Deus Ex- reject augmention

[kidd25]

excuse me if this been posted but i searched and did not find anything.

watch and discuss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4W5cTunKsg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGzpzlvf0Gs&feature=player_embedded

how did you feel wacthing the first, and then the second. would you have done it? would you have waited to see? which you would be augmented or not?

 

[ultrachicken]

The first trailer made me suspicious, because the acting couldn't have been worse.

The second trailer was genuinely unsettling once they got to the bits about the drugs. Before that, I was rolling my eyes. I don't subscribe to the "humans are perfect the way we are because we're human" circular logic pattern.

No, I wouldn't get augmentations. The drug addiction and the fact that a corrupt corporation holds the power to remove the use of my limbs at any time are deal breakers.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

Heh, I don't trust things like the first one, and I wouldn't get augmentations anyway. I mean, it's replacing parts of yourself with hardware. If a wire's wrong in a computer, it lights on fire, if too high a voltage is sent to a hair drier, it explodes. Now, imagine your eye or your arm or, god help you, your heart doing that. But, in the end, Human Revolution is a prequel. In the end, the corporations win.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I can just see it now, the limbs coming in a box labeled with EA and a small text underneath "Requires monthly subscription to Origin"

I would have augments, but they would be jail broken, and then I would get banned from the Escapist for telling people how to jailbreak their limbs, and sucking dick on corner to buy the drugs... but hell I will finally get my robodong.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

The first one had me thinking; that lass gets super augmented hands to play piano, the dad gets an augmented arm to throw like a pro. Doesn't that defeat the point of the individual talents? It's kinda scary how it's temptingly marketed as not only a new limb but also a new talent...

No, I wouldn't get augmentations. The drug addiction and the fact that a corrupt corporation holds the power to remove the use of my limbs at any time are deal breakers.

Hell to the addiction, you can work past that. It's the whole 'take the drugs or your body rejects the augmentations as if they were parasites' that kinda breaks the deal for me It's one problem to be addicted, it's another to need it to keep your augmentations.

The second video was genuinely unsettling.

 

[Zhukov]

If the augmentations worked and were available, I would happily use 'em. I would not care about the 'don't play god' or 'sacrificing your humanity' business.

If everything said in the second video were true, then no, obviously I wouldn't use them. That did not look pleasant.

 

[varulfic]

The second one seemed like fear mongering and propaganda. Yeah, you're gonna need more than fast cuts and electric guitars to convince me. Now give me my robot limbs!

 

[ks1234]

So yeah, augmentation like that is like my wet dream... I'm always striving to be the biggest, strongest, smartest, and fastest... then I was all like "damn, wet dream denied" when I watched the second video... but would I undergo augmentaion if there wasn't any hidden evil/agenda behind it? Hell yes!

 

[hazabaza1]

Well.
Looks like I won't be using Augs in HR.

 

[Coldie]

Hell to the addiction, you can work past that. It's the whole 'take the drugs or your body rejects the augmentations as if they were parasites' that kinda breaks the deal for me It's one problem to be addicted, it's another to need it to keep your augmentations.

The second video was genuinely unsettling.

It's also a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

If you don't take the drug, your body will reject it, with the central nervous system isolating itself from the augmentation, rendering it useless.

If you do take the drug to suppress the rejection and preserve the nerve-aug connection, you compromise your immune system and the nervous system's maintenance mechanisms. That makes you vulnerable, among other things, to the JC Virus [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JC_virus] (which pretty much everyone is already infected with), which causes Progressive Multifocal Leukoencephalopathy. There is no known cure.

 

[thenamelessloser]

I think some hidden group are behind purity first. The video was obviously based on fear not reason. The people in charge don't want augmentations for the masses but just for special elite soldiers I think. This explains why most of the people in the original Deus ex who have augmentations were or are professional soldiers. So, I take the whole purity first as silly propaganda trying to exploit fear to keep people repressed! Or it could be some other intent, but I have a feeling that the purity first stuff in the game wasn't started by common people who are anti augmentation but is secretly funded by some elitist group or individual for some purpose or another. Note I played the first two Deus Ex games and only heard about the third one from videos online and from message boards. Not even sure how much of a role the purity first group really has in the game.

But I think it would also make sense if the (spoilers for the first two Deus Ex games)

Spoiler

Templers are behind it. From the first deus ex, we aren't told much about them besides the fact they hoard gold and were bankers. WE have no idea what their ideology is. However, in the second game, there is a group that calls themselves Templers and are highly against nano augmentation. It would make sense to em that maybe the templers were anti augmentation all along and thus somehow Saman found out about it in the second game and decide to begin the templers anew in order to protect humanity from being augmentated to the point where they are no longer human.

I also liked both trailers because they wre both so badly done. The first one for beign like such a cheesy commercial you would see on TV. The second one for being some kind of really poorly executed documentary about something that someone would put on youtube and use certain lame techniques to try to make more of a point where there is none.

I'm hoping that the story of Deus Ex human revolution is much more sophisticated than these pseudo documentaries or commercials which I think were badly done on purpose in order to show a corporation releasing a corny commercial about its product and some random weirdos on the net making an equally silly video emphasizing the evils of the new technology. I did find the second one very fun to watch but if I saw a such documentary in real life about something else I would assume it some ratings grabber on youtube or some infotainment documentary used to raise controversy and ratings for a news station.

 

[Phishfood]

Hell to the addiction, you can work past that. It's the whole 'take the drugs or your body rejects the augmentations as if they were parasites' that kinda breaks the deal for me It's one problem to be addicted, it's another to need it to keep your augmentations.

The second video was genuinely unsettling.

It's also a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

If you don't take the drug, your body will reject it, with the central nervous system isolating itself from the augmentation, rendering it useless.

If you do take the drug to suppress the rejection and preserve the nerve-aug connection, you compromise your immune system and the nervous system's maintenance mechanisms. That makes you vulnerable, among other things, to the JC Virus [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JC_virus] (which pretty much everyone is already infected with), which causes Progressive Multifocal Leukoencephalopathy. There is no known cure.

Unsettling...
Although, I would suggest that once we are at the stage of easily grafting nerves to silicon we would likely have a cure?

Not that it matters. Immuno-suppresants are never a good thing.

 

[Neonit]

huh, i hope they will make the story interesting. by for example making both "groups" seem good/bad. im tired of most games featuring "the good guys" and "the bad guys".


oh yeah, and giving super limbs to drug addicts doesnt seem..... smart. i mean, they can just go outside and rampage through the streets.


waiting to see how it will turn out

 

[Cuacuani]

Immuno-suppresants are never a good thing.

Unless you have an autoimmune disease. Then I imagine they'd be pretty handy.

 

[ultrachicken]

I'm hoping that the story of Deus Ex human revolution is much more sophisticated than these pseudo documentaries or commercials which I think were badly done on purpose in order to show a corporation releasing a corny commercial about its product and some random weirdos on the net making an equally silly video emphasizing the evils of the new technology. I did find the second one very fun to watch but if I saw a documentary in real life I would assume it some ratings grabber on youtube or some infotainment documentary used to raise controversy and ratings for a news station.

Don't you think that the way that there is no clear cut good guy shows sophisticated story telling? They could have gone the more traditional cyberpunk route and just showed Sarif Industries as a company owned by the devil, but instead they layered both sides with faults. You can't quite tell who to trust, which is fairly realistic. Most organizations don't lay out a sheet with filled "pros" and "cons" columns for you to look at.

 

[MercurySteam]

You should really check out what they've done to the website: http://sarifindustries.com/

Just about every page if affected and it's quite unsettling.

 

[thenamelessloser]

I'm hoping that the story of Deus Ex human revolution is much more sophisticated than these pseudo documentaries or commercials which I think were badly done on purpose in order to show a corporation releasing a corny commercial about its product and some random weirdos on the net making an equally silly video emphasizing the evils of the new technology. I did find the second one very fun to watch but if I saw a documentary in real life I would assume it some ratings grabber on youtube or some infotainment documentary used to raise controversy and ratings for a news station.

Don't you think that the way that there is no clear cut good guy shows sophisticated story telling? They could have gone the more traditional cyberpunk route and just showed Sarif Industries as a company owned by the devil, but instead they layered both sides with faults. You can't quite tell who to trust, which is fairly realistic. Most organizations don't lay out a sheet with filled "pros" and "cons" columns for you to look at.

Good point actually, but still find both trailers unconvincing of their view points... But I guess that is like real life and the fact both sides do such a bad job makes it hard to tell who is making the better points like in real life. A lot of propaganda is pretty damn terrible unless you agree with it already. =D like I said, the trailers were both silly but a coporate commercial and some random short documentary would be just as silly in real life. I'm just saying I want the main game to be more than a commercial quality or some cheesy documentary quality.

I do suppose that two simplistic silly short videos together add up to something a bit more sophisticated is true, just hope the game goes far and beyond. but at at the same time has all the crazy conspiracies like the other Deus Ex games. Can't be too realistic now in a video game. =) (yes I realize I'm being contradictory, but this is deus ex, best off being confused and a bit crazy. Gets one in the proper mindset . )

 

[ethan22122]

I would'nt have an augmentation unless I absolutely needed it (eg. losing a limb). I would rather get a gadget like a pip-boy or something.

 

[yayforgiveaway]

I'd go open source. Reverse engineering ftw.