surface hardening, except it's so thin it works right through the entire thickness. We heat treat steel up to 3.5" thick (~100mm), so this process simply can not work.
So is this article just sensationalism then? If I understood what you said, then this process only works on a small amount of applications.
 

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Flash Bainite, REALLY! It sounds like a intergalatic super hero.

Hes stronger then steel but as light as a cloud, FLASH BAINIIIIIIIIITE!

But seriously this is going to lead to some amazing things, faster cars, bigger building maybe even improved body armour in effect saving lives. Lighter AND stronger, the guys a genius and hes got a preaty funky name himself maybe he'll be the next Tesla.
 

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The Cola Process.

I can't express how awesome that is. And as a Dwarf Fortress player, I also cannot express how giddy this makes me feel. 7% stronger steel? FUCK YES.