Deus Ex: HR Team is Working on Tomb Raider's Multiplayer

[Andy Shandy]

You know what I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic about this.

I thought that multiplayer in Mass Effect 3 was a ridiculously stupid idea that would've taken away from the single-player experience but it turned out to be quite the opposite.

 

[Metalrocks]

Games with multiplayer sale more.

but who the fuck buys thease games because of the multiplayer?

you would be amazed how many people want games with MP. many people refuse to buy a game because of lack of MP or coop. they think that MP gives the game more replayability then the SP.
i have read throughout the net that some dint even get deus ex HR because it had no MP. this usually shows that kiddies these days dont want to play by them selfs anymore.

 

[m19]

I don't see how multiplayer is a detriment to singleplayer. Nothing to suggest they didn't make the singleplayer game they wanted to make. Regardless of how good or bad multiplayer will be, it's its own thing.

 

[Vault101]

you would be amazed how many people want games with MP. many people refuse to buy a game because of lack of MP or coop. they think that MP gives the game more replayability then the SP.
i have read throughout the net that some dint even get deus ex HR because it had no MP. this usually shows that kiddies these days dont want to play by them selfs anymore.

are there honestly that many [strike/]stupid[/S] people in existance?..honestly? if they are like that why should devs bother with single player at all if all thease "people" want to do is shoot each other *grumble*

 

[Vault101]

snip.

whats porting got to do with it? multi platform isnt always abad thing, particually for agame like tomb raider which isnt exactly an RTS or MMO

 

[Nihlus2]

Well... could be worse I suppose, they could be asked to develop a Tomb Raider MMO.

Still... I lament the loss of Eidos Montreal's significance for Square.

If you are asked to develop multiplayer (outsourced no less), for a game. You are not excactly going places.

 

[Sacman]

Jesus, what a waste of the DX:HR team.

Heh, here's a good idea, get a team most famous for a game that prided itself on not having multiplayer to make the multiplayer component of a game that shouldn't have multiplayer to begin with...<.<

Jesus, what a waste of the DX:HR team.

I woulda thought those guys would be doing better with their time...

Like off the top of my head...

...Another Deus Ex game?

Now, this is pure speculation, but...

Square Enix owns both studios, it's possible that the new Tomb Raider is using the Deus Ex: HR engine. Since most likely the sequel to Deus Ex:HR will include MP, they took the portion of the team that developed the MP part of the next Deus Ex and put it in Tomb Raider as well.

Well actually, don;t quote me, but if I remember correctly, Deus Ex used the same engine as Tomb Raider Underworld and Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light... or at least a modified version... and chances are they're sticking with the same engine for the new Tomb Raider too...<.<

I remember reading it somewhere in here [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/deus-ex-human-revolution-e3-2010-trailer]... a long time ago...<.<

 

[teh_gunslinger]

What a waste of talent.

 

[Baresark]

I have zero interest in this game. The more that comes out about it, the less interested I am. I was also really turned off by the PC Gamer preview. I typically do not play MP either. The only time I do is when a game is made with MP in mind (L4D, Battlefield, things like that) and even then, I mostly devote time to my SP game collection.

That said, this game could have some cool MP. I wouldn't mind a scavenger hunt mode where people are racing each other to find treasure. That could be cool. They could inhibit each other with traps or special abilities that are character specific, or have abilities that give them an edge in some situation. Perhaps Lara can run a little faster while someone else can climb faster or jump a bit further. You could use this same idea and have animal hunts. The match creator (because we all know it will be P2P because that works awesome all the time, right) can define a certain weapon to be used and a specific animal. You can even have some of the people play as other predatory animals in the competition. You then have the prey spawn in a random area that is specifically hard to get to so the characters have to use some of those aforementioned special movement abilities to get to the prey faster (hopefully) than others will.

All of this is, in my mind, very specific MP that would make sense in the context of the game. It's a Tomb Raider game so scavenger hunts and animal hunting makes a lot of sense. All of that said, I'm sure it will be some tacked on contrived MP where people are killing each other. I mean, I never played the Uncharted MP, but I recall reading it was just like Deathmatch bullshit.

 

[Dr Jones]

OH MY GOD HOW COULD THEY DO THAT, THAT'S SO FUCKING STUPID! *ragerageragerage*

In all seriousness, I think people should maybe just wait and see how it turns out. Sure, the prospect of MP in a Lara Croft game can be a bit scary, but we've actually not seen anything from it, so it's a bit rash to bash it like this.

 

[Roxas1359]

Next up multiplayer in Kingdom Hearts HD and Kingdom Hearts 3! They surly never don...oh wait. *looks at 358/2 Days*
But then again that wasn't as bad as how the Bioshock 2 multiplayer was.
Seriously I'm not liking the time that companies are putting into multiplayer when most people would rather play a good single player campaign. It's getting harder to find games that don't have multiplayer tacked on.

 

[Leonbelmont64]

Honestly I have a ton of friends from work that only play multiplayer games including mmos eve, planetside 2 tor, arma 2, battlefield and cod half of them only bought uncharted 3 and gears 3 because they have multiplayer and competitive pvp. A few of them also believe that pvp or multiplayer requires a to more skill then single player. Now looking at that mind set and how ea has been throwing multiplayer into everything and now square is finally seeing the reason to is why this is happening more casual and competitive players will play this game just cause it has multiplayer and it will honestly sell more that's the point even if its a first for the team they will learn adapt and continue to make better multiplayer for the future sadly this is where the industry is headed and you can thank 2 things for it one casuals 2 cod cause honestly it started this. You can complain as much as you want pc gamers as I know it's more the fact there are more casual and competitive gamers in the world then hard core and therefore catering to both sides yields the most profit.

 

[Legion]

Tombe Raiders getting multiplayer?

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuugggghhhhhhhh *rolls eyes*

This.

My interest in the game has more or less dropped to zero.

I dont think you need to call it JUST yet many good single player games had still had the (annoying) addition of multiplayer with (theoretically) no impact on their single player, I don't see why this game nessicaryly has to be the exception (and I'm still optimistic)

its just the very presance of multipalyer and EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME seemingly having it that makes me roll my eyes

It's not so much that the game couldn't be good, it's that every flaw it has will in my mind be something they could gave fixed had they spent the time and resources working on that rather then the unnecessary multiplayer.

Granted, if the game looks decent then I may end up giving it a chance, but considering that I am not that excited by what I have seen so far (too many mechanics that I know will irritate me) the addition of something I have zero interest in such as multiplayer is only going to put me off more.

But then again that wasn't as bad as how the Bioshock 2 multiplayer was.

The sad thing is that it actually had some very good ideas, but they didn't get some of the more basic aspects right.

Their version of Capture the flag with one team defending a little sister and the other team trying to steal her was an excellent idea, especially when the defending team had a Big Daddy as well. They then screwed it up by making it so she gets reset upon a capture which completely broke the atmosphere of the game.

Finding the vials of ADAM for extra XP was a very nice touch as well, as was hacking turrets and turning ammo machines into traps.

But there were so many other problems, especially lag and the weapon balancing.

 

[Woodsey]

Jesus, what a waste of the DX:HR team.

I woulda thought those guys would be doing better with their time...

Like off the top of my head...

...Another Deus Ex game?

Thief 4 is still in the works. And I doubt they're using much of the actual team, anyway. They're not going to need any writers, art directors, or... well, anything really other than a few guys, it would seem.

 

[Sir Ryan Ward]

Maybe it's just too early in the morning, but I first interpreted the article header as if the Human Resources department at Eidos has decided to do game production. Time for more coffee...

 

[shrekfan246]

Tombe Raiders getting multiplayer?

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuugggghhhhhhhh *rolls eyes*

This.

My interest in the game has more or less dropped to zero.

I dont think you need to call it JUST yet many good single player games had still had the (annoying) addition of multiplayer with (theoretically) no impact on their single player, I don't see why this game nessicaryly has to be the exception (and I'm still optimistic)

its just the very presance of multipalyer and EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME seemingly having it that makes me roll my eyes

It's not so much that the game couldn't be good, it's that every flaw it has will in my mind be something they could gave fixed had they spent the time and resources working on that rather then the unnecessary multiplayer.

Granted, if the game looks decent then I may end up giving it a chance, but considering that I am not that excited by what I have seen so far (too many mechanics that I know will irritate me) the addition of something I have zero interest in such as multiplayer is only going to put me off more.

Every flaw present within the single-player would be there regardless of the news contained within this article.

Because a completely different team is working on the multi-player.

So no resources are being redirected.

OT: Eh. I wasn't really interested in this game in the first place, and multi-player isn't something that sells me because I rarely, if ever, play it. It would be interesting to see what they do, though, given the style of game that Tomb Raider is. Unless they just go for Uncharted-style multi-player, which is the easy, boring way out.

 

[deathbydeath]

Jesus, what a waste of the DX:HR team.

I woulda thought those guys would be doing better with their time...

Like off the top of my head...

...Another Deus Ex game?

Nah, I'd wait until Warren Spector to get on board with that before they try again.

Also: Why is everybody complaining about Tomb Raider getting a multiplayer mode? I'm willing to say any franchise can be adapted into good multiplayer provided the devs know what they're doing, and the DXHR guys know what the fuck they're doing. They took a classic gem that had yet to be truly replicated and did a pretty damn good job at it. I still like DX2 more, but that's just me being pretentious about philosophical debates. HR is a better game.

Admittedly I would rather have them work on Thief 4, as that game really needs to come out.

 

[Bantis]

snip.

whats porting got to do with it? multi platform isnt always abad thing, particually for agame like tomb raider which isnt exactly an RTS or MMO

Oh, I don't think it's a bad thing. I think it can be great. I just meant, to me, their recent efforts on Tomb Raider games seemed more to do with putting a well known franchise on as many platforms as possible for name recognition rather than putting as many good games on those platforms. It gives me the impression that their focus is to scattered. If the product isn't selling how they would like I don't see the answer in this case (given that they've already tried this multiple times) as rebooting via going bigger and wider but rather restarting with a smaller, more concentrated effort which could cost less to make and then rebuild from there once you've re-established things.

I wasn't questioning the porting of games. I was questioning the wide porting of these specific last few games in this series. And this is coming from a Tomb Raider fan btw so I want them to succeed. I just think they need to be realistic. A lot has happened since the first Tomb Raider came out. It might never be the juggernaut it once was and I think the planning, development and expectations need to account for that.

 

[silverhawk100]

So it's going to have completely unnecessary boss fights in the middle of the multiplayer?

 

[Baldry]

This just doesn't make sense, why? Tomb raiders more of a singleplayer experience, I don't want to play it with other humans! Also it makes me worry about the sort of singleplayer game they're making, if it can be easily ported to multiplayer it can't be that innovative.